Relationships Lost And Record Deleted
Oct 17, 2007
I have a peculiar problem.
The sequence of events is:
1. The user reports that on clearing (deleting) data in a memo field within a table an error (sometimes) occurs which results in all fields for that record containing the word #deleted. The table can no longer be opened for update via a form. (Prior to deleting the data in the memo field the user had been using copy/paste data from the memo field into other fields within the record)
2. When I open the table in datasheet view, there is a record filled with # signs usually at the beginning of the table. I delete that ( I believe that is all that is left of the original record - but there is no other identifying data).
3. The primary key (autonumber) of that table is reset i.e. it is no longer designated as the primary key. I recreate it in table design.
4. All relationships with that Primary key are deleted.
5. I recreate the relationships, run a compact and repair and all is well except that the original record is lost and has to be recreated as well.
All this because a user deleted some data in a memo field!
The DB is split with the BE on a Windows 2003 Server and the users running their FEs on a Lan. Only Access 2003 is used.
I cant replicate the problem on my development system.
Any ideas very welcome
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Jun 3, 2013
I'm getting an import error that records are being 3 records being deleted and one lost due to violations. However when I go back to check the data that was imported I can't find anything missing. Any clues on what could cause the error but still import the data.
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Jun 6, 2007
I'm having lots of erratic problems with our Access database. Back end tables on the server, front ends on workstations. Running Windows 2000 server, Access 2003 SP2 on Windows XP SP2. I'm not the network administrator so don't have much detail on network. For instance, the back end is 'losing' relationships between tables, with the primary key on the 'one' end of a 'many' relationship disappearing - the relationship link between the tables also disappears. Other errors are:- erratic problems with indexes which are sometimes fixed with a compact / repair, sometimes not- data on forms disappearing- data on forms appearing in the wrong field- queries that ask for parameter input twice when only programmed to so once- sorting orders suddenly going wrong way round - inability delete a record via a form, caused Access to completely crash with Microsofts 'sorry unrecoverable error' message. To fix the query problem, I created a blank query and imported the old one into it, problem solved. But what caused the old query to act weird in the first place?To fix the inability to delete a record problem, I created a whole new blank database and imported everything into it. But what caused the database to repeatedly crash? The suddenly missing relationships I have no cure for. I'm at the end of my tether - can't figure out any pattern to this. Any suggestions? Network errors? Read / write on server? Disk space / fragmentation? Fundamental problem with the database?Any help much appreciated.Sorry if this post should have been in the tables forum.
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Jun 9, 2014
I have split my A2013 db into FE and BE, and while it seems to be working OK, I notice that if I look at Relationships in the FE, some of the relationships are missing, though they are still there if I open the BE directly and look there.
Which view of the relationships is correct, how do they get to be different, and how do I force them to be the same ?
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Aug 29, 2006
Hi All,
This is my first post here and I imagine there will be many more as I have only just started out using Access to create a database at work and I am sure that I'm breaking many rules along the way.
Anyway, over the weekend, my boss tried to add some information (to the "Memo" field) in a form that I have created from a table, went to close the form and got a message saying something along the lines of "this record cannot be saved, if you close it, information will be deleted.
Now, in the Memo field, is the text "#Deleted" - when I try to overwrite this and come out of the record, it comes up with the message "record is deleted". If I put information in any other field in the record, there is no problem.
Also, in the table, if I try to sort by the Memo field, it comes up with same message, "record is deleted".
Does anyone know what I've done and how I can solve this?
With thanks in advance.
Ronnie
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Mar 14, 2006
Hi All,
Is there an easy way to show that a record has been deleted (besides "audit trail")?
for example:
if record_id 2 was deleted, the fields can show "deleted"
thx
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Jan 3, 2008
Hello, I've got a table that looks something like this:
deviceID | name | ...
1 | a
2 | b
3 | c
4 | d
6 | e
where deviceID is an autonumber. Clearly device 5 got deleted, but if I go to "add record" I end up adding record 7. There are still other records in the db which need to link to device5, and I have all the info needed to recreate them, how do I override the autonumber and create a record with a specific deviceID?
Thanks,
-Eric
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Aug 3, 2006
By: Tony Hine (mail@TonyHine.co.UK)
Tel: +44 1635 522233
My profile on ecademy (http://www.ecademy.com/user/tonyhine)
I had a problem importing just one table I kept getting the message “Record is deleted” and no records were imported.
First I thought it may be because there were quite a few columns in the table so I tried importing just one column, however I got the same message “Record is deleted“ .
I considered it could be because the database was originally in a Company office workgroup. I wondered if the “Work group security” was causing the problem. I read up on this and found that importing the objects directly into a new database was one of the recommended ways of circumventing this problem. This was what I was already doing! So what was wrong?
