4 Seperate Tables Or One Large Table?
May 10, 2008
I have 4 tables with the respective amount of records
1) 6755
2) 2021
3) 2021
4) 355
They all have the same columns. However, they need to be seperate, or at least when I query them. I'll be accessing this database via the web. i was first afraid that a large database would cause major slow down when accessing the db. So I broke it up into 4 tables. If I combined all 4 tables into one large table and just had a column that differentiated the 4, how significant would be the change in speed when accessing the table? It's not a big deal to keep them seperate, its just that when I have to add or remove a column from one table I have to remove it from all the tables. Furthermore, I'm using a module from DEVEXPRESS, don't know if anyone has heard of it, but when you use a gridview, it loads up the entire table even though your paging (which I think is retarded), so for that reason I was afraid it would slow up my access to the db. Any thoughts?
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Apr 13, 2007
Hello,
I don't know if this could be done, but I will present this question...
I have an employee_table with empid, firstName, lastName, phExt columns.
I have another table called location_table that contains locationID, locationName, locPhext.
Here is the dataset from the 2 tables...
From Employee Table....
empid firstName lastName phExt
1 Ann Smith 1234
2 Barb Jones 4567
3 Jeff Teeves 8901
From Location Table
locationID locationName locPhext
1 Computer Room 3245
2 Board Room 1 8745
3 Conference Room 1 4564
Here is the data that I would like to pull in this format...
Ann Smith 1234
Barb Jones 4567
Board Room 1 8745
Computer Room 3245
Conference Room 1 4564
Jeff Teeves 8901
What SQL script could I use to produce the above results?
Thanks in advance
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Dec 11, 2004
Hi all,
I want to produce some output for Mainframe application. For that I want to insert values from multiple table as source to a single column (huge in size)of a different table (Destination table). There may be same related records in all of the source tables with the primary key. When I export values from the source tables , each related records should be insterted to the destination table's field (multiple entries for each table). Please advise.
Thanks
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Aug 4, 2005
I have a few hundred users, maybe a dozen or two active at any given time, accessing the same database via ASP. The database has many tables, one being a very large orders table with a few million records, in which I have created a view against. A view only because I need to allow the user to filter quite extensively against the results. The users typically only need to view records for the last 30 days and results for each user might be five thousand records or less.
My question is this. Would I be better off writing each user's resultset to a temp table for that user's session and allow the filtering and sorting by the user go against that temp table and increase my hardware requirements to accomodate that. Possibly to the point of creating a database cluster. OR would I be better off leaving it as is where each users uses the same view.
FYI...each user may need visibility to only a hand full of fields, but over all the view must maintain many fields.
Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Dave
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May 22, 2008
My boss has asked me to look into this and I haven't been able to find any information on the web. I hope someone can answer this for me. We currently have a single database that is storing all the user information and transactions. Within the same database we are also logging different types of user activity. If both these tables are heavily used, would it make sense to separate it into different database, one for data and one for logging? Is there any pro or cons of having more than one database? Any opinion or suggestion would be greatly appreciated. I'm the closest thing they have to DBA and I'm really new to this. Thanks.
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Jul 20, 2005
Does anyone have any idea how to syncronise two SQL identical tables acrossa network, between servers?We want to run our website from a SQL tables on the same server, but set upso that if the main SQL tables across the network change, or the tables onthe web server change, the two seperate servers willsyncronise/update/trigger updates to the tables on each other?We are running SQL server 2000.AHAJohn
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Feb 11, 2014
Other than right-clicking on each individual table in SSMS and generating a CREATE script, is there a simple way to generate CREATE TABLE scripts for tables within a given database?
Background: I have a bunch of tables in one database, and I would like to add tables to a second database that have the same names and basic structures of some of the tables from the first database.
I do not need to transfer any data from the tables, this is a seperate project that will use a similar data structure. I just want to generate the CREATE TABLE scripts for 30ish tables within the first database, and then I'll tweak the scripts as appropriate and run them against the new database.
