Automatic Activation - Message Is Null/Monitoring Of Readers
Nov 29, 2005
I have created a queue with automatic execution of a stored proc with the attribute Max_Queue_Readers = 5. While processing data, I can select from the queue and see that messages are backed up in the queue. I have two questions:
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May 26, 2008
Hello All,
Greetings!!!
Due to certain constraints on my Table, I am not able to place unique Key constraint on it.
So I have take care about the uniqueness in my T-SQL code. I don't want to use the serializable transaction isolation level as it will result in frequent deadlocks.
I want some means by which one select will block other select.
Can this be done in SQL Server. I tried using TablockX along with holdlock as Table hint, but still the Selects does not block other select.
Will appreciate if you can resolve this issue
Thanks in Advance,
Mitesh Shah
MCTS- SQL Server 2005
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Jul 16, 2006
I'm a SQL Server 7/2000 DBA and manages about 40 servers in different networks. Every morning I check through the Enterprise Manager if all Jobs (backup, maintenance, etc.) have run successfully. This check costs me 1 hour per day.
Because of a reorganization I've got some new college's and lost some college's. My new college's think this is to much work, so it should be automated. They only want the failed jobs to report an error on a website or something like that, and don't want to check 40 servers. I don't agree in this, because I'm affraid I'm going to miss some errors.
How do you do your checks every morning?
Thanks,
Marco
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Jan 17, 2007
Hi There
As far as i know service broker will break large messages into smaller parts when sending them. Also a message will remain in sys.transmission_queue until the complete message is received at the target.
If you have a very large message and a slow network, how can you tell that the there is no problem because the message is in sys.transmission_queue , it is simply taking a while for the message to get there, is there anyway to tell how much of a message has been sent or the progress of a large message being sent?
Thanx
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Jan 9, 2007
When multiple readers are waiting on a message from the same queue, I would expect that the reader that has been waiting the longest would be the first to pick up a message. However, I'm shocked to discover that the opposite seems to be true; in my tests I'm showing that the reader that has been waiting the least time picks up a message first! This seems totally counter-intuitive, and I'd like to know why it's working this way. This implementation will cause a lot more reader timeouts to occur than a properly queued method. For instance, assume that I have two readers, each using a one minute timeout. Reader #1 starts waiting, and reader #2 is busy for another 20 seconds before it starts waiting. 39 seconds later a message comes in and reader #2 will pick it up, leaving reader #1 to time out one second later! I would much rather have reader #1 pick up the message and reader #2 continue to wait for 20 more seconds.
I'm considering filing a bug on Connect about this, but I thought I'd post here first and see if I can get an answer...
Following is the script I'm using to test:
---Setup / Window #1---
--------------------------------------
CREATE DATABASE SimpleSSB
GO
USE SimpleSSB
GO
--Create a database master key
CREATE MASTER KEY
ENCRYPTION BY PASSWORD = 'onteuhoeu'
GO
--Create a message type
CREATE MESSAGE TYPE Simple_Msg
VALIDATION = EMPTY
GO
--Create a contract based on the message type
CREATE CONTRACT Simple_Contract
(Simple_Msg SENT BY INITIATOR)
GO
--create a queue
CREATE QUEUE Simple_Queue
GO
--Create a service
CREATE SERVICE Simple_Service
ON QUEUE Simple_Queue
(Simple_Contract)
GO
--------------------------------------
---Go start the other windows now---
---Readers: Windows #2-n ---
--------------------------------------
USE SimpleSSB
GO
WAITFOR
(
RECEIVE *
FROM Simple_Queue
), TIMEOUT 300000
--------------------------------------
---Start at least two readers, then do---
--------------------------------------
--send a message...
DECLARE @h UNIQUEIDENTIFIER
BEGIN DIALOG CONVERSATION @h
FROM SERVICE Simple_Service
TO SERVICE 'Simple_Service'
ON CONTRACT Simple_Contract
WITH ENCRYPTION=OFF;
SEND ON CONVERSATION @h
MESSAGE TYPE Simple_Msg
GO
--------------------------------------
... the last reader you've started will pick up the message first. Note I'm testing on 9.0.3033, in case that matters.
