AWE/Lock Page In Memory Drawbacks? Min/Max Settings, Memory Issues
Oct 11, 2007
I've been researching AWE to determine if we should enable this for our environment.
Currently we have a quad core box with 4 gb of RAM (VMware). OS: Windows 2003 std, SQL Server 2005 std. 3GB is not set but will be as soon as we can perform maintenance on the server.
I have read mixed feedback on AWE, either it works great or grinds you to a hault. I would assume that the grinding to a hault is due to not setting the min/max values correctly or not enabling the lock page in memory setting.
We only have one instance of SQL on the server and this box won't be used for anything else aside from hosting SQL services. We do plan on running SSRS off of this server as well.
1. Will running SSRS and enabling AWE cause me problems? Will I have to reduce the max setting by the SSRS memory usage or will it share and play nice?
2. How do I go about setting the Max value? Should it be less than the physical RAM in the box? Right now its set to the default of 214748364, even if I don't enable AWE should this default value be changed?
3. It seems that even at idle the SQL server holds a lot of memory and the page file grows. If I restart the process in the morning, memory usage in taskmon is at 600mb or so. By the end of the day, its up around 2gb. How can I track down whats causing this, should this even concern me?
4. The lock Page in memory setting worries me. Everything I've read on this seems to give a warning about serious OS and other program support degradation. In some cases to the point where they have to restore the settings on the server before they can bring it back up. What are your thoughts on this.
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Jun 2, 2015
What is lock page memory. How it will work and why it will increase the performance.then what is the difference between setting the - max/Min server memory and Lock page memory
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Jan 31, 2008
I have an Active/Active/Passive cluster with 64GB RAM on each node running SQL 2000 EE, AWE is enabled as well as the PAE switch, all is dandy with that.
Question:
Should I configure each SQL Instance to have only a max mem usage of 32GB in the event both failover to the same node ? or will the memory allocation be handled without any issue if each node is configured to use 64GB ?
Thanks.
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Apr 17, 2008
So I'm in the middle of building SQL Server 2005 on my new cluster hardware. I've got all the goodies this time around -4x PowerEdge 68004x dual core x64 procs in each box32GB ram in each boxWindows Server 2k3 R2 Enterprise x64 SP2SQL 2005 Enterprise x64 SP2Active Active Active Passive cluster (4 boxes, 3 instances)dedicated data, log, and tempDB 4Gb 15k fiber channel SAN Volumes for each instanceNow, this is the first x64 box I've configured, so I'm looking for some optimization tips for a couple things.First one's memory. On our 32bit systems, I always added the /PAE switch to the boot.ini file and enable AWE in SQL Server. From what I'm reading, that's no longer needed with the enhanced memory addressing. Is that the case? Is there an MS best practices KB doc in regards to configuration? I can't find one.Also, should I set anything special pagefile-wise? I know the old mantra is 1.5x system memory, but that would create a 48GB page file. Our current cluster has 6GB of ram dedicated to each instance (2k) and Perfmon tells me it's barely touching the pagefile. I'm thinking of just leaving it default, but I want to know if there is a best practice that I'm missing. Again, I can't find an MS doc that addresses this particular scenario.
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Apr 4, 2008
I have SQL 2005 Enterprise 64bit SP2 on windows 2003 EE 64bit SP2 w/24gig memory. My problem is that it wont use more than 110mb of memory according to task manager processes and performance. I've tried messing with the min and max and rebooting each time I make the change and sill nothing. Currently Ive changed it back to default. The server shows up as 24gig so it is seeing the memory. Any ideas? I thought 64bit was supposed to be better about this kind of thing.
Also, AWE has always been unchecked as this is a 64bit box.
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Mar 29, 2008
Hello, I understand that we should use SSMS -> Server Properties -> Memory to put a cap on the SQL server memory usage, therefore it gives some space memory for OS, this is based on the fact if the max memory is not specified, SQL will use whatever available memory and eventually crash the system.
