General :: Objects Not Visible In Navigation Pane For Power Users
May 29, 2015
We are encountering a problem that started with Access 2007 and continues in 2010 and 2013. We are using a network system.mdw file with mdb databases and the security seems to be working with one exception while running in Access 2007, 2010 and 2013 but runs fine in Access 2003. We have some power users who are allowed to create/modify objects. The power users and Admins have a unhide command button that displays the database window in Access 2003 and displays the Navigation pane in 2007-13. The problem is that when the Navigation pane is shown there are no objects displayed. These are not hidden or system objects and display in Access 2003 database window properly for the power users.
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Oct 30, 2013
I'd like to count the number of objects in my DB to check if I'm running into the 32,768 object limit. I'm experiencing unusual and disconcerting behavior, and all the normal corruption repair techniques aren't working. I've imported all the objects into a new database container, decompiled, compact & repair, and nothing works until the I delete some objects (forms, reports, queries, etc).
New objects created don't appear in the navigation pane until I close and re-open. Also, changing a query type from select to append doesn't result in the icon changing in the navigation pane.Code seems to run fine and everything else appears OK, but I really can't continue development until this issue is resolved. I fear continued development may lead to further corruption.after 20 years, this application has grown, I use a variety of techniques to get the size of the application. Currently:
1. 201,200 lines of code in 910 modules, reports and forms.
2. 544 forms
3. 328 reports
4. 3,617 queries (yes, I know, but it's so much work)
5. 450 tables (about half are linked)
I always thought, without thinking too deeply, that the number of objects in the spec refers to the number of reports, forms, modules, etc. But, now I'm wondering, do they also mean all the controls on the forms, and or the fields in the tables? What do they mean by objects.
I used Point Limited's translation modules recently to extract all the label and caption text for a French language translation project and it pulled out something like 21,000 individual controls, and, combined with this issue, I'm beginning to wonder...
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Mar 11, 2013
I use Access 2007.I have a db split in FE(forms, queries, vbcode) & BE(tables only).I want users not to be able to view or explore the tables, the queries, the form design and details, in both Ends.Unfortunately, even disabling via VB code the menus, the db window, the tool & status bars, they appear and are accessible to the users (it only works in a non-split db, turned to an accde).
How can I disable any view on forms, queries, vbcode and tables details and data to users, in both FE and BE and only allow them to add data through specific form?
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Jul 22, 2014
Is it possible to access database objects without using the nav pane? I'd like to keep the nav pane turned off on a shared database so that the regular users don't get confused, but I have need to edit various objects. I could just turn it on and off as needed but I was hoping there was another way to access the objects.
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Feb 17, 2013
My Access 2007 database with one main table. There are associated queries and reports that sort under that table when I have tables and related views checked. The problem I am seeing is some clearly related objects fall under unrelated objects and not with the table.
Short of using a custom group and sorting them manually?
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Jul 14, 2014
I've inherited an Access 2000 database that is used to enter and print various types of data. I am using Access 2010 and when I open it I am in a forms view for the main user interface. I want to see and/or edit the objects that make up this database but I can't find a way to see them. The navigation pane is not visible and using F11 doesn't open it. How can I see the database objects?
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Jan 1, 2014
I have three access 2010 tables, each standing alone with their own navigation pane, etc. Is there a way that I can put all 3 tables into one navigation pane? What I need is to build a Switchboard where each of the 3 tables are my choices .
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Dec 9, 2012
I tried to modified access 2010 database. But I open it the Navigation Pane is grey out (disable) and I cannot to see any database object. How to make the Navigation Pane active?
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Jan 9, 2014
I want to keep the navigation pane open for use by the users, but I want it locked so that the users can't click on the top menu and change the pane's display from All Access objects to any of the other choices.
LockNavigationPane set to Yes is not the solution as this only prevents people adding, deleting and moving objects (such as tables/querys/forms).
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Aug 20, 2012
Is there a way to programmatically HIDE the Navigation pane?
Something in the line of :
Application.Currentdb.Options("NavPane").Display = False
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Jun 27, 2012
Can the navigation pane be set so it is automatically hidden?
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Aug 12, 2015
I need to lock down my DB so that the users cannot open the navigation pane. The DB opens with an AutoExec that puts them on a Swithboard form.
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Jun 25, 2012
Is there a way to minimize the navigation pane and the upper tabs on start up? I have several big forms that don't seem to fit unless these are minimized.
