General :: Records Being Deleted In A Related Table When Not Supposed To
Jun 13, 2014
I am losing records in one table when I delete from another, i.e., I do want to delete records in one, but the related records in the other are also being deleted. This was not happening until I did a recent up date.I created a database in Access 2002 about 8 years ago and my client has been using it successfully ever since. I have occasionally made updates and enhancements. They have over the years upgraded and are now on Office 2010. I'm still using Access 2002.
I recently (3 weeks ago) added a new feature and installed the new code. The database is split, code and data. The new feature was working well, but suddenly they were losing records and they cannot operate until I have it resolved. I spent 2 hours today in their office and could not work out why it was happening.
I have a straight forward client table with names and addresses and some other information. I have another table which links together Clients, Counsellors and Supervisors and works out a room allocation for Therapy sessions. Once the Therapy sessions have been completed, we need to delete the Client, Counsellor, Supervisor + room allocation, but we do not want to delete the Client record in the Client table. The User is offered the opportunity to either archive the client record or not archive it, that's all. The Archive procedure is simply to put a tick in the "Archive" field, not delete the record.
However, when the Client, Counsellor, Supervisor + room allocation is deleted, it is also removing the Client record. I do have a relationship between Clients, Counsellor, Supervisor, but it doesn't have "enforce referential integrity", it is just a one-to-one relationship. The odd thing is that when I delete the allocation here at home on my Access 2002 system, it does not delete the Client Record, but it does in their office, using exactly the same code and data.
The Allocation is on a sub form and the way they delete is by highlighting the Allocation and then clicking on the X - Delete button on the Access menu (the program is not very sophisticated, but has worked until now). I have some code in the "on delete" event, but even if I take out all the code and just allow the deletion with the usual Access message "you are about to delete 1 record... " I have seen that the related Client record gets deleted at the same time. it does not happen on my system, only in their office.
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Oct 16, 2012
Three tables:
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Many sessions can have many employees - thus the joining table has been included.
When trying to delete an employee from the database using a form, I encounter the error:
The record cannot be deleted or changed because table 'tblEmployeeSessions' includes related records
Is there a problem with my table relationship structure? Or is it 'correct' that as the employee is supervising a session he/she cannot be deleted as this would interfere and maybe mess up the session record?
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Hi
I have a table that I am importing from FOXPRO DATABASE. When someone goes into the system and deletes a record, Foxpro does not really delete the records but marks it for deletion. There is no field to query on that I can see in the table, but when I go to Foxpro the record is "marked" for deletion.
Anyway to exclude these records when doing a query or importing the table?
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I have a table called tblCompanies. When a company acquires another company, I need a method by which the acquired company's CompanyID (PK) can be updated to the new company's CompanyID (PK). I also need to be able to update all related CompanyIDs (FKs) to the new value in related tables.
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Can this be done?
For example
Master table:
Key 1
Related table:
1 Key 1
2 Key 1
3 Key 1
jamo
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Hi,
I've been trying to get this for ages now - both in the design view and in sql:
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Hey guys,
OK, your gonna have to bare with me a little bit as its hard to explain and if any VB is given please add a few annotations as I have to explain everything i do in a report (doest have to be too detailed, just to make the code understandable :) ) and if it needs better clarification feel free to ask :), but basically, I have the following relationship set up:
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/3246/relationnshipswd9.jpg
At the moment, because of the way it is set up, I cannot create a record in the transactions table unless an income record is given for it (because tb_income (one) to tbl_transactions (many)) but the way I want to work is as follows:
If you have a look at the tables tbl_transactions and tbl_income and their link. The way I want the system to work is when a new transaction is made, a new income record in the "tbl_income" table would be made with the date (in tbl_income) being the date at that particular time and all transactions created on the same date would all go in the subdatasheet for that one record created for that date; and if another transaction is made on an alternate date (say 00:00am of the next day) another income record would be created automatically with the date being of that particular day etc.
My other problem im facing is that everytime there is a transaction created, I want the stock level(s) field of products in that particular transaction to be decreased by the quantity purchased of that product but i have no idea how to do so
Any help?
Thanks a lot in advance!
Daniel
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This has got me stumped.
We have a massive db and on one of the screens the users can scroll through the records and view information they can also add new records. When the users enter the new record and go back to it it has been successfully stored in the relevant table even on exitin the form via the exit button (DoCmd.Close). However from time to time when the user enters the new record and closes the for via the close form button the new entry is not stored in the table and seems to have been deleted or not appended to the table.
We have no idea why this is happening as it doesnt happen all the time just from time to time.
Can anyone help please or has anyone come across this before !
Thanks for any help !
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I have an application (http://users.tpg.com.au/mr_mod/east.zip) i have been given but forsome reason one of the queries isnt doing what i expect it to do.
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Cheers
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The main form (fmTasks), bound to tbTasks, has a subform (sbfm_TaskNotes) that displays notes associated with each Task. On themain form,you select which Tasks you want duplicated via a checkbox. The append query (quCopyTasks) will duplicate all tasks that have the checkbox checked. All good there. However, I can't figure out how to also duplicate each task's Notes.
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...
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qryTeam1Games:
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qryTeams2Games:
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FROM tbl_Fixtures
GROUP BY tbl_Fixtures.team1_id;
qryAllGames:
SELECT *
FROM qryTeam1Games
UNION
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Sep 23, 2014
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The DB was running smoothly for a week after the changes but last monday (09/15) the "Record is deleted" appeared. I've compacted and repaired an the following errors descriptions appeared:
ErrorCode: -1017
ErrorDescription: Record is deleted.
ErrorTable: tblFatura
ErrorCode: -1053
ErrorDescription: Index or primary key cannot contain a Null value.
ErrorTable: tblFatura
ErrorCode: -1630
ErrorDescription: You cannot add or change a record because a related record is required in table 'TblExpense'.
ErrorTable: tblFatura
I've restored the file via IT using the Backup2 days before the error occurred but after 30 minutes the same error appeared! I dont know if it is related to the new tables that i have add or no?
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