Next idea, I exported all of the records into an excel spreadsheet. This was successful! So I then re-imported the records from the spreadsheet back into a table in the database.
There were a couple of problems, in that all of the text fields were converted to 255 character length. Although annoying I thought I could handle this problem. I proceeded making a few changes to this database, then I noticed that one of the fields that had been imported was originally a “Memo field” it had been converted to a text field with 255 characters. As soon as I noticed, I checked to see if any data had been lost by comparing this field with the original data. I found a significant loss of data so back to the drawing board!
All of the other tables had imported correctly, only this one seemed to be giving problems, I had tackled the size problem it was not a big table by MS Access standards, but I felt it could be the size, In particular the number of fields could be causing this error. But just trying to import one field at a time hadn’t worked?
Then it dawned on me what if I tried to import one record at a time --- that worked! So I wrote the query with a between statement I tried 10, then a 100, then a thousand records it worked fine! However when I tried 5000 records the error re-occurred?
I realized that I probably had some corrupt data in the table, so I set about systematically extracting a limited number of records until I found the area where the corruption was.
This worked but returned “0” records --- Between 11001 And 12000
“Between 12001 And 13000” Got error message “Record is deleted”
I got to 12800 all ok
12900 caused error
Error is in a record between 12800 and 12900
I will continue to whittle it down!
OK to 12819
The corrupt record is: 12820
I had found the corrupt record! Now all I had to do was create two queries one each side of this corrupt record to extract the information.
On inspection of this corrupt record I discovered that the memo field contained the following: “#Deleted “ I am going to attempt to modify the memo field and see if it fixes the corruption of the database.
My attempt at modifying the corrupt record, in particular the memo field containing “#Deleted” caused the error message to re-occur. “Record is deleted”
I have made a copy of the actual record 12820 and pasted it into a spreadsheet to send to the customer so that it can be checked in the existing data on their system.
Fortunately there were no related records in other tables affected.
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Sep 5, 2006
Hello,
I've searched and searched but I cannot find a solution to my problem.
I have a combobox with a list of manufacturers. When you select one, the URL of their website shows up in a text box below.
I have a 'remove' button on the form and when you click it, it removes the manufacturer from the database. This works fine, but '#deleted' gets displayed in the text box. I've tried Me.Refresh, Me.Recalc, and requerying both the form and the field (I'm using Me.requery on the combo box, and it works fine there). I've also tried assigning the text box a blank value, but this doesn't work either.
I have the control source of the text box set to the URL field of the table that serves as the source of the form.
Here is my code:
Dim ManufacturerList As Control
Set ManufacturerList = Forms!frm_EditManufacturerList!cbo_Manufacturers
Dim URLBox As Control
Set URLBox = Forms!frm_EditManufacturerList!URL
Dim networkequipmentdb As DAO.Database
Dim RemoveManufacturer As DAO.Recordset
Set networkequipmentdb = CurrentDb
Set RemoveManufacturer = networkequipmentdb.OpenRecordset("ManufacturerSites")
RemoveManufacturer.Edit
RemoveManufacturer("Manufacturer").Value = ManufacturerList
RemoveManufacturer("DownloadPage").Value = URLBox
RemoveManufacturer.Delete
Me.cbo_Manufacturers = Me.cbo_Manufacturers.ItemData(0)
Me.cbo_Manufacturers.Requery
Me.URL.Requery
Me.Recalc
Me.cbo_Manufacturers.Value = ""
Me.URL = ""
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
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When I copy an entire record and paste it in a new record , I first get a duplicate issue with one of the columns(unique key constraint) and when I attempt to change the column value so as not to be duplicate ...I get a #deleted for the whole record.
This does not happen when I copy the unique column from a record and paste it then change (copying that column alone).
What could be the best explanation for this and how can I attempt this issue?
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Hi,
I hope someone can help.
I have a macro that appends and deletes records to a new table once the the record has been closed. I need to record the date this was done in my original table and the new table and have had brain freeze as to how to achieve this.
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I have attached the database ...
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The DB was running smoothly for a week after the changes but last monday (09/15) the "Record is deleted" appeared. I've compacted and repaired an the following errors descriptions appeared:
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ErrorDescription: Record is deleted.
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Hi,
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Hi there,
I have 1 front-end MS Access 2000 for forms, queries, reports linked to tables from another back-end MS Access 2000, which stores only tables.
Just today, when I tried to open the table (has about 48,000 records), it keeps having the message "Record is deleted" or if I open the form that has that table is underlying source, another error "This action will reset the current code in break mode. Do you want to stop the running code? Yes/No" .
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Please help! Greatly appreciated!!
Thanks so much,
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