Split Db: Data Being Stored In FE Tables, Not BE Tables
Oct 12, 2005
I have created an Access 2000 Db, and have gone through the motions of splitting the Db via the Splitting Tool. Since I have done this split, I have added forms, queries, and reports to the Front End. I have left the Back end table structures alone.
This is where my problem comes into play. To enter data into the Db, I use the forms. After splitting the Db, I assumed that the data would be stored in the tables in the BE. An issue had just presented itself and I went into the BE table structure to add a field to a couple of the tables, and when I opened the BE table in the datasheet view, I noticed that there were no records. I then became curious because when I run my reports and queries, the information is present. So I opened the FE tables and what do you know, all the data I have input since the split is housed in the FE tables.
I already attempted to Update the Table Links, but that did not solve the problem, and the data is still in the FE.
Can someone, anyone please help or offer some suggestions on how to resolve this dilemna.
Thank you in advance,
DtF
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Nov 18, 2014
I have a database with numerous tables. I have set up relationships between all tables (they are all pretty one-to-many relationships). I then created forms in which to enter and view data. Data entry is fine; however, when I go into my tables, I realize that it is not storing the ID# for related tables in the main table.
For example - I have a table called "ContractTypes" with a field for ID#. That table is linked to the main table called "Contracts. In the form, I have the ContractType as a lookup field, I select the one I want for this entry, but it is not storing that ContractTypeID into the Contracts table. Also, when I go back into the form to enter a new record, the data on the subforms is from the previous record and not the record I'm currently working on. In other words, it does not appear to be linking the ID#s from the different tables.
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Do you create a separate table for old check-outs: Current_Check_Out and Archive_Check_Out?
Or do you just leave the data in place and as-is: All_Check_Outs?
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Oct 12, 2004
This has to be a common problem.
I have an environment where I have two databases. One holding tables (The Data) and one holding everything else "The Programs" (Forms, Queries etc)
When the application gets enhanced I currently have no problem updating "The Programs" since I can just copy the new MDB on top of the old MDB.
This is not the case with "The Data", if I need to change any of the tables (since they contain live data, that is modified all the time) I have to physically connect to the machine holding the Data.MDB and modify the tables. The problem is there are getting to be many locations where these changes need to be made.
Is there any way to update the tables from a script (I used to use SQL to update remote tables in a mainframe world)
Thanks
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Nov 28, 2012
I have access that is required to be accessed by multiple users and register their activities which is reflected with the tables in the background and form sends also the time that they are putting their activities.
So i split the tables and put them in a share folder in one of the PCs. however, the problem is about the timing and dates is not correct usually, and i found out some of the PCs their dates are not on sync. I asked and found out sometimes it is required to change the timing in their PCs.
Therefore, i was wondering instead of fetching the timing from their PCs why not to put the timing of share PC (i.e. timing/Date of the share PC which has the splitted tables)
so can i do like this:
User PC: (Form1) & user activity => Share PC: (Split table) & take time of the share
How can i do that?!
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Feb 12, 2008
Hi,
I have combo boxes on a form which are pulling values from a one table and being stored in another table. However they are being stored as '1' or '2' in the other table once selected on the form, as instead of being stored as their literal values ie 'car' or 'van'. Is there any way of making this happen, as it makes reporting a nightmare! Thanks in advance...
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Feb 12, 2008
Hi,
I have combo boxes on a form which are pulling values from a one table and being stored in another table. However they are being stored as '1' or '2' in the other table once selected on the form, as instead of being stored as their literal values ie 'car' or 'van'. Is there any way of making this happen, as it makes reporting a nightmare! Thanks in advance...
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The other issue I can see I'll run into is, I want to be able to select one of the company ID's (made up of a three letter abbreviation of the full company name) in the product ordering table and it will automatically fill in the rest of the customer data (phone, email, address etc) data into that form.
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How do I know when I should split a db into multiple tables? Right now- everything is in one table. Is there a rule of thumb or method to determine when I should split it up?
For example- MY DB is running queries on properties for sale. Would I split all the Active, Sold, Expired, Off Market listings into separate tables, since I will be frequently queriing based off of the status of the property? ie- I'll be running avg prices of homes that are in each of these status. If that's the case, how do I know what relationship to give it/how to set it up (use the MLS # as the primary key in each, or do I need a foreign key or something else?)
