Tables :: Record Cannot Be Deleted Or Changed Because Table Include Related Records
Oct 16, 2012
Three tables:
Employee, Sessions, EmployeeSessions.
Many sessions can have many employees - thus the joining table has been included.
When trying to delete an employee from the database using a form, I encounter the error:
The record cannot be deleted or changed because table 'tblEmployeeSessions' includes related records
Is there a problem with my table relationship structure? Or is it 'correct' that as the employee is supervising a session he/she cannot be deleted as this would interfere and maybe mess up the session record?
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Jun 13, 2014
I am losing records in one table when I delete from another, i.e., I do want to delete records in one, but the related records in the other are also being deleted. This was not happening until I did a recent up date.I created a database in Access 2002 about 8 years ago and my client has been using it successfully ever since. I have occasionally made updates and enhancements. They have over the years upgraded and are now on Office 2010. I'm still using Access 2002.
I recently (3 weeks ago) added a new feature and installed the new code. The database is split, code and data. The new feature was working well, but suddenly they were losing records and they cannot operate until I have it resolved. I spent 2 hours today in their office and could not work out why it was happening.
I have a straight forward client table with names and addresses and some other information. I have another table which links together Clients, Counsellors and Supervisors and works out a room allocation for Therapy sessions. Once the Therapy sessions have been completed, we need to delete the Client, Counsellor, Supervisor + room allocation, but we do not want to delete the Client record in the Client table. The User is offered the opportunity to either archive the client record or not archive it, that's all. The Archive procedure is simply to put a tick in the "Archive" field, not delete the record.
However, when the Client, Counsellor, Supervisor + room allocation is deleted, it is also removing the Client record. I do have a relationship between Clients, Counsellor, Supervisor, but it doesn't have "enforce referential integrity", it is just a one-to-one relationship. The odd thing is that when I delete the allocation here at home on my Access 2002 system, it does not delete the Client Record, but it does in their office, using exactly the same code and data.
The Allocation is on a sub form and the way they delete is by highlighting the Allocation and then clicking on the X - Delete button on the Access menu (the program is not very sophisticated, but has worked until now). I have some code in the "on delete" event, but even if I take out all the code and just allow the deletion with the usual Access message "you are about to delete 1 record... " I have seen that the related Client record gets deleted at the same time. it does not happen on my system, only in their office.
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Aug 21, 2014
I have a single table database for inventory. Every 3 months or so, some records get changed or updated. My manager wants to keep an archive of all of the records that have been changed so we can go back and look at an history of all of the records. So, My thought is to create an "Archive" table, appended all of the current records to it. Then, when changes are made, create an Append Query, or what ever works, to copy just the changed records from the Main to the Archive table. There are only 200 items in the inventory so it is not a large database.
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Oct 22, 2012
Currently I keep getting this error: "You cannot add or change a record because a related record is required in table"..My current tables are this:
Primary Table with persons info:
Primary Key - Auto number generated
Name
Address
Email
Phone
I have 4 other tables with use check boxes.
ex:
Table 1 - Geographic locations visited
ID - Auto generated
USA
CANADA
ASIA
ECT...
Table 2 - Languages Spoken
ID - Auto generated
Spanish
Chinese
English
Table 3 - Skills
ID - Auto generated
Hunting
Dance
Singing
Weaving
Is this not a genuine one-to-one relationship table? I mean No two people would have had visited the same places and speak the same language no? I tried to create a one to one relationship with the primary key to the auto generated ID of the child tables but I'm sure that is not how you do it. Also when I try to save the check boxes in my form and I close it and come back it doesnt save and is blank again. Is it because my form gets its information from a query that takes all the information from all the tables.
how I can get this to work properly? Am i to make use of a foreign key? I've read a lot about it online and watched youtube videos but I dont see why I need it here in this case. Is there a way to set the IDs in the child tables to be the ones from the primary table? Or do I have to use a foreign key and manually input the primary ID into them?