My question is that when a server has SSIS and SSAS services installed along with the SQL service. Would the max memory setting covers the SSIS and SSAS memory usage, or the SSIS and SSAS has to shared the memory with OS?
Thanks,
fshguo.
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Dec 25, 2007
Hi all,
We have SQL Server 2005 Entp 32-bit on Windows Server 2003 Entp.Edtion 64-bit. ( Total memory = 16 Gb)
1) So, in this case , do i need to enable AWE Configuration from SQL Server Side ( 32-bit).
And what settings( AWE, /PAE) i should enable on OS (i.e.) on Windows Server 2003 (64-bit) in boot.ini file.
Because right now, i dont see any switches in boot.ini file.
2) And with 16 GB of RAM, what should be the ideal setting for memory ( Min & Max).
Please give some ideas on this.
Thanks.
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Sep 8, 2015
We have a new set up on VM to run an application running 24*7 (migrated from SQL server 2008R2) with below configs:
1. OS- Windows server 2012 Standard 64 bit hosted on Virtual Machine
2. Memory 16 GB and Cores =4 with 2.4GhZ processor
3. SQL server 2012 SP2 , 64 bit Standard edition.
4. Total size of databases as of now 15 GB with biggest being 5 GB.
How should i go around in setting the MAX and MIN server memory settings. I have this set up for many of SQL 2005 and 2008R2 servers, but for 2012 i heard that things has slightly changed.
How should i start analyzing and setting the right value of this MAX and MIN?
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Nov 9, 2007
Hi,
I'm having trouble finding the optimum memory settings for SQL Server 2005. I have 4 instances running on a macine with 8 dual-core processors and 18GB of RAM. I have tried the following memory settings so far:
No maximum - one instance used about 12GB of RAM so then the others struggled
Maximum of 4GB each (2GB left for Windows) - meant that 3 instances could be using 1GB each and then another at 4GB and needing more whilst 9GB sat unused.
Minimum of 2GB each - one instance would use up 10GB and then never give any back to the other instances.
I also find that setting a maximum then just causes a high amount of paging. What I would like to do is have each instance use a minimum amount, say 1GB, and then have each instance use a maximum of 13GB (3GB for other 3 instances running at a minimum level and 2GB for Windows). This 13GB should then be released and allocated to another instance when necessary, assuming it is no longer all being used. I do not want paging to occur if an instance reaches 13GB.
How do I go about configuring SQL Server to behave like this? Is it possible?
Thanks.
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May 8, 2002
I have a remote site/SQL 2000 box that is not under our control. We have SQL 2000 Ent Edition up on a Win2000 box that has 8 gig of memory. We think their NT person setup the SQLExec account to have this right to Lock memory pages, but having trouble verifying this. AWE was enabled on SQL Server and has a max memory setting of 6 gig. It shows AWE enabled in the SQL error log. The box only has had a few users (and in some case only running perfmon) but has locked up on several occasions. Nothing in either WIn2000 log or SQL to show why. MY question after stating all these facts is that if we have AWE enabled,(and the boot.ini file is correct per Microsoft Specs) will AWE come up if the SQLExec does not have these rights. And if he doesn't have these rights could it come up and crash unexplained like this.
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May 18, 2007
All,
I have a new database server running W2K3/MSSQL2K5 x64. I read in BOL that you can use the Lock Pages in Memory option to improve performance on your database server. I did some research on the internet and some sources are stating that you can only use that option with MSSQL2K5 Enterprise but in BOL they state that you can use this option in Standard/Enterprise.
Can anyone confirm that "Lock Pages in Memory on x64 Standard" works in MSSQL2K5 Standard?
Thanks in advance for the help.
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Sep 29, 2015
On first Node A: The server has 16 GB of physical RAM.
On second Node B: The server has 10 GB of physical RAM.
Now, this being Active Active, Node A can be clustered on failure onto Node B..Now reporting server is configured under these two nodes, with defined MAX and MIN server memory of 12 as MAX and 0 is min IN GB.Now with this setting on SQL whenever the cluster moves, such config make OS goes low on node for 10 GB.I am only left with option of switching this MAX and MIN to a default setting or is there any other alternative such as script which can change this setting accordingly when cluster moves to respective server.