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Apr 12, 2006
Hi folks, I've got a fairly easy one here me thinx. I'm looking for the best way to compare two entire rows from two seperate tables which have the same primary key.
Here's the basic lowdown:
I get some data every night from an external system (cache') via DTS. This is more or less my "master" data which drives my application. I have just been informed of an interesting constraint. If any of the data changes in the external system, those changes do not become effective until the first day of the ensuing fiscal quarter.
I'm solving this by running the DTS as normal, but populating a "duplicate" table which I will evaluate once per quarter for any changes. This is also the preferred solution because they would like to see a snapshot between current cache' data and the data my application is currently working with.
So, I end up with two identically structured tables. both tables have the same primary key and can be linked by an id field with relative ease. What I would like to do is a full row comparision once this join is established.
Right now I explicitly check the value of each column. ie:
WHERE t1.field1 <> t2.field1 OR t1.field2 <> t2.field2 OR t1.field3 <> t2.field3 ... etc
I'm hoping there is something buried in TSQL that I just don't know about that can handle comparing entire rows and tell me if they're different. Or perhaps there's another approach all-together.
Any thoughts?
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Mar 20, 2008
Hello,
I have two databases in sql server. I'll call them DB1 and DB2. I have a table in DB2 that needs to form a relationship with a table in DB1. When I attempt to add a relationship I only see tables in DB2. Can this be done?
Thanks,
Mark
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Jan 28, 2008
Hi!
I have a big database which need some separation
in multiple filegroups.
Therefore I plan to move tables to new filegroups.
As I can understand this must be done by
dropping the clustered index and
recreating it on new filegroup, then data will move.
1. best way to get a list of all clustered indexes (sys.indexes)?
2. how to get index scripts? (using SSMS, right click is manual task, but I need scripts for than 100 tables)
3. when having the scripts it should be easy to replace filegroup part
4. after movement: just shrinking old files?
Thanks for help ;-)
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Mar 24, 2007
Hello.
I just created separate tables for each of my categories and wanted to know how to return them all to be viewed on one page using the SQL Datasource (or whatever) This is for user accounts. I just need to know that part.
Sincerely,
Computergirl
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May 25, 2007
Hi, this is my first post to this forum so thank you all in advance..
I am trying to design a database to store information about the Specification required by each customer. And the main problem I am having is how to store 2 instants of ContactID (from CustomerContacts table) in a seperate table called CustomerSpec.
For example each Customer has many contacts,(the Customer data is stored in a table called Customers which has a one to many relationship with the CustomerContacts table) each customer has one and only one Customer spec, and each customer spec needs to have 2 customer contacts, ie. one for Artwork and one production. (it should also be possible to have the same contact for both Artwork and production).
The problem is how to associate these contactId's with the customer spec...(if there was only one Contact per spec I could simply link the CustomerContacts table with the CustomerSpec table and drop ContactID into CustomerSpec as a foreign key.. But I am stuck to how to save more than one ID..
Can you help please..
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Jul 12, 2001
We currently have a data warehouse running on SQL 7.0, SP2. One of our primary fact tables is now well over 155 million rows in it. The table is not very wide, as it only contains 17 columns, most of which are defined as integers. The entire database is only 20 GB.
The issue is that the loads from the staging table to this fact table have significantly deteriorated over the last month or so, dropping from over 400 transactions per second to around 85. We drop all the indexes on the fact table before we load the data into it.
Are there issues with a manageable table size in SQL 7.0 that we need to be concerned about? And should we consider partitioning the table into several smaller tables and join them with a "union all" view?
I really need to get this performance issue resolved, as our IT support vendor is pushing us to port the data warehouse to UDB because they tell us that SQL server is not scalable enough to handle this volume of data.
Thanks for any help you can provide.
George M. Parker
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Aug 10, 2000
Hi,
How can i partition the large tables so that the insert and updates which iam doing on the tables take less time.
I want to know how can i partition large tables and if i do that how is that the performance is going to be increased.
