Tables :: Split Database Not Updating Relationship
Jun 2, 2014
I have a split database. I have just created anew table in the back end and created a relationship to an existing table. All done in the backend.
I have opened up my front end and imported the back end end. But when I check the relationships in front end neither the table or link is there.
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Oct 12, 2004
This has to be a common problem.
I have an environment where I have two databases. One holding tables (The Data) and one holding everything else "The Programs" (Forms, Queries etc)
When the application gets enhanced I currently have no problem updating "The Programs" since I can just copy the new MDB on top of the old MDB.
This is not the case with "The Data", if I need to change any of the tables (since they contain live data, that is modified all the time) I have to physically connect to the machine holding the Data.MDB and modify the tables. The problem is there are getting to be many locations where these changes need to be made.
Is there any way to update the tables from a script (I used to use SQL to update remote tables in a mainframe world)
Thanks
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Dec 8, 2005
I've split a table in which a number of fields weren't always relevant to enter on every occasion and linked them in a one to one relationship, the idea is to increase efficiency and help reporting. Both have the same name primary key linked with referential integrity and cascade update related field ticked.
I've used a control button on one form relevant to that table to open a form linked to the other when the user requires to add the extra info, but for some reason it doesn't automatically put in the key in the other form and therefore link the tables.
What I want to do is have the original form link to the additional info table and auto updates the key (link field) in that table if the user wishes to enter extra info.
Can anyone help, been stuck on this for a bit too long now. Thanks!
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Sep 22, 2013
I have split the data base
Added a new table to the back end .But do not know how to update it to the front end
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Mar 4, 2013
I am about to set up a database but wanted to check the relationship of the main tables before I add to it. I have attached the relationship design
For a PROJECT, there can be many TESTS, for a TEST, there can be many PRODUCTS
Is my design reasonably sensible?
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Oct 11, 2005
Im trying to add 2 new tables to a split and linked database... but no matter which side i add the table to (BE or FE), it wont show up in the linked table manager.. so my question is 1.) is there some trick to getting it to show up in the link manager? or 2.) is there some way to re-merge the database, add the new tables.. and then split it again?
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Aug 18, 2014
So i split my database into a front and back end, now i wanted to add a table to the database. I created the table in the backend but im not sure how to make it appear in the front end. Im using access 2010. I tried the link table manager but the table i created dosent appear there.
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May 6, 2014
I have split the database I have created via the splitter-wizard and found that all tables with auto-numbers have re-set back to 1.
How do I get around this problem - I have tried running an append query but it flags up an error message. For certain functions to work in the database I need to set autonumbers at different amounts .
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Feb 25, 2008
Hi, all.
I have a "client/server" split Access 2003 database with an Interface file containing all the code/forms/queries and some system tables and also a Data Backend file, with all the data tables and table structure.
This is being deployed to multiple sites, each getting their own version of the backend, so sites will not be using the same backend between them all, rather multiple users in each site will all share that site's backend file.
Since users will deploy in different network locations, etc. they will have to re-link all tables. Is there a meaningful/user-friendly way of doing that without relying on user's knowledge of "Linked Table manager", etc.?
Thanks!
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Sep 17, 2014
My db is split into front-end and back-end. In the f-e's Relationships schematic, I can see the relationships as they were defined at the time when the db was split, complete with the one-to-many symbology.
I can add a new table to the b-e and set its relationship as one-to-many, enforcing referential integrity and cascading as I wish - and the schematic (in the b-e) reflects that.
In the f-e, I can then use the <Get External Data - Access Database> function to link to the new table, and I can add the new table to the relationships diagram in the f-e. I can also drag and drop to link primary and foreign keys (within the f-e), but cannot select one-to-many. I'm OK with that, as I understand that the relationship is within the b-e, and this is just a diagrammatic representation.
But I can see the one-to-many relationships between the tables which existed when the db was split, and I would like to be able to see the new table's relationships in a consistent fashion. Updating the linked tables via the Linked Table Manager does not do the trick.
