Split Database W/be On A Server
Nov 20, 2007
Hello..
I am new to split database format... If I put the backend on say windows server 2000 or 2003 in a folder, is there anything else I need to do? Any setting on the server?? Or do I need a specific type of server os ie sql server etc?
Thanks
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Jul 12, 2007
Hi, I am not sure where to put this thread hopefully someone here can help me.
I have spent a good deal of time developing a very effective access database for a client. It is split into a front end and back end and connected using the Linked Table Manager when necessary.
The front end is quite loaded with queries, reports, forms, macros etc and the back end simply has the tables.
The front end is about 15 mb and the back about 8 mb.
Current set up is a small workgroup network with about 4 -5 consecutive users at any one given time.
I am looking for some advice on how to set up or facilitate getting the backend on the internet so anyone with a front end can access it outside of the LAN.
Today I set up an account with WebDrive which can connect to and assign a drive letter on your pc to any FTP, HTTP site.
I made the connection with WebDrive and using the linked table manager successfully linked the tables on my local machine to the back end on the FTP server - and actually ran the database at a pretty good rate.
I noticed however that it was downloading the backend to my local pc and once I closed the (a) form it was uploading the data back to the server? Very slow and often threw errors.
This of course is not what I wanted. Has anyone heard of doing this? Any work arounds or setting params would be greatly appreciated.
I have been told to create the DB in ASP but I do not have any idea on how to do that whatsoever...
Any advice or insight would be awesome!
Thanks!
Fen How
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Dec 11, 2012
I am new in database design . I did a database by access 2010 which contain form and tables and i want to split it to backend and frontend and then make then in website
I need step in detalis to do that
How to split
How to put the backend on my site
How to make frontend in site
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Mar 4, 2014
I am currently working on an application where I am using MS access as my FE and working with linked tables to SQL server BE. I also have a few temp tables within Access that are not linked but needed.
1. What are my steps into making this into a SPLIT DB? I am assume the BE will have my linked tables from SQL and the FE will have my temp tables and forms. Is this correct?
2. Once I split it, then I can make an .ACCDE file for a Mulit User environment, is this correct?
What other steps should I be made aware of?
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Jan 8, 2015
So the database I have right now is split, with the back end on our server. Everything has been going great, however there are several second time delays when loading large forms, queries, etc. I've heard that moving the back end to an sql server is the way to go for speed.All forms and queries are on front end of database. Tables are located on the back end which is sitting on the server.
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May 11, 2015
I'm looking into buying SQL Server 2014 Standard Edition.I would like to move my split end back end to the SQL Server, however I'm having a little confusion with all the different licensing out there.I have 20 computers that will be accessing the SQL Server.
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Dec 3, 2006
Howdy,
I have created a few split multiuser databases in Access 97 that my company has used over the past few years. Currently, we are trying to move everything to a new network server. When I did a simple copy and paste on Friday moving everything to the other server it seemed to work fine. Until I tried to open any of the databases. I kept getting the message that they all were read only.
Do I need to bring the database back together before transferring it? I also plan on converting the databases to Access 2003. What precautions should I take in doing this?
Thanks for any and all information you can pass along.
P
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Jun 12, 2012
At work a few of us all need to access the database to edit/update etc and at the moment only one of us can use it at once.We are getting a server in the near future so we will all be able to access it at the same time but I was wondering if there is an alternative way to do this in the meantime? I have been looking at "shared folders" but am unsure if they are suitable or how they work.
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Jan 12, 2006
:confused: I have read a quite a few threads on spiting the database. My database is 50 Meg and running very slow. I have compacted and repair, still the same. This just happen all of sudden. Could that be possible?. What should I look out before I try to spit it?. It’s given that I will make a backup. I am running Access 2003. I have over 150 users.
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Aug 12, 2006
I am almost at the finishing line with a great deal of help from here.
I have now normalised the tables, built complicated queries, forms, reports, all from scratch as I knew absolutely nothing before I started with Access three months ago.
I have compacted and repaired the database using the wizard, and also complied the code and analyzed all tables, forms, queries, and reports and relationships.
The final step is to make it an MDE file so that it can go on the local network at work (not on the internet).
My questions are these;
Do I need to split the database into front and back ends?
If I save a copy of the original MDB file and then make it a MDE file would that not suffice in making it run more efficiently?
Can a split MDB database be made into an MDE database?