Thanks.
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Mar 13, 2001
How can I find largest 5 or 10 tables in a database?
Thanks in advance
Chan
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Mar 7, 2007
Hi there,i am having some problem related to SQL server........ Actually i am having a table called ZipCodes that have around 80,000 rows... and the size of the table is around 100 MB...... and my table is now on web Server,. now my problem is that when i fire some query that needs to go through whole of the table then it estimated time to execute the query comes to be 13 seconds and the corsor threshold is set to 7 seconds (and i can't change that)....... so the SQL server cancels the query to be fired........Now i need some Methodology/Technique through which i can search Large Tables with minimum calculations in minimum Time............(Any Ideas)....
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Mar 19, 2001
Is it possible to compress the large tables in the database,
like COMPRESS, ARCHIVE options we use to reduce the size of files
stored on any operating system.
I know there is a difference between the file stored on disk and the table created in the database, but currently I am facing space problems wherein, I have to manage my database within the space available, so please advice me if the option is available in SQL Server 6.5 or 7.
I will be happy if I get the solution immediatly as currently I am facing this problem and waiting for your reply.
Thank you
Amol
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Feb 12, 2008
I am fairly new to SQL, so please forgive me if my question is a bit elementary. I need to pull two individual tables out of a massive DB into a new DB for testing.
Thanks for the help.
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Feb 15, 2008
I'm in the midst of a long file conversion job. Today I found that one of the tables (converted from csv) to be 6.7 million records. My sql script which I use to reconfigure the weird original date format, into something the rest of the planet uses, times out due to the size.
Does anyone please know of a file utility to automagically split sql server 2005 tables for later re-combining once my scripts have successfully completed their task on the smaller tables?
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Nov 14, 2007
I am making a warehouse managment system. The system will cotain much data, but only a small portion of the data will be accessed frequently. Most of the data will only be accessed seldomly, but the customer wants to keep all historic data (just in case they should need it sometime). I have figured I need to partion the tables somehow to keep what is fresh in one place, and historical data in another place. What is the best way to do this? I am thinking about making historical tables. For example I can have a table named PickList and another table named PickListHistorical. When a picklist is processed/complete I can move it over to the PicklistHistorical table, but when the users need to search for a specific picklist I have to look in both tables. I can ofcourse create a view for this to make it transparant. Sql server 2005 introduced some automatically partioning. Will it be better to use this than create my own historic tables? If so, can you please tell me how I do it?
Thank you!
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Oct 19, 2007
I've successfully created SSIS packages where I compare two tables in different databases on different servers. However, this is good enough to compare hundreds of thousands of records quickly. The process becomes a huge performance problem when trying to compare table differences when I'm looking at tables that each contain tens of millions of records.
One database is on a SQL 2005 box and the other DB is SQL 7.0 so the lookup component fails for this type of SQL Server. I've been implementing merge joins and conditional components to do my standard table comparisons.
Is there another way to implement this process or maybe partition it somehow to take pieces of the table at a time and compare them? I'm open to ideas.
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Jan 9, 2008
I'm using DataAdapters with my SQL database with the intention of all the SELECT, UPDATE, INSERT, DELETE commands to be automatically generated.One table is huge so I'm wondering is it more efficient to "SELECT Top(1) * FROM hugetable" instead of "SELECT * FROM hugetable" in order to facilitate the generation of commands.I hope this isn't too confusing.Thanks,Geoff
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Nov 29, 2000
We are inserting into a table, which includes an identity primary key column. When the table gets really large (i.e. 1.5 million records), the performance of the inserts reduce.
I noticed that when we insert into the table an exclusive lock on the table is obtained. Do inserts into tables with identities always lock the table?
Given the table size is unavoidable, does anyone have a suggestion to improve the performance?
Thanks,
Matt
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Jan 25, 2008
Hi gurus, I'm creating a web application where I will have a large number of tables (between 10k and 20k), this is done for the sake of scalability as tables will be moved to different database servers as the application grows and also for performance (smaller indexes). I'm worried though how having a large number of tables could affect the performance of SQL Server as the application will start on one single database server. I tried to find some resources on that on the internet but couldn't find any.
