Auto Stats Adversly Affect Cached Plans?
May 31, 2007
With SQL2005 SP2, we are seeing that when auto stats run on one or more indexes of a large table (1.5M rows), then immediately the stored proc using that table starts acting as if the query plan is no longer any good. This causes a drastic slowdown in response time and a corresponding increase of table reads to get the data. E.g, the next execution of the procedure after the auto stats kick in goes from 355 reads to 755000 reads (as depicted by Profiler). Generally, there are about 25 people using the DB at any one time. They connect through a mid-tier VB component.
I tried adding WITH RECOMPILE to the stored proc in question, but that caused almost all executions to run at the higher number. I thought that the WITH RECOMPILE hint would create a new query plan for each execution of the procedure and that plan would the the latest and greatest. Perhaps it did, but most users got stuck with the higher number of reads anyway. After taking the hint out, everyone went back to getting the 335 number and quick response times.
What we are wrestling with is that when those auto stats hit, it really messes up everyone until we manually recompile the procedure. Daily we delete all records in the table that are over 45 days old, so the table stays pretty much the same size. We also set the recompile flag to cause a new plan to be generated that will reflect the smaller amount of data. Should we also run a stats update before recompiling the procedure? Profiler has been very helpful in capturing what is going on, so I think I have a good handle on that. However, I don't understand why WITH RECOMPILE produced a messed up plan for everyone. The compile itself seems to take only 1 ms when done from the query screen.
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Aug 16, 2005
I was wondering if anyone had an concrete information about if there is a problem with having too many stored procedures or plans in the cache? Obviously there is an impact on memory but if we can ignore that for the time being, does SQL perform just as well with 100 query plans as it does with 10's millions of plans?
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Any way to invalidate cached query plans? I would rather target a specific query instead of invalidating all of them. Also any sql server setting that will cause cached query plans to invalidate even though only one character in the queries has changed?
exec sp_executesql N'select
cast(5 as int) as DisplaySequence,
mt.Description + '' '' + ct.Description as Source,
c.FirstName + '' '' + c.LastName as Name,
cus.CustomerNumber Code,
c.companyname as "Company Name",
a.Address1,
a.Address2,
[code]....
In this query we have seen (on some databases) simply changing ‘@CustomerId int',@CustomerId=1065’ too ‘@customerId int',@customerId=1065’ fixed the a speed problem….just changed the case on the Customer bind parameter. On other servers this has no effect.the server is using an old cached query plan, but don’t know for sure.
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Apr 30, 2014
way to invalidate cached query plans? I would rather target a specific query instead of invalidating all of them.
Also do you know of any sql server setting that will cause cached query plans to invalidate even though only one character in the queries has changed?
exec sp_executesql N'select
cast(5 as int) as DisplaySequence,
mt.Description + '' '' + ct.Description as Source,
[Code].....
In this query we have seen (on some databases) simply changing ‘@CustomerId int',@CustomerId=1065’ too ‘@customerId int',@customerId=1065’ fixed the a speed problem….just changed the case on the Customer bind parameter. On other servers this has no effect. I’m thinking the server is using an old cached query plan, but don’t know for sure.
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Apr 10, 2008
Hi all,
I have an dtsx (SSIS) for "clone" manually Sql server database to another.
How I copy all stats from one database to another ? I have problem with "auto stats".
When I try DROP statitics for auto stats I get this error:
No se puede DROP el Ãndice 'dbo.ACTIVIDAD_PROVEEDOR.PK_ACTIVIDAD_PROVEEDOR'. No es una colección de estadÃsticas.
Cannot DROP index 'dbo.ACTIVIDAD_PROVEEDOR.PK_ACTIVIDAD_PROVEEDOR'. Not statitics collection.
What can I do ??
-- Get Stats list
SELECT
'[' + SCHEMA_NAME(tbl.schema_id) + '].[' + tbl.name + ']' AS [Table_Name_With_Schema],
'[' + st.name + ']' AS [Name],
'' + SCHEMA_NAME(tbl.schema_id) + '.' + tbl.name + ''
+ '.' + st.name + '' AS [Estadistica]
FROM
sys.tables AS tbl
INNER JOIN sys.stats st ON st.object_id=tbl.object_id
ORDER BY
[Table_Name_With_Schema] ASC,[Name] ASC
Thanks in advance, any help will be appreciated, regards, greetings
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Apr 10, 2008
Hi all,
I have an dtsx (SSIS) for "clone" manually Sql server database to another.
