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Hi, Am migrating my SQL 2000 legacy app to SQL2005 and am dealing with restrictions on the underlying system tables. Have taken advice that Granting VIEW state to all users is heavy handed (especially meta data access at SERVER level). Now looking at Module signing which is great. I can supply SP's which target the few System table/ information schema fields that I require. Now I Sign the Sp's cool, now I grant exec rights to the application role (doesn't work). Create a db role and put my users in it, okay grant role exec on Sp's (fine they work).

However my application runs under an application role always, so my users rights are ignored and it appears that its only the users not the approles who can benefit from the module signing ? I know I can switch too and from approle using cookies but I seem to be going round in cirlces here.

Essentially is there any 'EASY' and 'CONTROLLED' way that my application user who has no rights, who immediately switches to the application role can see the dbName (All rows ) from master.sysdatabases ?

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