I would really appreciate if you can give me some advice and if you have any good links that would be great...
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Nov 1, 2007
I have the following table structure:
tableA (~85,000 rows) primary key = [colA,colB]
tableB (~850,000 rows) primary key = [colA,colC]
tableC (~120,000,000 rows) primary key = [colA,colB,colC]
IMPORTANT: colC is DATETIME
For a SET of rows in tableA (about 50,000) I need to pull the MOST RECENT (given a date) corresponding values from tables B and C. The only way I can think of doing this is the following:
SELECT tableA.colA
,(SELECT TOP 1 colX FROM tableB WHERE colA = tableA.colA AND colC <= @INPUTDATE ORDER BY colC desc)
,(SELECT TOP 1 colY FROM tableB WHERE colA = tableA.colA AND colC <= @INPUTDATE ORDER BY colC desc)
,... --some more columns from tableB
,(SELECT TOP 1 colX FROM tableC WHERE colA = tableA.colA AND colB = tableA.colB AND colC <= @INPUTDATE ORDER BY colC desc)
,(SELECT TOP 1 colY FROM tableC WHERE colA = tableA.colA AND colB = tableA.colB AND colC <= @INPUTDATE ORDER BY colC desc)
,... --some more columns from tableC
FROM tableA
WHERE tableA.colX = 'some criteria'
Is there any other way anyone can suggest? Unfortunately, because tableC is so large, the disk IO (I think) causes this query to take over an hour. (If I had monster RAM and super fast disk this wouldn't be as big an issue, but that's not an option right now )
Thanks in advance!
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Jan 25, 2008
Hi gurus, I'm creating a web application where I will have a large number of tables (between 10k and 20k), this is done for the sake of scalability as tables will be moved to different database servers as the application grows and also for performance (smaller indexes). I'm worried though how having a large number of tables could affect the performance of SQL Server as the application will start on one single database server. I tried to find some resources on that on the internet but couldn't find any.
I would really appreciate if you can give me some advice and if you have any good links that would be great...
Waleed Eissa
http://www.waleedeissa.com
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Dec 5, 2007
Hi,
I have a table with over 61 million records having a clustered index on an identity column(Primary key). Simple count queries are taking minutes to execute on this table (ex: select count(1) from table1). I have checked the statistics on the primary key which displayed me the histogram having the 39th million record as the Range-hi-key. I updated the statistics on this column and tried requerying, but still it took atleast 5 minutes to give me the count of records in the table. Also, there were no users using the table when I queried. Inserts into this table were working fine. I have other tables in my database with 41 million records having no such issues. Can anyone point me to the problem areas in such scenarios?
Thanks,
Harish
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Jan 2, 2003
What is the best procedure/sequence to reduce some tables containing large number of rows of
a SQL 2000 server?
The idea is first to check which tables grow extremely fast (all statistics, user or log tables), reduce the table
according to the number of months the user wishes to keep in the table.
As a second step backup remaining rows of table as txt files on harddisk (using DTS), UPDATE STATISTICS and re-indexing reduced table.
Run DTS Package every month once (delete oldest month and backup newest month) and do the same as above to keep size of tables adequate.
What is a fast way to reduce number of rows of a large table - the following example produces an error (timeout expired) of my
ADO connection when executing:
SET @str = 'DELETE FROM ' + @ProcessTable + ' WHERE ' + @SelectedColumn + ' < DATEADD (m,' +' -' +
@KeepMonthsInDatabase + ',
+ GETDATE())'
EXEC (@str)
Adding ConnectionTimout = 0 did not help unfortunately.
What is the best way to re-index the table just maintained?
Thanks
mipo
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Mar 8, 2014
We are having very big tables in TBS and wanted to setup a strategy for index maintenance.