Any advice, as always, is most welcome.
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Nov 21, 2006
I have a database that resides on a file server share. I have split the database to create a backend. I then posted a shortcut of the front end to the desktops of two users who have access to the share. I then tried to access the front end from the two machines simultaneously. It opened on the first PC but not the second? When I viewed the server share it had a 'padlock' icon?
Where am I going wrong? This is the first time I have attempted this scenario!!
Thanks in advance,
Phil
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Dec 21, 2006
Hello,
Should splitting only be done when all tables,queries,forms,reports, etc. are done. Or can it be done anytime. I am almost to that stage but didnt want to jump the gun and run into problems later on.
Thanks.
I will have about 20 users sharing this.
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Dec 27, 2006
I was having a discussion with Rickster57 concerning my newly developed database, and he recommended that I split it so that it has a front end and a back end. Rick listed a number of very good reasons for doing this (so I will definitely do it). But I wanted to pose the question so I could get some of the reasons the more seasoned Access programmers have for creating a front and back end to their programs.
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Jun 29, 2007
I recently split my database and also used Bob Larson's Autoupdating tool. Everything appeared to be working fine until a few users were unable to access the db. I later found out that because they are at a different site, they don't map to the server that houses the database BE. However, even if they manually map to the correct server, they are unable to bring up the db Form. They get an error stating the BE "...is not a valid path". My questions are:
1) If I were to copy all the files (the Master FE, BE, and MDE) to a public folder that ALL users have access to, will everyone be able to bring up the database Form?
2) How would this affect what was already set up when I ran Bob Larson's utility (or even the splitting and MDE creation)?
3) Is there a way to "Undo" what was previously "Done" to this database (ie: Splitting, Larson Utility, MDE creation) in order to correct the issue, or do I need to start from scratch and split the database while it's on a Public drive.
I hope this makes sense. Thanks in advance for your help.
Michael
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Jul 2, 2007
Hi!
I just want to know that " How to split the Access database in Front End and Back End application"? I am creating a database that i want to store on server and simultaneously want to give access to 20 terminals (cleints) to access the database.
Secondly, I have to provide a field in a form "Document number". However as per the requirement user can enter "PIR No", "Serial No" or at times both as document number. Both the things "PIR No" and "Serial No" have different format types like "PIR No 001" and "Srl No001".
On basis of document number later i have to give the option to search the particular document. Please guide me how to provide the option to enter the field values.
Appreciate any help on above.
Regards,
Nick
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Aug 12, 2006
I am almost at the finishing line with a great deal of help from here.
I have now normalised the tables, built complicated queries, forms, reports, all from scratch as I knew absolutely nothing before I started with Access three months ago.
I have compacted and repaired the database using the wizard, and also complied the code and analyzed all tables, forms, queries, and reports and relationships.
The final step is to make it an MDE file so that it can go on the local network at work (not on the internet).
My questions are these;
Do I need to split the database into front and back ends?
If I save a copy of the original MDB file and then make it a MDE file would that not suffice in making it run more efficiently?
Can a split MDB database be made into an MDE database?
Any advice, as always, is most welcome.
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Sep 23, 2005
I have an Access database on my server. My client does not like the idea of having to download the db, make changes, then upload it back. In the past, he has dealt with SQL databases, where you can create an access data project, that will give you a desktop shortcut straight to the database. I was wondering if there was any way to do something similar with an Access database. There is FTP setup for the site and all required permissions are setup. Is there any way to create a desktop shortcut, so he can edit the database in real-time, without having to download and upload? Thanks for any help.
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Jul 17, 2006
I have a database with a couple of search forms to use for my company. My boss wants me to place this on the intranet so anyone can use it not only those with MS Access, which many people do not have on their computers. Please let me know if there is a way to do this and still make it interactive by means of searching. Thanks
Riley
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Feb 8, 2007
I log into my server via remote connection from 3000 miles away. My database resides there.
If for what ever reason, I dump locally - the server does not recognize that I dumped - and thus keeps me logged in.
When I log back in, it logs me in as a second instance.
Here is the problem:
I was in access changing a form when I was dumped. (power went out). Now the server thinks I am still connected working on it. How do I shut down the service that has the DB locked - and delete the record-locking file that resides in the directory beside the database. (this record-locking file is the file that access creates whenever you start editing your database forms..etc...). I can't just delete that file - as access tells the server that it is still in use.