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Nov 9, 2007
Hey Folks -
I'm setting up a new production SQL 2005 64-bit server running on a dedicated Windows 2003 R2 Standard system w/8GB of RAM.
I've enabled the "Lock Pages in Memory" option (http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms190730.aspx) but when I run dbcc memorystatus all of my AWE counters show 0.
According to http://blogs.msdn.com/sqlprogrammability/:
"On 64 bit machines, execute 'dbcc memorystatus'. If the AWE Allocated memory is 0 then lock pages in memory privilege has not been granted to the service account or it has not taken effect. "
Does the "Lock Pages in Memory" option work on W2K3 R2 Standard? Just searching across the web I find different answers. In some places it clearly says that Lock Pages in Memory only works on W2K3 Enterprise systems. In other places it says that it should work on any Windows 2003 64-bit OS.
Does anyone have any ideas? Assuming we cannot "lock pages in memory" due to the Windows 2003 Standard OS, are there any other memory management recommendations out there?
thanks!
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Feb 6, 2008
I've read all the posts... set the security policy (for the service account running SQL Server) to lock pages in memory... ran gpupdate... still same error... HELP !!!!
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Jul 13, 2015
I am looking to test this feature - and the "Transaction Performance Collector" has recommended me a table to port to In-Memory OLTP.
I have now tried the "Table Memory Optimization Advisor" tool.
After a couple of tweaks to the table design - the tool is now passing validation but the tool is not allowing to progress to the next step:
Could it be down to not having enough memory? But would this not show in the advisor?
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Sep 28, 2007
Hello. I have received the follwoing error upon an attempt to Browse the Cube. All other tabs are functional, including the Calculations tab. We are running Windows Server 2003 SP2 and SQL Server 2005 SP2. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
**EDIT** - Have confirmed SP1 for VS2005 is installed both locally and on server, also.
Attempted to read or write protected memory. This is often an indication that other memory is corrupt. (Microsoft Visual Studio)
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Program Location:
at Microsoft.Office.Interop.Owc11.PivotView.get_FieldSets()
at Microsoft.AnalysisServices.Controls.PivotTableFontAdjustor.TransformFonts(Font font)
at Microsoft.AnalysisServices.Browse.CubeBrowser.UpdatePivotTable(Boolean translate)
at Microsoft.AnalysisServices.Browse.CubeBrowser.UpdateAll(Boolean translate)
at Microsoft.AnalysisServices.Browse.CubeBrowser.InitialUpdate()
at Microsoft.AnalysisServices.Browse.CubeBrowser.SupportFunctionWhichCanFail(FunctionWhichCanFail function)
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Jul 20, 2005
Hi all. Dorky question , but I am still relatively new to the world ofms database servers so bare with me. I am monitoring the page faultrate on a server and it runs at 100% almost all of the time. Cansomeone help me understand what that means?
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Aug 28, 2015
I have a Windows sever 2012 with sql server 2012 enterprise. Ram size is 22GB. Sometimes SQL sever takes 95% memory.My question, How to reduce memory size without killing any process because it's production server.So there are many background process is running. And,Is there any guides to learn why Memory is raise d so high and how to reduce it.
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Mar 27, 2008
Hello, I understand that we should use SSMS -> Server Properties -> Memory to put a cap on the SQL server memory usage, therefore it gives some space memory for OS, this is based on the fact if the max memory is not specified, SQL will use whatever available memory and eventually crash the system.
My question is that when a server has SSIS and SSAS services installed along with the SQL service. Would the max memory setting covers the SSIS and SSAS memory usage, or the SSIS and SSAS has to shared the memory with OS?
Thanks,
fshguo.