Surely I don't have to split the database again in order to achieve a consistent diagram - do I ?
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Dec 7, 2007
Hi.
I'm about to move to a back end / front end system, from a single database file. Before I do so, I want to make sure I have all bases covered so to speak.
My back end file will reside on a server. I am aware that path names are sometimes changed by network administrators without warning.
From tests, I notice that, if the path to the back end can't be found, one cannot open the front end database file at all (Access 2003).
My question is: if my back end file gets moved, or the path changed, how can I get into my front end file to update the linked tables.
Many thanks in advance.
Mat.
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Jul 6, 2015
I have a split database and need a field (Combo type) in the table to lookup values from a query in the front end. How do I do this as it doesn't see the querys because the front and back end are split?
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Dec 27, 2013
I am creating a database that tracks current projects for my team at work.
Some projects are only due once (e.g., mailed brochures due on 1/1/14) and some are due at scheduled intervals (e.g., status report due monthly, quarterly, etc.)
Ultimately, I'm hoping that my end result will allow us to click on a form and look at what everybody has due that day, in the next 7 days, and so forth.
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Dec 1, 2005
hi,
i have a many to many relationship setup
TABLE A
TABLE B
TABLE AB - LINKER
i have made a form via the wizard that displays table A stuff and then table B stuff in subform
however theres seems to be a problem as when i enter a record into the subform i.e. table B the linker table Ab is not being updated so when i close the form and go back to it the record in the subform disappears despite the fact that it does exist in the table.
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May 29, 2014
I have two tables of data, each relating to three business branches (branches A, B and C).
Table 1 shows the expenditure of each branch (by fuel, premises and wages).
Table 2 shows a number of units for each branch (mileage, floorspace and sales).
What I would like to do is calculate unit costs, based on the expenditure in Table 1, divided by a relevant unit in Table 2. The catch is that I want to have a third table which allows the user to specify which expenditure (from Table 1) is combined with which unit (from Table 2) to generate the calculated unit costs. I've been able to do this in Excel, and have attached an example. I've also attached an incomplete Access version with the first two tables. Given the complexity of my actual data, I feel this could be better handled in Access than Excel.
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May 5, 2013
I have 3 tables.
Table 1: contains staff names and contact numbers
Table 2: contains training above staff have been on or need to go on
Table 3: contains pc and printer asset numbers of above staff
I used a form and entered some new members of staff in table 1. They got their auto numbers etc but when I open table 2 and table 3 those new members are not showing up in those tables. I have checked the relationship status between the 3 tables and the staffID from Table 1 is associated to table 2 and to table 3.
What's stopping the new entries from showing up in tables 2 and 3 ?
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Oct 12, 2005
I have created an Access 2000 Db, and have gone through the motions of splitting the Db via the Splitting Tool. Since I have done this split, I have added forms, queries, and reports to the Front End. I have left the Back end table structures alone.
This is where my problem comes into play. To enter data into the Db, I use the forms. After splitting the Db, I assumed that the data would be stored in the tables in the BE. An issue had just presented itself and I went into the BE table structure to add a field to a couple of the tables, and when I opened the BE table in the datasheet view, I noticed that there were no records. I then became curious because when I run my reports and queries, the information is present. So I opened the FE tables and what do you know, all the data I have input since the split is housed in the FE tables.
I already attempted to Update the Table Links, but that did not solve the problem, and the data is still in the FE.
Can someone, anyone please help or offer some suggestions on how to resolve this dilemna.
Thank you in advance,
DtF
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Nov 28, 2012
I have access that is required to be accessed by multiple users and register their activities which is reflected with the tables in the background and form sends also the time that they are putting their activities.
So i split the tables and put them in a share folder in one of the PCs. however, the problem is about the timing and dates is not correct usually, and i found out some of the PCs their dates are not on sync. I asked and found out sometimes it is required to change the timing in their PCs.