I am almost sure a reboot would rectify this issue - is there ANOTHER way to do this? (what is the service that is running that can be forced down?)
Thanks in advance,
Belchlord - way down South.
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Oct 22, 2013
I have a database (Access 2003 and I am using it with Access 2007 with user level security) on shared folder on internal Dell server and I have created a shortcut to each user's machine to access it. This days I am facing a problem of db size as every 10 days it's increasing upto 2gb but the strange thing is when I am doing cut / pasting same database to my desktop from the server shared folder it will become 80 mb only and I am again placing that db (80mb db) into the server and it will work. What is a reason behind it? why my 80mb db is showing 2gb db on server?
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May 23, 2014
I have created a database with multiple user and I have stored it on a file server. The remote users have been given read write permission on the server. However when the person opens the database it is read only. I have not to my knowledge made the file read only as I am able to work off the same file from the server. I made sure that no one was using the database when It was opened but it still comes up as read only. She is able to access the database and work in it but she is not able to modify anything and she does have permission within the database to do so.
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Jun 29, 2014
I'll try to explain what I'm trying to do. I want to use the MS Access (2010) application residing on the remote server on a Access database(accdb) that is located on my local (home) PC. I copied the database from the server. How do I get Access (running on the server) to work on my copy of the database?
I tried using my local (on my PC) copy of MS Access (2007) to work on the database, but but I get file errors (file paths look like server paths).
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Sep 11, 2005
I am combining 12 Databases. I have split all 12 between the server and the desktop. My question is “Should I combing all of the data table on the server into one database or should I leave all of the individual application data tables in separate Databases on the server”. Additionally, is there a limit to the number of tables an Access DB can handle? My inclination is to keep the functionality separated but the problem I have is that some of the functionality within the applications overlap. Recommendations!
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Nov 9, 2005
'ello all,
The moment of truth finally came and I split my database FE/BE for testing only the truth was a bit sour.
Background:
I have several forms in my database that have a common series of buttons at the top which open their corresponding form. Before the split, everything was fine - you can click on the button and the desired form would open. After the split, I'm getting the error message:
"Microsoft Office Access couldn't find the toolbar 'EVM Database Menu'."
This is referencing a toolbar that I used during development to help jump to forms.
I tried removing the toolbar from each form (Tools > Customize > Toolbars > unchecked the custom toolbar), and re-split the database FE/BE ends, but to no avail..
So, I checked the event codes to be sure I didn't program something wrong. There are 9 buttons total to open forms, 7 of them give this problem, the remaining 2 do not. The code for the problematic and non-problematic ones are identical!
Example - Non-Working (error message re: Custom Toolbar):
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Private Sub cmdActuals_Click()
On Error GoTo Err_cmdActuals_Click
Dim stDocName As String
Dim stLinkCriteria As String
stDocName = "frmDataActuals"
DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria
Exit_cmdActuals_Click:
Exit Sub
Err_cmdActuals_Click:
MsgBox err.Description
Resume Exit_cmdActuals_Click
End Sub
Example - Working (no error message):
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Private Sub cmdPerfProj_Click()
On Error GoTo Err_cmdPerfProj_Click
Dim stDocName As String
Dim stLinkCriteria As String
stDocName = "frmPerfProj"
DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria
Exit_cmdPerfProj_Click:
Exit Sub
Err_cmdPerfProj_Click:
MsgBox err.Description
Resume Exit_cmdPerfProj_Click
End Sub
Questions:
So..this has nothing to do with code, it must be a problem in the linking somehow, right? A bug possibly? What else could be causing this? More importantly, is there a solution to my predicament that anyone could help out with? Searches so far have returned no help either from forums (including here), MS site (no Q-articles), and VBA Help. I'll continue searching though.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Jul 11, 2006
Hi,
as an attempt to improve database performance, I have split a MS Access 2003 database. I have successfully split the database and saved the backend onto the server. My question is, where is the front end. or do I have to create it?
Cheers.
Ben
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Oct 3, 2006
I have a database that I've created for someone else to use. It's split into a front and back end. The user will be placing the front end on her desktop PC and the back end on a network server.
She also will be taking the database home to use from time to time. My problem is that when the database is split, upon opening, it looks for the back end on the network drive, which is unavailable when she's away from the office.
Is there a way to tell the Access to look in a directory relative to the one it's in?
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