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Jul 7, 2015
I have come across a database system which isn't designed to work optimally. It is fairly large (~400GB) and performance of loading and querying is degrading (improper data types, fragmented indexes, non unique clustering key and other problems). So, I have quite a task in front of me, but I am up for the challenge. I figure this is not a unique situation, many of us would have come across this before. I have done this before too, but only for smaller databases, some of the operations here I expect to take a couple of hours or more to complete (depending on load/infrastructure speed etc, I know).
My plan is thus:
+ Take a full backup of the database
+ Set the recovery model of the DB to simple
+ Drop non clustered indexes
+ Drop clustered indexes
+ Remove PKs (wrong data types, too large!)
+ Narrow data types (add new column, update column in batches to old value, rename new column to old column)
+ Add PKs, which will create clustered indexes automatically based on PK ID
+ Create non clustered indexes
+ Run a SHRINKDB (normal operations I would never do this, but this is a special case, ensure log file is truncated to a logical size especially after all those table modifications...)
+ Set the recovery model of the DB to Full
+ Ensure everything works OK or better
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Jul 14, 2015
How many no of records of the tables are called large tables.
We are getting more deadlocks. We are using default isolation. Read & insert statements are blocking each other and causes dead locks.
I am thinking that might be purging will reduce deadlocks.
The table has 15million records. Is this table consider as large table or not in OLTP systems?
In general how many records we need to consider as large table.
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Mar 28, 2006
We have a simple UPDATE query, joining two tables, that takes much longer than 10 hours to run, but if we break the table in six (10 million rows in each table), it takes only fifteen minutes to run each part.
Why? And how can we tell in advance whether a query will cross the threshold into l.o.n.g.r.u.n.n.i.n.g query? Or, how can we prevent it?
The system is Windows XP Pro with 4GB RAM (/3GB switch), and SQL Server Standard 2005. Log files, swap files, dbf files are on separate drives. The system is dedicated to SQL Server. No other queries are running at the same time. The database is in Simple logging mode. Each table is a few GB with 60 million rows.
An example problem query is: (updating fewer than 10 bytes)
UPDATE bigtable
SET bigtable.custage = scores.custage, bigtable.custscore = scores.custscore
FROM bigtable
JOIN t2 ON bigtable.custid = scores.custid
In this case, each table has 60 million rows. 'custid' is a sequential, unique integer. SCORES table is clustered on 'custid' and is 1.5GB in size. BIGTABLE has an index on 'custid', and is 6GB in size. There is a one-to-one match between the tables on 'custid', but not enforced. The SCORES table was created by exporting a few fields (but all 60 million records) from BIGTABLE, updating the values in a separate program, then importing back in SQL Server into the SCORES table.
The first time this query was run, we stopped it after it ran 16 hours. When we broke up the bigtable into 10 million record chunks (big1, big2, big3..., big6) each update only took 15 minutes, for 90 minutes total.
* How can in we tell in advance that the full chunk would take more than a few hours?
* Why is it taking SO MUCH LONGER than in smaller chunks?
* When a query is taking that long to run, is there any way to tell where in the plan it is?
* What should we do differently?
Thanks for any help; this is a real head scratcher for us.
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Sep 20, 2007
Hello,
I hope I am posting this in the right forum.
I am using tableDiff.exe to create a diff SQL script for a very large table (~4 million rows).
After a few minutes, I recieve a "System.OutOfMemoryException".
I have 4GB of ram on the machine executing the table diff.
The server is 32-bit, so adding ram is not an option.
I am executing the following command line:
Code Snippet
TableDiff.exe" -sourceserver "SERVER" -sourcedatabase "SourceDB" -sourcetable "Table1" -destinationserver "SERVER" -destinationdatabase "DestDB" -destinationtable "Table1" -f "C:TableDiffsTable1"
I have seen reports of other users executing tableDiff against 2million row tables.
Is there anyway to buffer tableDiff, so that I do not run out of memory on the server?
Could anything else be causing this error?
Thanks,
Dave
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