Strange Error After Database Split - Need Help!
Nov 22, 2005
Everything we peachy-keen with my database until I split it and I get the following error:
"The expression On Menu you entered as the event property setting produced the following error: User-defined type not defined."
Please help as I'm not sure how to proceed. Here are some facts:
1. I'm a noobie with Access. I've been clever and resourceful enough to figure out most answers to my questions, but searching for this one have turned up bare.
2. There was a single custom Toolbox present before splitting the database. On the Import, though, I used the option to import toolboxes/menuboxes (checkmark at the bottom on the Import page).
3. I've checked for missing/broken References, there are none being reported.
4. The 'On Menu' event exists nowhere to my knowledge! Where can I find it and hopefully troubleshoot the problem?
Your imput welcome, I'm defeated for now, but am continuing the search for an answer. Please help ;)
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Sep 11, 2007
Hello. I just split my Access 2000 database and receive the following Run-time error (#3251): Current provider does not support the necessary interface for Index functionality. This error occurs on the following line of code: tablename.Index = "PrimaryKey"
Does anyone know why this occured after I split the database and what exactly it means?
Thanks in advance.
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Nov 8, 2005
Since splitting my database into a front & back end - when I attempt to run the front end part from a client PC logging in as one of the users/groups defined I get : 'Disk or Network Error' and the DB fails to open.
If I log in using the same username/group bypassing the config/startup options - I do see the Access Design view main window - but then if I attempt to open (not all) most of the forms in Form View - I again get the same 'Disk or Network Error' message each time.
Yet, if I log in as the administrator from the same workstation - no message appears?
Any ideas please? :confused:
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Nov 16, 2011
We have a MS Access Application. It involves authentication as well. I split the database and created this db_be file. I deleted this. Now I'm not able to login into this Application.
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Oct 4, 2005
I received a very strange error this morning.
I was going to create a new query with the simple query wizard, but as soon as selected a data source I got a message saying "The expression on Got Focus you entered as the event property setting produced the following error: The text you entered isn't an item in the list."
After this I can select a datasource, but the cursor remains in hourglass mode. It almost seems like this is a run-time error, when I am merely trying to create a new query. In addition to which, I haven't set any events to run on "got focus". Anyone have any ideas on what is causing this and how it can be fixed?
Thanks,
Chris
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Dec 12, 2005
When I recently opened a Db I had been working on I received the attached Msg.
The path to the Db is C:Database ProjectsAEMSWarranties and Sales.mdb
Once OK is pressed the Db works fine.
I created a new Db and imported all objects, but no change.
Any ideas?
Dave
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Jun 26, 2006
I work in an environment with 7 computers networked to the same database. Until last week the database worked fine on all computers.
One computer was wiped clean and reinstalled with XP pro sp2 with all updates, office XP with all updates and also every other programs needed etc etc...
Now the database that every one uses will open up but will crash when the date filter is used in any form/report/query... This is the only computer this happens on and the error sometimes comes back with the following number 2147418113 but is intermittent. I dont think it is anything in the VB as it works totally on every other computer and worked fine on this one until reinstall of everything...
any thoughts anyone??...or has anyone ever heard of this??
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Sep 19, 2005
I have a bound form with a bound subform which is in continuous or datasheet view. I have been experiencing a strange problem of late. After i complete the first record of the subform and then move on to the second record , sometimes i get strange messages like :-
1) The Microsoft Jet Database Engine Stopped the process because you and another user are attempting to change the data at the same time.
2) Invalid Argument
3) Unrecognised database format c:windows empjet(something).tmp
4) Not a valid bookmark
These errors once they appear wont go away even if you try to ignore them. they just keep coming and each of the columns has an "#error# written in it. you have to close the module and start again. Whats more if you enter exactly the same data again, they do not show up again i.e. random errors. and it happens only when you complete the first record.
To clarify, these errors appear even in a single user environment. i do not change the recordsource or link fields properties at run time for the subform or mainform.
is there anything i have overlooked in form design / code ? Please help me out.
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Apr 14, 2005
I have a database that keeps track of street light inspections.
There is a form with inspection info and a subform with any faults found - Works Fine
There is a report with the same information - Works Fine'ish
The report allways used to work fine but for no apparent reason it previews fine but when printing I get the following message and the subreport information does not print (although if I open the sub report seperately it prints fine).
'This expression is typed incorrectly, or it is too complex to be evaluated. For example, a numeric expression may contain too many complicated elements. Try simplifying the expression by assigning parts of the expression to variables.'
I am banging my head against the wall with this one. It used to print fine and I have made no changes, apart from data. Have tried compact/repair to no avail.