Or would it be better to have all these child tables in the primary table and have one large table instead? I just didnt do that because one of them has like 20 checkboxes with cities and locations
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Mar 23, 2008
Hey guys,
OK, your gonna have to bare with me a little bit as its hard to explain and if any VB is given please add a few annotations as I have to explain everything i do in a report (doest have to be too detailed, just to make the code understandable :) ) and if it needs better clarification feel free to ask :), but basically, I have the following relationship set up:
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/3246/relationnshipswd9.jpg
At the moment, because of the way it is set up, I cannot create a record in the transactions table unless an income record is given for it (because tb_income (one) to tbl_transactions (many)) but the way I want to work is as follows:
If you have a look at the tables tbl_transactions and tbl_income and their link. The way I want the system to work is when a new transaction is made, a new income record in the "tbl_income" table would be made with the date (in tbl_income) being the date at that particular time and all transactions created on the same date would all go in the subdatasheet for that one record created for that date; and if another transaction is made on an alternate date (say 00:00am of the next day) another income record would be created automatically with the date being of that particular day etc.
My other problem im facing is that everytime there is a transaction created, I want the stock level(s) field of products in that particular transaction to be decreased by the quantity purchased of that product but i have no idea how to do so
Any help?
Thanks a lot in advance!
Daniel
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Aug 22, 2013
I have a table called tblCompanies. When a company acquires another company, I need a method by which the acquired company's CompanyID (PK) can be updated to the new company's CompanyID (PK). I also need to be able to update all related CompanyIDs (FKs) to the new value in related tables.
In cases in which the new company does not have an existing record, there is no problem: the company name simply gets changed to the new company and the existing CompanyID is maintained. I then use an audit table and Track Changes function to keep track of the company name data and a union query to keep the old names in the selection lists.
The problem is when both companies already have existing records in the table.
So, let's say I have records for Company A and Company B. Company A merges with Company B and Company B is now the main record. What is the best, simplest and easiest way to update the CompanyID (PK) from A to B and change the CompanyID (FK) to the new value in all related tables?
I am envisioning a pop-up form that directs the user to select the new company and then an update query happens behind the scenes... but exactly how does the criteria for the update query get selected and how do all the related tables get updated? My vba skills are pretty basic, will I need extensive coding to do something like this?
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Jul 10, 2015
How can I include a field from a table in to a query - that has no relationship?
For example...
The 'Despatch' field is in a seperate table called 'Product', because we despatch multiple products for any ONE order at different times, so it needs to be against the Product and not the full job itself.However, when I include the 'Product' table into the query and insert the 'Despatch' field into my query, and run it comes up with an error...
"The SQL Statement could not be executed because it contains ambiguouse outer joins. To force one of the joins to be performed first, create a seperate query that performs the first join and then iclude that query in your SQL statement". Here's the current SQL statement
Code:
SELECT [Materials Requested].[Job No], [Materials/Orders].Total, Jobs.[Project Name], Product.Despatch
FROM Product, Orders INNER JOIN (((Customer RIGHT JOIN Jobs ON Customer.[Customer ID] = Jobs.[Customer ID]) INNER JOIN [Materials Requested] ON Jobs.[Job No] = [Materials Requested].[Job No]) INNER JOIN [Materials/Orders] ON [Materials Requested].[Materials Requested ID] = [Materials/Orders].[Materials Requested ID]) ON Orders.[Orders ID] = [Materials/Orders].[Orders ID];
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Apr 12, 2013
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Apr 25, 2014
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The problem is, I deleted a record out of Users, but it also automatically deleted the related Employees record. Re-creating the employee was quite the task because all related records in several other tables also disappeared. I experimented by deleting the relationship between the two tables and then deleting another user, but it still deleted the related employee. How can this be? The two tables are no longer linked, other than the Users EmpNum lookup.
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Query_Rates (Actually this is the result of a query):
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A
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145
[code]...
So what I want is a list of all the records from the Query_Rates table where the absolute differences between the sold rates between Query_Rates & [Sent till date] (matching the unit # and the dates) is greater than 1 and the record shouldn't be displayed if it is already present in the [Sent till date] table. But if you notice the first record which has unit A is already mentioned in the "Sent till date" table and shouldn't be repeated again in the query result.
