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I have just installed SQL Server Express 2005 to get around the 2Gb database size limits under Access 2003. My simple 2Gb Access database (simple meaning only 10 tables with 2-10 fields each, vast majority of the data in one of them and mainly Long Integers) became nearly 4Gb when migrated using SSMA - not great when the SQL Server Express database limit is 4Gb. Shrinking makes no difference.

Can anyone suggest why in general a SQL Server Express database would be nearly twice the size as its Access equivalent. Are there some useful tricks or techniques to reduce the apparently massive overhead?

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