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Dec 6, 2006
I am running Visual Studio 2005. I have an SSIS Package which is consuming a huge amount of memory. During the execution of the package the memory keeps increasing. Until finally i get an Out of Memory exception. I have run this package using dtexec, and in the BIDS. No difference. I do have some script components and have added some code to get the assemblies in the current appdomain. I do see that one particular assembly is increasing on every loop. VBAssembly every time it hits the script component is increasing by 6, and along with it the memory is climbing. What is this VBAssembly being used for is there an update to SQL Server Integration Services that I need?
Thanks! Aaron B.
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Aug 22, 2007
sql server 2000 is running on windows server 2003 ... 4gb of memory on server .... 2003 was allocated 2.3gb nd sql server was allocated (and using all of it) 1.6gb for total of approx 4gb based on idera monitor software ... all memory allocated betweeen the OS and sql server .... then 4 more gb of memory added for total now of 8g ... now idera monitor shows 1.7gb for OS and 1.0 gb for sql server ..... 'system' info shows 8gb memory with PAE ... so I assume that the full 8gb can now be addressed .... why are less resources being used now with more total memory .... especially sql server ..... i thought about specifying a minimum memmry for sql server but i amnot convinced that would even work since it seems that this 1gb limit is artificial .... it it used 1.6 gb before why would it not use at least that much now ??
thank you
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Oct 4, 2015
i want to create a lot of index for my database for performance.but i need find memory usage by indexes.
How to find memory usage by index in sql server?
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Jun 15, 2015
I've a database with a memory optimized filegroup on it. How can I remove it?I have removed the memory optimized table I had on it, but when I try to remove the filegroup I receive an error.
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Jul 17, 2006
Hi,
I am going to install SQL Server 2000 (then SQL 2K5) on a Win Server 2K3 with 8 GB of ram, but it will be 16 GB in the near future.
I would like to reserve a fixed memory (for momemt less than 3-4 GB) for SQL Server and the rest for application (virtualization).
Without AWE enabled, max memory for SQL Server 2K5 is 4GB as for SQL Server 2000?
How can I manage and optimize memory keeping in mind AWE. (any doc, website available?)
Thank
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Feb 10, 2015
So I started a new job recently and have noticed a few strange configurations. Typically I would never mess with min memory per query option and index create memory option configuration because i just haven't seen any need to. My typical thought is that if it isn't broke... They have been modified on every single server in my environment.
From Books Online:
• This option is an advanced option and should be changed only by an experienced database administrator or certified SQL Server technician.
• The index create memory option is self-configuring and usually works without requiring adjustment. However, if you experience difficulties creating indexes, consider increasing the value of this option from its run value.
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Mar 20, 2008
Hello frnds Can Anybody explai what does it mean by question itself and how to resole it ?
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Aug 2, 2006
Hi
I did a load testing and found the following observations:
1. The Memory:Pages/sec was crossing the limit beyond 20.
2. The Target Server Memory was always greater than Total Server Memory
Seeing the above data it seems to be memory pressure. But I found that AvailableMemory was always above 200 MB. Also Buffer Cache HitRatio was close to 99.99. What could be the reason for the above behavior?
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Apr 7, 2004
Hi
We are facing an acute situation in our web-application. Technology is ASP.NEt/VB.NET, SQL Server 2000.
Consider a scenario in which User 1 is clicking on a button which calls a SQL stored procedure. This procedure selects Group A of records of Database Page1.
At the same time if User 2 also clicks the same button which calls same SQL stored procedure. This procedure selects Group B of records of Database Page1.
So, its the same Page1 but different sets of records. At this moment, both the calls have shared locked on the Page1 inside the procedure.
Now, in call 1, inside the procedure after selecting Group A of records, the next statement is and update to those records. As soon as update statement executes, SQL Server throws a deadlock exception as follows :
Transaction (Process ID 78) was deadlocked on lock resources with another process and has been chosen as the deadlock victim. Rerun the transaction
We are able to understand why its happening. Its because, Group A and Group B of records are on the same Page1. But both the users have shared lock on the Page1. So, no one gets the exclusive lock in records for update, even though, the records are different.
How can I resolve this issue? How can I get lock on wanted rows instead of entire page?