How I copy all stats from one database to another ? I have problem with "auto stats".
When I try DROP statitics for auto stats I get this error:
No se puede DROP el Ãndice 'dbo.ACTIVIDAD_PROVEEDOR.PK_ACTIVIDAD_PROVEEDOR'. No es una colección de estadÃsticas.
Cannot DROP index 'dbo.ACTIVIDAD_PROVEEDOR.PK_ACTIVIDAD_PROVEEDOR'. Not statitics collection.
What can I do ??
-- Get Stats list
SELECT
'[' + SCHEMA_NAME(tbl.schema_id) + '].[' + tbl.name + ']' AS [Table_Name_With_Schema],
'[' + st.name + ']' AS [Name],
'' + SCHEMA_NAME(tbl.schema_id) + '.' + tbl.name + ''
+ '.' + st.name + '' AS [Estadistica]
FROM
sys.tables AS tbl
INNER JOIN sys.stats st ON st.object_id=tbl.object_id
ORDER BY
[Table_Name_With_Schema] ASC,[Name] ASC
Thanks in advance, any help will be appreciated, regards, greetings
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Does anyone know how to tell how long it took for an auto update statistics to run? I looked under DBCC Show_Statistics and it shows the time the stats were last updated, but not how long it took to update them. Thanks.
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The auto stats not working
I have both Auto Update Statistics and Auto Update Statistics Asynchronously set to True
Created a little test table.
USE [TEST]
GO
/****** Object: Table [dbo].[CUSTOMER] Script Date: 12/29/2007 10:42:49 ******/
SET ANSI_NULLS ON
GO
SET QUOTED_IDENTIFIER ON
GO
CREATE TABLE [dbo].[CUSTOMER](
[Customer_Id] [nchar](10) NOT NULL,
[Customer_Name] [nvarchar](1000) NULL,
[Customer_Address] [nvarchar](1000) NULL,
[Customer_Address1] [nchar](1000) NULL,
CONSTRAINT [PK_CUSTOMER] PRIMARY KEY CLUSTERED
(
[Customer_Id] ASC
)WITH (PAD_INDEX = OFF, STATISTICS_NORECOMPUTE = OFF, IGNORE_DUP_KEY = OFF, ALLOW_ROW_LOCKS = ON, ALLOW_PAGE_LOCKS = ON, FILLFACTOR = 90) ON [PRIMARY]
) ON [PRIMARY]
--Created an insert table
DECLARE @COUNT INT
SET @COUNT = 1
WHILE @COUNT <= 1000
begin
insert into CUSTOMER (CUSTOMER_ID, CUSTOMER_NAME)
VALUES (@COUNT, '12345678901234567890')
SET @COUNT = @COUNT + 1
END
I then look at Tables then statistics the statistics are empty so i fire update statistics and see 1000 rows in here.
I run again the insert script
DECLARE @COUNT INT
SET @COUNT = 1001
WHILE @COUNT <= 2000
begin
insert into CUSTOMER (CUSTOMER_ID, CUSTOMER_NAME)
VALUES (@COUNT, '12345678901234567890')
SET @COUNT = @COUNT + 1
END
Look again at statistics it does not have 2000 rows in here.
If i do select * from CUSTOMER where CUSTOMER_ID = '2000' then go checks statictics it works.
I was under the impression that when you do insert or delete, update then the statistics are fired.
The sys.sysindexes rowmodctr shows the 1000 rows.
I checked the conditions that sql fires if the no of rows int able > 6 and < 500 then updates when 500 mods made.
Also if row > 500 auto update done when 500 = 20% are added
So both are met.
Anyone other any other suggestions about the auto stats ?
