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Dec 7, 2006

I am under the impression that triggers are not pre-compiled like SP's. True or false?

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Hello Forum

I have an issue that hopefully someone can help me with. We have SQL server running in a 64 bit environment. We are running SQL Server 2005 SP2. The problem I am experiencing is that my SSIS script components produce the following error when the SSIS package is executed from the server.

Code: 0x00000003 Source: Set Perspective Connection Description: Precompiled script failed to load. The computer that is running the Script Task does not have a compiler capable of recompiling the script. To recompile the script, see the Microsoft Knowledge Base article, KB931846 (http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=81885).

I have reviewed this article and everything points to SP2 as being the fix. Being that I am running SP2 there is something else going on. I was curious to see if anyone else has run into this issue with SP2.

Any input you have is greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

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Oct 12, 2006

1. Create table and 2 triggers with script below (*)

2. Run the following script:

use testjrl;
begin transaction;
update testtable
set workphone = '333' where id = 1;
rollback;

Get following error message:

(1 row(s) affected)
Msg 2801, Level 16, State 1, Procedure trgTestTableInsertUpdate, Line 7
The definition of object 'trgTestTableInsertUpdate' has changed since it was compiled.
The statement has been terminated.

3. Change trgTestTableInsertUpdate trigger to

alter table TestTable disable trigger trgTestTableDelete
select 1
alter table TestTable enable trigger trgTestTableDelete

4. Run the script from step 2 again - works fine.

Questions:

a. Why does first error occur?

b. Why does error go away when you specify trigger name to disable?



Thanks
Jim


*Script to create table and triggers:

CREATE TABLE [dbo].[TestTable](
[id] [int] IDENTITY(1,1) NOT NULL,
[WorkPhone] [nchar](10) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL,
CONSTRAINT [PK_TestTable] PRIMARY KEY CLUSTERED
(
[id] ASC
)WITH (PAD_INDEX = OFF, IGNORE_DUP_KEY = OFF) ON [PRIMARY]
) ON [PRIMARY]
GO

CREATE TRIGGER [dbo].[trgTestTableInsertUpdate] ON [dbo].[TestTable]
FOR INSERT, UPDATE
AS
alter table TestTable disable trigger all
select 1
alter table TestTable enable trigger all
GO

CREATE TRIGGER [dbo].[trgTestTableDelete] ON [dbo].[TestTable]
FOR DELETE
AS
select 1
GO



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Not sure if this is the right forum to post this question to, so if it's not, please accept my apologies.

I'm working in SQL Server 2005 with a database that was migrated to 2005 from SQL Server 2000. I have to alter a trigger on a table for some functionality changes, and when I modify the trigger and then access it through the application the database is working with, I receive this error:


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[stored procedure name] and [trigger name] are where the actual names appear in the message.

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I'm a bit confused on this bit please elaborate : " FROM Test_TRG t INNER JOIN inserted i ON t.PK = i.PK ".
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WHEN LEFT( i.Loan_No, 3 ) = 'MFS' AND i.LoanBook IS NULL THEN 'MFS'
WHEN LEFT( i.Loan_No, 3 ) = 'ABL' AND i.LoanBook IS NULL THEN 'ABL'

WHEN i.LoanBook IS NULL THEN LEFT( i.Loan_No, 3 )
END
FROM Test_TRG t INNER JOIN inserted i ON t.PK = i.PK
-- Fill in Primary Key or other Join Column(s)
WHERE LEFT( i.Loan_No, 3 ) = 'MCG'
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OR i.LoanBook IS NULL

====== Error message =================

Server: Msg 207, Level 16, State 3, Procedure UpdTest_TRGData, Line 11
Invalid column name 'PK'.
Server: Msg 207, Level 16, State 1, Procedure UpdTest_TRGData, Line 11
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