Could someone please point me in the right direction, my head is hurting...
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Hi frineds,
I need help, please. It's very strange error, when i open this following page after 10th of every month it runs perfect. but if i run this on 01-10th of month then it give error '80020009', seems like null value error.
formatdatetime code i use.
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May 20, 2005
Hi all
I'm working in Access 2000 for the first time and all was well until I introduced a wizard-created Switchboard. I created the Order Entry database using the Access wizard and copied the Switchboard form and tables into my database.
Since then I keep getting the following message:
"Error accessing file. Network connection may have been lost."
I've Compacted and Repaired but still keep getting the message. Does anyone have any ideas what's going on?
tia
shay
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May 17, 2006
Hi,
I have been doing some minor change in design view in my database but now each time I am closing the database. I am getting the following message:
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I have a table called 'students' with the appropriate fields. There is another table named parents_prof which contains records of common professions. The tables are related through the 'ID_parents_prof' of the 'parents_prof' table to two fields on the table 'students', thus 'students.father_prof' and 'students.mother_prof'.
1st question) Is that possible? Is it possible to create a relation between the key field of one table to two different fields of another table? Is it a good practice?
I did this because I want to build a query which checks for both fields together, meaning I want Access to return a record if the appropriate profession is in either field of mother's or father's profession.
SELECT students.surname, students.name, students.father_name, students.father_prof, students.mother_name, students.mother_prof
FROM parents_prof INNER JOIN students ON (parents_prof.ID_parents_prof = students.mother_prof) OR (parents_prof.ID_parents_prof = students.father_prof)
GROUP BY students.surname, students.name, students.father_prof, students.mother_prof, parents_prof.parents_prof
HAVING (((parents_prof.parents_prof) Like "*" & [enter profession] & "*"));
Access cannot represent the above graphical, so I had to enter the
OR (parents_prof.ID_parents_prof = students.father_prof)
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2nd question) Is the above proper query, according to the rules?
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Jul 7, 2006
Hi Guys!
I want to insert an update-button in my form (see attachment). When i use the Access-guide it inserts the following line into the buttons onClick-code:
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But then I get this strange error: "The update-command is currently not available" (translated from danish version of Access).
I think that is really strange. What does that error mean?? Anyone knows? How can I possibly fix this?
//JR
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:confused: I have read a quite a few threads on spiting the database. My database is 50 Meg and running very slow. I have compacted and repair, still the same. This just happen all of sudden. Could that be possible?. What should I look out before I try to spit it?. It’s given that I will make a backup. I am running Access 2003. I have over 150 users.
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Aug 12, 2006
I am almost at the finishing line with a great deal of help from here.
I have now normalised the tables, built complicated queries, forms, reports, all from scratch as I knew absolutely nothing before I started with Access three months ago.
I have compacted and repaired the database using the wizard, and also complied the code and analyzed all tables, forms, queries, and reports and relationships.
The final step is to make it an MDE file so that it can go on the local network at work (not on the internet).
My questions are these;
Do I need to split the database into front and back ends?
If I save a copy of the original MDB file and then make it a MDE file would that not suffice in making it run more efficiently?
Can a split MDB database be made into an MDE database?
Any advice, as always, is most welcome.
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Nov 21, 2006
I have a database that resides on a file server share. I have split the database to create a backend. I then posted a shortcut of the front end to the desktops of two users who have access to the share. I then tried to access the front end from the two machines simultaneously. It opened on the first PC but not the second? When I viewed the server share it had a 'padlock' icon?
Where am I going wrong? This is the first time I have attempted this scenario!!
Thanks in advance,
Phil
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Dec 21, 2006
Hello,
Should splitting only be done when all tables,queries,forms,reports, etc. are done. Or can it be done anytime. I am almost to that stage but didnt want to jump the gun and run into problems later on.
Thanks.
I will have about 20 users sharing this.
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I was having a discussion with Rickster57 concerning my newly developed database, and he recommended that I split it so that it has a front end and a back end. Rick listed a number of very good reasons for doing this (so I will definitely do it). But I wanted to pose the question so I could get some of the reasons the more seasoned Access programmers have for creating a front and back end to their programs.
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Jun 29, 2007
I recently split my database and also used Bob Larson's Autoupdating tool. Everything appeared to be working fine until a few users were unable to access the db. I later found out that because they are at a different site, they don't map to the server that houses the database BE. However, even if they manually map to the correct server, they are unable to bring up the db Form. They get an error stating the BE "...is not a valid path". My questions are:
1) If I were to copy all the files (the Master FE, BE, and MDE) to a public folder that ALL users have access to, will everyone be able to bring up the database Form?