Therefore, i was wondering instead of fetching the timing from their PCs why not to put the timing of share PC (i.e. timing/Date of the share PC which has the splitted tables)
so can i do like this:
User PC: (Form1) & user activity => Share PC: (Split table) & take time of the share
How can i do that?!
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Aug 28, 2006
Hey,
The database I am working on, I split a while ago to give it some security. Now i'm updating a related form, and i'm finding that if I delete and add fields in the BE, the FE fields (being the fields that I need to insert into the form so the data entered propogates to the DB) are not updated.
How do I update the FE?
Thanks.
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Jan 12, 2006
:confused: I have read a quite a few threads on spiting the database. My database is 50 Meg and running very slow. I have compacted and repair, still the same. This just happen all of sudden. Could that be possible?. What should I look out before I try to spit it?. It’s given that I will make a backup. I am running Access 2003. I have over 150 users.
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Aug 12, 2006
I am almost at the finishing line with a great deal of help from here.
I have now normalised the tables, built complicated queries, forms, reports, all from scratch as I knew absolutely nothing before I started with Access three months ago.
I have compacted and repaired the database using the wizard, and also complied the code and analyzed all tables, forms, queries, and reports and relationships.
The final step is to make it an MDE file so that it can go on the local network at work (not on the internet).
My questions are these;
Do I need to split the database into front and back ends?
If I save a copy of the original MDB file and then make it a MDE file would that not suffice in making it run more efficiently?
Can a split MDB database be made into an MDE database?
Any advice, as always, is most welcome.
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Nov 21, 2006
I have a database that resides on a file server share. I have split the database to create a backend. I then posted a shortcut of the front end to the desktops of two users who have access to the share. I then tried to access the front end from the two machines simultaneously. It opened on the first PC but not the second? When I viewed the server share it had a 'padlock' icon?
Where am I going wrong? This is the first time I have attempted this scenario!!
Thanks in advance,
Phil
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Dec 21, 2006
Hello,
Should splitting only be done when all tables,queries,forms,reports, etc. are done. Or can it be done anytime. I am almost to that stage but didnt want to jump the gun and run into problems later on.
Thanks.
I will have about 20 users sharing this.
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Dec 27, 2006
I was having a discussion with Rickster57 concerning my newly developed database, and he recommended that I split it so that it has a front end and a back end. Rick listed a number of very good reasons for doing this (so I will definitely do it). But I wanted to pose the question so I could get some of the reasons the more seasoned Access programmers have for creating a front and back end to their programs.
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Jun 29, 2007
I recently split my database and also used Bob Larson's Autoupdating tool. Everything appeared to be working fine until a few users were unable to access the db. I later found out that because they are at a different site, they don't map to the server that houses the database BE. However, even if they manually map to the correct server, they are unable to bring up the db Form. They get an error stating the BE "...is not a valid path". My questions are:
1) If I were to copy all the files (the Master FE, BE, and MDE) to a public folder that ALL users have access to, will everyone be able to bring up the database Form?
2) How would this affect what was already set up when I ran Bob Larson's utility (or even the splitting and MDE creation)?
3) Is there a way to "Undo" what was previously "Done" to this database (ie: Splitting, Larson Utility, MDE creation) in order to correct the issue, or do I need to start from scratch and split the database while it's on a Public drive.
I hope this makes sense. Thanks in advance for your help.
Michael
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Jul 2, 2007
Hi!
I just want to know that " How to split the Access database in Front End and Back End application"? I am creating a database that i want to store on server and simultaneously want to give access to 20 terminals (cleints) to access the database.
Secondly, I have to provide a field in a form "Document number". However as per the requirement user can enter "PIR No", "Serial No" or at times both as document number. Both the things "PIR No" and "Serial No" have different format types like "PIR No 001" and "Srl No001".
On basis of document number later i have to give the option to search the particular document. Please guide me how to provide the option to enter the field values.
Appreciate any help on above.
Regards,
Nick
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