The desired out put should be:
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R_Date
Sold_Rate
X
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Hi
I have a table that I am importing from FOXPRO DATABASE. When someone goes into the system and deletes a record, Foxpro does not really delete the records but marks it for deletion. There is no field to query on that I can see in the table, but when I go to Foxpro the record is "marked" for deletion.
Anyway to exclude these records when doing a query or importing the table?
Thanks
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If I am in the table is there any way to somehow "designate" or select the 50 names I want to keep and then just mass delete the other 249 in one fell swoop? If I can somehow sort the 50 names so they would appear as the first 50 names in the table, then I could simply delete all the names below.
But not sure how to make this happen. It would seem to be the simplest solution. Unless I can physically drag and drop each of the 50 names I want to keep to the top of the table, but I don't think this is possible.
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Etc.
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Hi,
Hope someone can help me out on this one. Searched the forum but can’t find anything to help me out.
I have two tables:
tblCustomers that contains unique customer records (names addresses etc.)
and
tblComments that contains comment data for the customers
Tables are joined one to many tblCustomers -> tblComments on account_ref
tblComments can contain several records per customer, all are datestamped.
I want just the latest datestamped comment record per customer, just can’t seem to work the logic on this one. Must be so simple but can’t fathom it.:confused:
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Hi! Please help!!!
I'm currently building a bookings database and have encountered an alert message that I cant seem to rectify -
"You cannot add or change a record because a related record is required in the table 'Booking Details'"
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I have no problem updating information in the 'Booking Quote' subform, but when I try to add information to 'Booking Payments' it states the above message.
Can anyone please advise as to how I can prevent this happening? I'm slowly losing my mind....!!!
Many thanks,
Stacey
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The result would be
Code:
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Each of these package types is either a case or a pallet (counter display and end cap are cases and half and full pallets are pallets) This relationship is kept in another table (we will call it description table).
Now, based on the type of package and therefore it being a case or pallet a UPC and a GTIN number are assigned. The GTIN number is different if it is a case or is a pallet. I have a table that stores all of the UPC and GTIN numbers available in 3 columns, one for UPC, one for GTIN Case and one for GTIN Pallet (the UPC is a standard 12 digit and the GTINs are 14 digit -with the first 2 different to designate pallet or case. and all are based on the check digit formula necessary)
The user assigns the UPC and correct GTIN number by clicking a button which applies the next available UPC code to the package and determines if the description of the type (case or pallet) and inserts correct GTIN number into that field. I actually have all of this functioning correctly.
Now the problem. If a user changes the package type, and therefore changes the description, I need to add code to the update event of the combo box that gives the choices for package type that does the following:
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OR as I write this, maybe the code could simply update the main table with the correct GTIN code based on the new description and the existing UPC code. This was I would not need to check for a change just do the update every time.
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Feb 13, 2008
Hi everyone,
I am using Access 2007 and I have a database with 2 tables. The original table has a primary key field designated. I have a relationship between that table and a second table and that relationship has "enforce referential integrity" checked.
In the secondary table the field that the relationship is bound to is not a primary key but has the same field properties.
I created a new record in the original table and created the primary key of "T-124". When I attempted to add the same data to the field in the second table, I recieved the following error message: "You cannot add or change a record because a related record is required" in the other table.
I did create the record in the other table:eek:
Can anybody help????:(
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This is a database of pregnancies and deliveries.
The single table does not cater well for multiple pregnancies (twins, triplets, etc), and also I foresee problems when mothers come back in future for another delivery.
Therefore I am trying to separate data into 3 tables: Mother, Delivery and Baby.
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The primary key of the Mother table is linked to the Delivery table, and ditto the primary key of the Delivery table and the Baby table.
I'm not sure how to migrate the data over, in terms of the primary keys of each table, because in the new tables, these should be an AutoNumber field, so that they are unique numbers.
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