2) How would this affect what was already set up when I ran Bob Larson's utility (or even the splitting and MDE creation)?
3) Is there a way to "Undo" what was previously "Done" to this database (ie: Splitting, Larson Utility, MDE creation) in order to correct the issue, or do I need to start from scratch and split the database while it's on a Public drive.
I hope this makes sense. Thanks in advance for your help.
Michael
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Jul 2, 2007
Hi!
I just want to know that " How to split the Access database in Front End and Back End application"? I am creating a database that i want to store on server and simultaneously want to give access to 20 terminals (cleints) to access the database.
Secondly, I have to provide a field in a form "Document number". However as per the requirement user can enter "PIR No", "Serial No" or at times both as document number. Both the things "PIR No" and "Serial No" have different format types like "PIR No 001" and "Srl No001".
On basis of document number later i have to give the option to search the particular document. Please guide me how to provide the option to enter the field values.
Appreciate any help on above.
Regards,
Nick
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Aug 12, 2006
I am almost at the finishing line with a great deal of help from here.
I have now normalised the tables, built complicated queries, forms, reports, all from scratch as I knew absolutely nothing before I started with Access three months ago.
I have compacted and repaired the database using the wizard, and also complied the code and analyzed all tables, forms, queries, and reports and relationships.
The final step is to make it an MDE file so that it can go on the local network at work (not on the internet).
My questions are these;
Do I need to split the database into front and back ends?
If I save a copy of the original MDB file and then make it a MDE file would that not suffice in making it run more efficiently?
Can a split MDB database be made into an MDE database?
Any advice, as always, is most welcome.
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Sep 11, 2005
I am combining 12 Databases. I have split all 12 between the server and the desktop. My question is “Should I combing all of the data table on the server into one database or should I leave all of the individual application data tables in separate Databases on the server”. Additionally, is there a limit to the number of tables an Access DB can handle? My inclination is to keep the functionality separated but the problem I have is that some of the functionality within the applications overlap. Recommendations!
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Nov 9, 2005
'ello all,
The moment of truth finally came and I split my database FE/BE for testing only the truth was a bit sour.
Background:
I have several forms in my database that have a common series of buttons at the top which open their corresponding form. Before the split, everything was fine - you can click on the button and the desired form would open. After the split, I'm getting the error message:
"Microsoft Office Access couldn't find the toolbar 'EVM Database Menu'."
This is referencing a toolbar that I used during development to help jump to forms.
I tried removing the toolbar from each form (Tools > Customize > Toolbars > unchecked the custom toolbar), and re-split the database FE/BE ends, but to no avail..
So, I checked the event codes to be sure I didn't program something wrong. There are 9 buttons total to open forms, 7 of them give this problem, the remaining 2 do not. The code for the problematic and non-problematic ones are identical!
Example - Non-Working (error message re: Custom Toolbar):
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Private Sub cmdActuals_Click()
On Error GoTo Err_cmdActuals_Click
Dim stDocName As String
Dim stLinkCriteria As String
stDocName = "frmDataActuals"
DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria
Exit_cmdActuals_Click:
Exit Sub
Err_cmdActuals_Click:
MsgBox err.Description
Resume Exit_cmdActuals_Click
End Sub
Example - Working (no error message):
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Private Sub cmdPerfProj_Click()
On Error GoTo Err_cmdPerfProj_Click
Dim stDocName As String
Dim stLinkCriteria As String
stDocName = "frmPerfProj"
DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria
Exit_cmdPerfProj_Click:
Exit Sub
Err_cmdPerfProj_Click:
MsgBox err.Description
Resume Exit_cmdPerfProj_Click
End Sub
Questions:
So..this has nothing to do with code, it must be a problem in the linking somehow, right? A bug possibly? What else could be causing this? More importantly, is there a solution to my predicament that anyone could help out with? Searches so far have returned no help either from forums (including here), MS site (no Q-articles), and VBA Help. I'll continue searching though.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Jul 11, 2006
Hi,
as an attempt to improve database performance, I have split a MS Access 2003 database. I have successfully split the database and saved the backend onto the server. My question is, where is the front end. or do I have to create it?
Cheers.
Ben
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Oct 3, 2006
I have a database that I've created for someone else to use. It's split into a front and back end. The user will be placing the front end on her desktop PC and the back end on a network server.
She also will be taking the database home to use from time to time. My problem is that when the database is split, upon opening, it looks for the back end on the network drive, which is unavailable when she's away from the office.
Is there a way to tell the Access to look in a directory relative to the one it's in?
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