Is there a general rule of thumb, or guide to use when designing a db?
THANKS!
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Im trying to add 2 new tables to a split and linked database... but no matter which side i add the table to (BE or FE), it wont show up in the linked table manager.. so my question is 1.) is there some trick to getting it to show up in the link manager? or 2.) is there some way to re-merge the database, add the new tables.. and then split it again?
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Jan 15, 2014
I have a CSV file that the system is producing; it is one file with multiple sections in it eg...
Quote:
[Names]
001,"John Doe"
002,"Jane Doe"
003,"An Other"
[Address]
001,"63 Huntly Street","CRANMORE","BA4 7HA"
002,"52 Southern Way","NORTH QUEENSFERRY","KY11 3YZ"
003,"20 Scrimshire Lane","ASKETT","HP27 2AS"
[Orders]
001,"0001A","Screwdiver",1,8.99
001,"0001A","hammer",1,15
001,"0001A","no 3 screws",1,5
001,"0001A","drill",1,49.99
etc etc etc
The file is huge with many sections (eg Names, Address) in it. What I need to do is load it into Access for some analysis.Is there a way I can split the file one loading to the system into multiple tables?
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I have an Access 2007 file that is 'split' so the tables are centrally stored on the server.
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What is the correct way of doing this without corrupting the data?
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This database is still in Microsoft Access, and eventually after cleaning it up, we will move it to SQL Server.
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Apr 20, 2013
I have done this in Excel before, but not Access. I do not know VBA. I figure this will have to be done in a query or a macro. I don't even know if all of this is possible in Access. I need to be able to split an Address field into:
Street Number
Street Name
Street Type
Street Direction
And the purpose of this is so that I can pull out the Street Type (Drive, Road, Lane, etc) and update the abbreviations (DR, RD, LN) to the Street Type spelled completely out.
I did this in Excel by creating a Named Range "Types" on a sheet that has the abbreviations in Column A and the spelled out versions in Column B so that I could convert the abbreviations to complete street types. I broke down the entire address into each part on another sheet. Then I did a VLOOKUP to look up the Street Type in Column B in the Types range. Works great! And the only way I knew at the time to do that.
But, by doing this, I have to get the data I need from a download into a spreadsheet, break the address fields down on a second sheet, do all kinds of field update conversions (to get the field names from the download to match the field names in my Access table). This takes extensive Excel programming. I just thought there might be a way to do it by simply importing the data from the download straight into Access. That is easily done, but the Street Types aren't consistent.
There may even be a better way to do this than splitting....something like if a field CONTAINS DR update it to Drive. This would be a long process to set up because there are so many different street types to consider.
This is basically for the purpose of finding duplicates. If there is one entry called 123 Main St and another called 123 Main Street, they are not going to show up as duplicates, rather as two separate records.
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Jun 2, 2014
I have a split database. I have just created anew table in the back end and created a relationship to an existing table. All done in the backend.
I have opened up my front end and imported the back end end. But when I check the relationships in front end neither the table or link is there.
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I have 2 identical database in terms of structure but it differs in data.
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I have used the "link to datasource method" through importing the tables to have the "updating" function.
However, this method also means that the records in mainDatabase are also imported over to subDatabase which I do not want.
Is there a method to ensure that the records are shared/update one way only? (i.e. import from subDatabase to mainDatabase and not main to sub?)
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Apr 23, 2013
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They are working fine.
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I have Subtotal adding loads of fields together. Works fine.
Then I have a VATunit field which is a double integer, so enter 20 and my next field is VATTotal calculates the SubTotal + the VATunit by doing (Subtotal/100)*VATunit. This calculation is fine and gives me the correct amount.
The next field is a Total field. Which adds Subtotal and the VATTotal together. Howver, the Total is the same as Subtotal. It is not adding the VATTotal to it?