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Nov 29, 2012
Whenever I create a new query or report, it automatically becomes Hidden, and the only way that I can see it (still as hidden) is to close out of Access and then go back in.
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Sep 3, 2013
I've got a database that is locked down for all users with forms so they can navigate the system and the navigation pane is hidden. On a couple of the forms there are buttons to print the form and when that button is clicked it unhides the navigation pane...???
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Feb 6, 2014
I understand the principle of renaming the above of using the navigation pane and selecting the object but what is happening in my case is that when I select the specific table/query I wish to rename, the text is highlighted as per normal but the instant I move the cursor onto that cell that whole panel highlights in red and then reverts back to the original state of just the text in that panel (now highlighted).
I do not know if this is related to the problem but I have a text box with the "code" =Count([tblEntries].[CageNo]).
This was working perfectly okay but both this and the renaming appeared to happen about the same time. I have opened other Access files and the same re the renaming occurs. I have secure security running and do not think this could be the problem but anything is possible.
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Oct 15, 2014
I use custom categories in the navigation pane to make finding the right objects easier (duh) but now I have quite a lot of custom categories and they are stuck in the order they were created in.
I would like to rearrange them into some logical order (maybe alphabetical, maybe custom) so i can find the categories quicker.
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Apr 19, 2013
I am now working on this new database. I would like to make a calculation so that I could derive a value called eGFR from a patient's serum creatinine. This is a test of kidney function.I am having the following problems.
a. Modules are not appearing in the Navigation Pane of the Access 2007. When I press 'Object Types' in the Navigation Pane I get all object types such as tables, queries, forms, reports, macros but not modules. I know there are modules as I have written lots of vba code.
b. I have written the following code within this Function. The following is the code.
Public Function eGFR(creatinine, Gender, Age) As Single
If IsNull(Age) Or IsNull(creatinine) Then
eGFR = 0
Else
[code]....
This code is working fine in another database, however when I try to upload a query in the current database that has this function in one of the fields, I get an error saying the the function eGFR does not exit.
I have inserted the function into one of the modules that I have managed to enter.
Do I need to deposit the code elsewhere? How do I access Modules from the Navigation Pane?
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Jun 2, 2015
i have built an application , all i have is one main form and every action take place inside it. Before making it as .accde file for code protection, i want to hide table pane, navigation ribbon, the Main form Tab. i.e only Main form should open like a applicaiton and not inside access as a tab.
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Apr 20, 2013
I'm building a web application that mimics the keyboard navigation of Microsoft Access.
What is the keyboard shortcut that will move the focus from the navigation pane on the left to the content area on the right? I can't figure out how to do this in MS Access without using the mouse.
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Apr 21, 2014
I have inherited forms, some of which somehow lock the Navigation Pane. For those that do I cannot find how the Nav Pane is locked. Is it a form property? If so which? "acCmdWindowHide" is not used in the program.
This issue prevents me from viewing form properties or Form VBA when such an open form is switched to the Design View.
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Nov 5, 2013
In Office 365 and Access 2013, when I right click on the top of the Navigation Pane and choose the Navigation Options I get a screen with NO Categories and NO Groups. I see the "Add" buttons on the bottom but they are grayed out.
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Feb 4, 2014
Using A2010, for some reason, whenever I created a new Access Object and save it, the Navigation Pane doesn't automatically update to list the new object. Same thing for if I delete an object. This only started happening about halfway into the process of creating this database. For now, I've been compacting and repairing the database to "refresh" the file and then the Navigation pane updates.
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Aug 27, 2013
How do I get back to this? Somehow I changed it, now my objects are "shortcuts", and my original grouping disappeared. I tried to manually put it back to the way it was with the same names but now it thinks its "custom". Can I somehow just switch it back to its original view?
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Jan 25, 2008
Does anyone have a problem renaming tables, queries, etc in the Navigation Pane? The Pane is set to view by list. If I right-click on an object then click on Rename, the focus just moves to another object. If I use the shortcut menu key on the keyboard then type "m" for rename, the inside of the orange highlighted object turns blue briefly to show you can type in it, then immediately reverts to orange. I don't know if this is a problem with my PC (HP laptop running Vista) or with Access.
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Jul 15, 2015
I use DoCmd.ShowToolbar "Ribbon" acToolbarNo (or acToolbarYes) depending on a value in a table which I have shown certain "trusted" users how to change.
But is it possible to do something similar with the Navigation Pane?
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