2005 System Tables: Where Are They
Nov 7, 2007
In previous versions we could query the system tables to get metadata.
In SQL 2005 they seem to be hidden. They are there. You can query them, but I can't find them.
Question: Is there any way to see them in SSMS?
Yeah, I know you aren't supposed to, but hey, they are usefull and I like them.
Microsoft has given us a confusing collection of alternatives for finding metadata;
System views, Catalog Views, Dynamic Management Views, Compatibility Views, Information_schema views.
I have tried to organize some thoughts on what these are and here is what I make of them.
If any of this is in error, I would like some corrections.
SYSTEM VIEW - the stuff below and more. Shows system information.
...CATALOG VIEW - is a system view on the system tables
...DYNAMIC MANAGEMENT VIEW - is a system view on system tables and various buffers for current status info.
...COMPATIBILITY VIEW - is a system view which shows ONLY 2000 information. It is there for compatibility.
...INFORMATION_SCHEMA VIEW - each database has it's own set. Holds db-level metadata.
Hayden
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Dec 26, 2007
Hi all,
Iam reading this forum from some time but its my first post here
Today i found by accictend this really nice PDF poster with SQL 2005 internal System Tables and thought that maybe someone here will be interested having it.
Poster is really huge, just like db schema on it ;)
But ok no more words, just grab it from here if You want http://rapidshare.com/files/79265626/sql.2005.sys.tables.pdf
Regards, Tom
PS.
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2. If someone from admins think that its not good forum for this post pleas move it to somewhere that it best fits.
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Jan 16, 2007
Hi ,
I need help regarding list of all sql server 2005 system tables
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Jul 20, 2005
Hi,I have a few things on my databases which seem to be neither true systemobjects or user objects - notably a table called 'dtproperties' (createdby Enterprise manager as I understand, relating to relationship graphingor something) and some stored procs begining with "dt_" (some kind ofsource control stuff, possible visual studio related). These show up whenI use"exec sp_help 'databaseName'"but not in Ent. Mgr. or in Query Analyzer's object browser, and also notin a third party tool I use called AdeptSQL. I am wondering how thosetools know to differentiate between these types of quasi-system objects,and my real user data. (This is for the purpose of a customized schemagenerator I am writing). I'd prefer to determine this info with systemstored procs (ie sp_help, sp_helptex, sp_...etc) but will dip into thesystem tables if needed.Thanks,Dave
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Apr 3, 2007
Ok guys, I am trying to install Sql server 2005 on Vista but I am still stuck with this warning message in the System Configuration Check during Sql server 2K5 installation :
SQL Server Edition Operating System Compatibility (Warning)
Messages
* SQL Server Edition Operating System Compatibility
* Some components of this edition of SQL Server are not supported on this operating system. For details, see 'Hardware and Software Requirements for Installing SQL Server 2005' in Microsoft SQL Server Books Online.
Now, I know I need to install SP2 but how the hell I am going to install SP2 if Sql server 2005 doesn't install any of the components including Sql server Database services, Analysus services, Reporting integration services( only the workstation component is available for installation)?
Any work around for this issue?
P.S.: I didn't install VS.NET 2005 yet, can this solve the problem?
Thanks.
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Jan 26, 2001
Hi All
I want to know where I can find Object permission detailes, For example
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Thanks in Advance
Regards
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Can somebody whose done this before tell me how to do it.
Many Many thanks,
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Hello,
I've one Sybase DBA asking this question, Is this really true, Pls help me.
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Thanks
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Hi Gurus,
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Hello all.
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Hi,
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I'm using the system tables to identify these changes, and it is something that I'll have to repeat across all our databases in case the tables are being accessed from elsewhere.
I'd like to make sure I'm doing it the right way so could someone point me in the direction of a good article or code for doing this.
thanks
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Jul 20, 2005
I dont want to see these at all and cannot find where tospecify a view or modification of a view. can someone throw me abone here and tell me where to make the adjustments if I can make themat allMichael
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Oct 26, 2006
Hello,
I have created a linked server XYZ that is linked to server ABC. I am tying to view the tables via XYZ but I'm unable to do so. I can only see the system tables. When I run a select statement, I get the correct results. That means I have the access to the tables, yet why am I not able to see the tables.
Please assist
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Dec 24, 2007
Hello,
Is it possible to:
Add a system table using smo (or at all)?
Add new rows to a system table?
Thanks,
Assaf
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Hello,
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Thanks
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HI all,
I need to understand a little bit more about SQL Server built in tables. For example in Oracle if I need to check for tables names under one database. The query will be something like this:
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How can I do this in sql server 7?
I know there is a table called sysobjects. The sysobject will give me all the objects in the database but how can I specify wether its a table or a column. More over can someone refer me a good book for sql server 7. Both development and administration.
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regards
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Is there a way to hide the system tables on EM?
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Where can I see system tables in SSMS?
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I think, therefore I am - Rene Descartes
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