@@IDENTITY Alternative
Dec 30, 2007
Hi everyone,
I'm trying to come up with a replacement for @@IDENTITY, because I have SQL code I want to make more portable.
Original:
ID = MyDataLayer.Execute("INSERT INTO X(a,b,c) VALUES(A,B,C); SELECT @@IDENTITY")
Proposed solution:
lock(MyDataLayer)
ID = MyDataLayer.Execute("SELECT MAX(id)+1 FROM X")
if(ID==null) ID=1
MyDataLayer.Execute("INSERT INTO X(id,a,b,c) VALUES(ID,A,B,C)")
unlock(MyDataLayer)
(This is of course pseudocode, for SQL Server I'd need SET IDENTITY_INSERT.)
Do you think the preceding solution is equivalent to the original?
Do you know something better?
Equivalent should mean here, not necessarily generating the same ID's,
but maintaining functionality and consistence all over the database.
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Aug 20, 2007
I have a SSIS package that imports an Excel file using Visual Basic 2005 into my SQL 2005 database. All the fields are the same in the DB and xls. The package runs with no problem but I need one of the fields to be autoincrement. I tried to set up the properties of one of my fields "ID" to be an Identity. This didn't seem to work at all. There are about 1300 records in the DB so far with the last "ID" number being 10001415. Before now, the numbers were inputed manually. I want the "ID" to be assigned when the SSIS package imports the xls file.
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One of the kernel components of our application(s) is the concept of using surrogate keys (aka system assigned keys [SAKs]) for significant tables. We chose early on not to use IDENTITY due to limitations of cross-DBMS compatibility and @@identity retrieval issues relating to trigger value resets.
We are now in the process of reengineering our own "System Counter" scheme. Our current scheme runs in the user's transaction space (not using an identity column, but a separate "counters" table) -- we're running into performance problems in high concurrency situations as the counters table is holding locks for the duration of a user's transaction (e.g. if the insert trigger on one row's insert inserts rows into a log table which must fetch counters first, the counter rows are locked until the original insert is committed).
Our best performing solution currently is using an extended SP which opens its own connection, gets the counter then closes the connection (running quick this way, running in its own transaction space, it doesn't cause concurrency blocks from the longer running outer user transaction). It appears to work very well (with "pooled connections" its taking appx. 2ms to run) and is easy to use (e.g. a "black box solution"). However we're still considering using IDENTITY to avoid the extra DB connections that are taken up from the middle-tier solution.
Does anyone have experiences working with this topic, that you could share?
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There is another alternative ... if you are using MSCRM 3.0
follow this steps
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2. Navigate to your datasource --> HOME > <<Datasource>>
3. At the top tab select Properties
4. Make sure that there is a user role call "NT AUTHORITYNETWORK SERVICE" thus apply the appropiate roles for it
Vula....!!!!!
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While I have learned a lot from this thread I am still basically confused about the issues involved.
.I wanted to INSERT a record in a parent table, get the Identity back and use it in a child table. Seems simple.
To my knowledge, mine would be the only process running that would update these tables. I was told that there is no guarantee, because the OLEDB provider could write the second destination row before the first, that the proper parent-child relationship would be generated as expected. It was recommended that I create my own variable in memory to hold the Identity value and use that in my SSIS package.
1. A simple example SSIS .dts example illustrating the approach of using a variable for identity would be helpful.
2. Suppose I actually had two processes updating these tables, running at the same time. Then it seems the "variable" method will also have its problems. Is there a final solution other than locking the tables involved prior to updating them or doing something crazy like using a GUID for the primary key!
3. We have done the type of parent-child inserts I originally described from t-sql for years without any apparent problems. (Maybe we were just lucky.) Is the entire issue simply a t-sql one or does SSIS add a layer of complexity beyond t-sql that needs to be addressed?
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GO
SET QUOTED_IDENTIFIER ON
GO
CREATE PROCEDURE [dbo].[GetProjectInfo]
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AS
BEGIN
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TableName FieldName Xpos Ypos
---------- --------- ----- -----
FruitTable FruitName 10 20
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---------- --------- ----- ----- ---------
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Main query:Select
TableName, FieldName, Xpos, Ypos,
dbo.GetFieldValue(TableName, FieldName) As FieldValue
From
tblFieldAndPosition---------------Function: CREATE FUNCTION GetFieldValue (@TableName nvarchar(255),@FieldName nvarchar(255))
RETURNS nvarchar(255)
AS
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sp_executesql @SQL??
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<Store1>
<sale>
<productid>123</productid>
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<time>12:00</time>
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<clockedin>
<salesperson>bob</bob>
<time>11:45</time>
</login>
etc....
</Store1>
My database tables are as follows:
table1
id (identity field - primary key)
storeid (varchar)
event (varchar)
time (datetime)
table 2
id *
name (varchar) *
value (varchar)
* primary key
Using the above xml data example, my records would look like this in the tables:
Table 1
id: 1
StoreID: Store1
Event: sale
Time: 12:00
id: 2
StoreID: Store1
Event: clockedin
Time: 11:45
Table 2
id: 1
Name: productid
Value: 123
id: 1
Name: salesperson
Value: bob
id: 2
Name: salesperson
Value: bob
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I know this is a mess, but they set up this environment before I got there. There is a very minute chance I may get another SQL server, which is why I ask question 1. But I have to move forward with question 2 until I can confirm another box is possible.
1) Is transactional replication possible if the subscriber is in a failover
cluster?
1b) Am I correct in the idea that the publisher and the distributor can live
on the same SQL Server.
2) Transactional replication aside... do you know an alternative to it?
Here' s my situation. I wish they would have consulted with me prior to
setting this up but nonetheless...I have a database cluster with 2 servers
in it. Failover setup between them. The staging database and production
database live on the same SQL server. When data is written to, or updated on the staging database, I need to replicate it to the production database. I obviously can't setup transactional replication when I virtually only have one server to work with.
>> Individual triggers are out because there are 38 tables and I would need a trigger for each action. SO that's approx 114 triggers. Not viable or safe and just plain wrong.
>> I've considered kicking off a DTS package that will copy the table up but then I would need 38 DTS pkgs. And I don't want to copy the whole database every time for obvious performance issues.
>> I've considered modifying the code in their software so that it reruns
their DB update object after I temporarily change the data source... which is a great alternative, except then I have to worry about data integrity; making sure the primary keys match between staging and production.
Thanx for any input or any ideas beyond what I've written.
Egotistical slander not welcome.
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