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My best idea so far is to use SELECT *, NULL AS NewColumn INTO NewTable to create a copy of the table (using a cast to get the correct datatype) during the day, when no new data is going in, and replacing the old table with the new by simply changing the names right after everyone goes home. But this could still cause slowdowns while it builds the copy, and leave the problem of re-creating indexes (there are several). There ought to be some graceful way to tell it to add the column to the existing table and play nice with ongoing traffic.

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(
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3680640 + 1*1440,
3680640 + 2*1440,
3680640 + 3*1440,
...snip...
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3680640 + 364*1440,
3680640 + 365*1440
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...snip...
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