Please advice. Thanks a bunch.
Pankaj
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Feb 15, 2007
Hi~, I have 3 questions about memory based bulk copy.
1. What is the limitation count of IRowsetFastLoad::InsertRow() method before IRowsetFastLoad::Commit(true)?
For example, how much insert row at below sample?(the max value of nCount)
for(i=0 ; i<nCount ; i++)
{
pIFastLoad->InsertRow(hAccessor, (void*)(&BulkData));
}
2. In above code sample, isn't there method of inserting prepared array at once directly(BulkData array, not for loop)
3. In OLE DB memory based bulk copy, what is the equivalent of below's T-SQL bulk copy option ?
BULK INSERT database_name.schema_name.table_name FROM 'data_file' WITH (ROWS_PER_BATCH = rows_per_batch, TABLOCK);
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My solution is like this. Is it correct?
// CoCreateInstance(...);
// Data source
// Create session
m_TableID.uName.pwszName = m_wszTableName;
m_TableID.eKind = DBKIND_NAME;
DBPROP rgProps[1];
DBPROPSET PropSet[1];
rgProps[0].dwOptions = DBPROPOPTIONS_REQUIRED;
rgProps[0].colid = DB_NULLID;
rgProps[0].vValue.vt = VT_BSTR;
rgProps[0].dwPropertyID = SSPROP_FASTLOADOPTIONS;
rgProps[0].vValue.bstrVal = L"ROWS_PER_BATCH = 10000,TABLOCK";
PropSet[0].rgProperties = rgProps;
PropSet[0].cProperties = 1;
PropSet[0].guidPropertySet = DBPROPSET_SQLSERVERROWSET;
if(m_pIOpenRowset)
{
if(FAILED(m_pIOpenRowset->OpenRowset(NULL,&m_TableID,NULL,IID_IRowsetFastLoad,1,PropSet,(LPUNKNOWN*)&m_pIRowsetFastLoad)))
{
return FALSE;
}
}
else
{
return FALSE;
}
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Nov 13, 2006
If I install SQL 2005 Standard on Windows 2003 Standard, is SQL limited to 4 gigs of physical RAM?
I'm planning a new system that will run SQL 2005 Standard edition on a Windows 2003 Standard platform. The spec calls for 8 GB of RAM. My experience would lead me to suspect I need to install Windows 2003 Enterprise to take advantage of all the installed memory.
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Feb 9, 2005
We have a box with dual Intel Xeon 3.4GHz processors, and 8GB RAM, OS and Data on separate RAID5 arrays. It runs:
MS Win2k3 Enterprise for the OS,
MS SQLServer 2k Enterprise for DB,
MS SQL Analysis Services for OLAP,
MS SQL Reporting Services for reports distrib,
MS IIS for web hosting,
SPSS OLAPHub for OLAP web UI, and other small stuff...
My question is this: How should the memory be configured? Should we use the OS' /3GB switch or are there enough apps running here for the OS to need 2GB to track them? What SQLServer switches would you run? I'm not sure that I want to lock more that 3-4GB of SQL data pages into memory and starve the other pigs... How could I set this up to keep 2GB for the OS and yet really use the remaining 6GB most effectively?
All input is sincerely appreciated.
Robert
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Mar 26, 2001
I had the drives switched out on my sever this weekend and the memory is
running at a consistent 100%.
OS: NT Server 4.0 SP6
SQL Server 7.0 SP1
Drives:
From: 60gb To: 210gb
Memory: 1gb (will be increasing to 2gb)
Pagefile: 3gb
Can anyone tell me why or what would be causing all the memory to be
used?
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Aug 3, 2000
I have been tracking SQL's memory usage over the past few months with Perfmon. I have noticed a trend that little by little "% Committed Bytes in Use" creeps up starting at 8% and eventually climing as high at 35%. I stop and start the SQL services and the total comes back down to 8%. This happens over a week and a half or two week period. Is this normal SQL activity?
Thanks for your help!
DOUG
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