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Aug 10, 2005

I have a small unbound form which has a txt box with code something like =Rnd((20-1+1)*Rnd()+1)) to generate random numbers. When the db and form are first opened the field always contains the same number. Using F9 to refresh will generate another number but it is always the same too.

If the form is closed then reopened (db is not closed) the field will happily generate a random number each time the form is opened or if F9 is used.

I have tried Recalc in numerous events but each time it failed to work. It's late at night here so I'm hoping the morning will bring a clearer outlook???

Has anyone got any suggestions? :confused:

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