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Dec 29, 2007
The auto stats not working
I have both Auto Update Statistics and Auto Update Statistics Asynchronously set to True
USE [TEST]
GO
/****** Object: Table [dbo].[CUSTOMER] Script Date: 12/29/2007 10:42:49 ******/
SET ANSI_NULLS ON
GO
SET QUOTED_IDENTIFIER ON
GO
CREATE TABLE [dbo].[CUSTOMER](
[Customer_Id] [nchar](10) NOT NULL,
[Customer_Name] [nvarchar](1000) NULL,
[Customer_Address] [nvarchar](1000) NULL,
[Customer_Address1] [nchar](1000) NULL,
CONSTRAINT [PK_CUSTOMER] PRIMARY KEY CLUSTERED
(
[Customer_Id] ASC
)WITH (PAD_INDEX = OFF, STATISTICS_NORECOMPUTE = OFF, IGNORE_DUP_KEY = OFF, ALLOW_ROW_LOCKS = ON, ALLOW_PAGE_LOCKS = ON, FILLFACTOR = 90) ON [PRIMARY]
) ON [PRIMARY]
--Created an insert table
DECLARE @COUNT INT
SET @COUNT = 1
WHILE @COUNT <= 1000
begin
insert into CUSTOMER (CUSTOMER_ID, CUSTOMER_NAME)
VALUES (@COUNT, '12345678901234567890')
SET @COUNT = @COUNT + 1
END
Look at Tables then statistics the statistics are empty so i fire update statistics and see 1000 rows in here.
I run again the insert script
DECLARE @COUNT INT
SET @COUNT = 1001
WHILE @COUNT <= 2000
begin
insert into CUSTOMER (CUSTOMER_ID, CUSTOMER_NAME)
VALUES (@COUNT, '12345678901234567890')
SET @COUNT = @COUNT + 1
END
Look again at statistics it not firing.
If i do select * from CUSTOMER where CUSTOMER_ID = '2000' then go checks statictics it works.
I was under the impression that when you do insert or delete, update then the statistics are fired.
The sys.sysindexes rowmodctr shows the 1000 rows.
I checked the conditions that sql fires if the no of rows int able > 6 and < 500 then updates when 500 mods made.
Also if row > 500 auto update done when 500 = 20% are added
So both are met.
Anyone other any other suggestions about the auto stats ?
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Mar 10, 2003
Recently a production server suffered a critical blocking period and I wanted to know if I could solicit some input. It seems that a stored procedure was in the middle of recompiling while and auto update statistics started. This caused blocking for like an hour on the
single object (stored procedure) that was originally called. The table that the update occurred on and that the
stored procedure is reading form is quite large. It is 2 mil rows and about 140 columns wide. Some info from
sysprocesses is below. The table alone takes up almost 4GB of space, when looking at sp_spaceused. I have some
questions.
1. Can the update statistics for a '_WA%' stats cause
blocking on a table?
2. Does an update stats on an index survive a restart of
SQL server? We tried restarting, but the blocking did not
end.
3. If the stored procedure is running under a compile, can
the server automatically start an update stats and cause
the stored procedure to wait?
4. Can the server automatically start an update stats on
more than one column stats at a time, causing one to be
blocked by the other?
5. We had never seen this issue before going to SQL2K
clustering. Is this something specific to SQL2K and not
SQL7 ?
Thanks for your input.
John Lee
This is the lock info for the blocking processes.
spid dbid ObjId IndId Type Resource Mode Status name
------ ------ ----------- ------ ---- ---------------- -------- ------ -------------------------
142 7 2 1 KEY (6f00035ef42b) S GRANT sysindexes
142 7 2 1 KEY (6f00035ef42b) S GRANT sysindexes
142 7 421576540 0 TAB Sch-S GRANT tJob
142 7 1141579105 0 TAB Sch-S GRANT tPatient_info
142 7 1141579105 0 TAB [UPD-STATS] Sch-M GRANT tPatient_info
142 7 1659921035 0 TAB [COMPILE] X GRANT iDBGetPatInfoRecord
142 7 1659921035 0 TAB Sch-S GRANT iDBGetPatInfoRecord
These are the processes that are being blocked:
spid
------
137
140
Below this is a snapshot of all the SQL processes on the server being blocked.
Save the report and send to the whole database group.
spid kpid blocked waittype waittime lastwaittype waitresource
------ ------ ------- -------- ----------- -------------------------------- -----------------------------
140 4292 142 0x0005 68609 LCK_M_X TAB: 7:1659921035 [[COMPILE]]
137 2576 140 0x0005 64671 LCK_M_X TAB: 7:1659921035 [[COMPILE]]
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regards,
Bill
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See you,
Have a nice day!
regards,
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2.
Error: 15457, Severity: 0, State: 1
3.
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thanks for your adivce
regards Ali
create procedure p_bcp_all as
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