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Jul 19, 2014
I have being playing with ms access but I really don't know much about it or databases in general.I have created a very simple database to gather twitter following/followers data for research purposes.One table (table01) has a field for the "boss" user (=the user who I gather data for), another field for "client" (=bosses followers or friends).Both fields are numeric and contain the users id's.In order to distinguish if the link is follower or friend there is a third field, called type which can be either 1 (=follower) or 2 (=friend).So the data would look like this:
boss - client - type
12345, 67890, 1
12345, 54321, 2
If user with user id 12345 had a follower (type 1) with user id 67890 and a friend with user id 54321...In order to avoid getting duplicate rows I also added a unique identifier which is of the form boss_id-user_id-type.So the above row looks like this:
12345-67890-1, 12345, 67890, 1
12345-54321-2, 12345, 54321, 2
That works just fine.For several reasons I also needed data of the form source - target.So I also made another table (table02) of this form.
67890, 12345
12345, 54321
...
In table 2 you don't need the "type" field since the position of the user id shows the type of relationship.Still, you need a unique identifier in order to avoid duplicates, so I added on with the form: source_id-client_id..So table02 lookes like this
67890-12345, 67890, 12345
12345-54321, 12345, 54321
...
Both tables also have a date/time stamp for each line.As you can see, table01, having also a type field is bigger than table02.The problem is when I try to append data, exactly the same data in both tables.Appending data to table01 is ok, while appending data to table02 (which is smaller, having one less field) takes a really long time, maybe 10 times as long as appending data to table01.To make sure that no query's are causing the problem I have tried first creating temporary tables with the data to be appended, no duplicates, nothing that would cause the database to make extra calculations and used a simple update query with no filters to append data.Still I get the same result, table02 takes a very long time to finish while table01 finishes in no time.
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Jun 19, 2015
I have split database (B/E is in the SharePoint library, F/E has users on a local PCs). Sometimes, when I update/add data (does not matter if it is via form or directly in the table) it looks OK, but when I re-open the database, the data are gone.
Problem is that I cannot catch the moment when data were not saved (sometimes data are saved, sometimes not). I can point out this: if I re-enter the missing data, primary key continues subsequently, it looks like the data have never been entered. I tried to use script
Code:
If Me.Dirty Then Me.Dirty = False
on "On Close" form event, does not work.
B/E is linked by VBA code and it looks OK (no error, Link Manager shows correct path). I suspect interrupted connetion to the SharePoint but I don't know how to check it. I implemented VBA script co keep open connection to the SP but the issue persists.
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Apr 15, 2014
I am doing a project where we are collecting home owner data and information on all the dogs in the household. The data for homeowner has an autonumber primary key because no field is unique or has been consistently collected. I am struggling to link the data for the dogs to the owners because an autonumber primary key will not work since not all homes have dogs. I need to have this set up so that people who are not tech savvy can look up each homeowner (or dog) and get the dog (or home owner) information. And to make things even more fun we need up to 15 potential dogs per household each of whom will have 18 different pieces of data collected.
It looks a little like this (and you can see my not matching ID issue):
Homeowner table
ID First Name Last Name...........Total Dogs
1 Max Maximus 5
2 Min Minimus 0
3 Mus Musculus 1
Dogs 1-5 table
ID Date Dog 1 Name Dog 2 Name .......Dog 5 Name
1 (Max's) 4/11/14 Bobby Billy Betty
2 (Mus's) 4/11/14 Jojo
Min will have no dog records at all, just home information.how to link the dog's to the homeowners .
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I have tried a linked SQL union view- but this has no primary key.I need to keep the Primary key consistent as the data saved in other tables will use this field.The overall goal is creating a Purchase order system and this list will be my complete supplier list.
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Hi, all.
I have a "client/server" split Access 2003 database with an Interface file containing all the code/forms/queries and some system tables and also a Data Backend file, with all the data tables and table structure.
This is being deployed to multiple sites, each getting their own version of the backend, so sites will not be using the same backend between them all, rather multiple users in each site will all share that site's backend file.
Since users will deploy in different network locations, etc. they will have to re-link all tables. Is there a meaningful/user-friendly way of doing that without relying on user's knowledge of "Linked Table manager", etc.?
Thanks!
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I split my database. Then got the bright idea to rename them. Now when I launch the front end (which contains the forms, etc.), I get a message saying that it can't find my backed. I've tried renaming the back end back to its original name, but its still not working.
What is the best way to fix this situation? I was thinking about opening the front end, and re-importing the tables from the back end, or, breaking the links between the front end and back end. If I re-import, should I move stuff from the front end to the back end or vice versa?
Thank you in advance for your help.
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