Requirement Of Outer Join As Default

Nov 2, 2005

Hello All,

Beginner level question!

I am working on a schema that might need outer joins for some of the queries and thereby reports I will need to produce. So, I wanted to get an idea from the pros about the following strategy:

How about leaving all the joins in the Relationships to begin with as Inner Join and change them to Outer Join as required (for a given Query. I believe this is possible)? What are the pros and cons of this approach.

Thank you

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Okay i have 3 tables
I would like to join them all by a field called twp, but the problem is in some tables the field twp might contain more or less rows than table2 and table3 or vice versa.
Is there a way to include all the rows from all tables in a query.
Suppose if table2 has a column which table1 doesnt have, then it will just show table1 column as blank etc..
Iv tried just doing an outer join on all the tables but for some reason access doesnt allow it.

Thanks in advance

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Hi,

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5 f

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I like get the results

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