Thanks!
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Sep 15, 2014
We are in plan to build a Monitoring tool using PowerShell and Performance Monitor which could monitor 10 to 20 servers. Do you have any reference of any existing tool using Performance Monitor to monitor the SQL Server and available for free? I didn't want to put some effort, if something is available already.
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Jun 2, 2006
The following code works perfectly when run by itself:
DECLARE @DateTransaction smalldatetime
DECLARE @TradeDate smalldatetime
SET @DateTransaction = (SELECT Max(DateTransaction) FROM tblImport)
SET @TradeDate = (SELECT Max(DateTrade) FROM tblSystem)
PRINT 'The Transaction Date is ' + CAST(@DateTransaction as varchar) + '. The Trade Date is ' + CAST(@TradeDate as varchar)
However, it is part of a long stored procedure, and when it runs there, I get the following instead of the line confirming the two dates:
Warning: Null value is eliminated by an aggregate or other SET operation.
What could be interfering with this section of the stored procedure?
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May 26, 2008
Hi Friends,
I have the below procedure in my local system for sending automatic mails in sql server 2005.
Create Procedure dbo.SendEmail1@To VarChar(500), @From VarChar(100), @Subject VarChar(200), @Body VarChar(1000), @SMTPServer VarChar(50)ASDeclare @Object int, @Hr int, @Src VarChar(255), @Desc VarChar(255)--Create Message objectExec @Hr = sp_OACreate 'CDO.Message', @Object OUTIf @Hr <> 0BeginExec sp_OAGetErrorInfo @Object, @Src OUT, @Desc OUT SELECT hr=convert(varbinary(4),@Hr), Source=@Src, Description=@DescReturnEnd--set sEndusing propertyExec @Hr = sp_OASetProperty @Object, 'Configuration.Fields.Item("http://schemas.microsoft.com/cdo/configuration/sEndusing")', '1'If @Hr <> 0BeginExec sp_OAGetErrorInfo @ObjectReturnEnd--set port propertyExec @Hr = sp_OASetProperty @Object, 'Configuration.Fields.Item("http://schemas.microsoft.com/cdo/configuration/SEndUsingMethod")', '25'If @Hr <> 0BeginExec sp_OAGetErrorInfo @ObjectReturnEnd--set smtp server propertyExec @Hr = sp_OASetProperty @Object, 'Configuration.Fields.Item("http://schemas.microsoft.com/cdo/configuration/smtpserver")', @SMTPServerIf @Hr <> 0BeginExec sp_OAGetErrorInfo @ObjectReturnEnd--Update the configurationExec @Hr = sp_OAMethod @Object, 'Configuration.Fields.Update', NullIf @Hr <> 0BeginExec sp_OAGetErrorInfo @ObjectReturnEnd--set TO propertyExec @Hr = sp_OASetProperty @Object, 'To', @ToIf @Hr <> 0BeginExec sp_OAGetErrorInfo @ObjectReturnEnd--set FROM propertyExec @Hr = sp_OASetProperty @Object, 'From', @FromIf @Hr <> 0BeginExec sp_OAGetErrorInfo @ObjectReturnEnd--set Subject propertyExec @Hr = sp_OASetProperty @Object, 'Subject', @SubjectIf @Hr <> 0BeginExec sp_OAGetErrorInfo @ObjectReturnEnd--set HTMLBody propertyExec @Hr = sp_OASetProperty @Object, 'HTMLBody', @BodyIf @Hr <> 0BeginExec sp_OAGetErrorInfo @ObjectReturnEnd--SEnd the mailExec @Hr = sp_OAMethod @Object, 'SEnd', Null If @Hr <> 0BeginExec sp_OAGetErrorInfo @ObjectReturnEnd--No memory leaks!Exec @Hr = sp_OADestroy @ObjectIf @Hr <> 0BeginExec sp_OAGetErrorInfo @ObjectReturnEnd
and executed as
SendEMail1 'x@x.com','a@a.com', 'Sending email through Stored Procedure', 'Body : An Email can be sent through stored procedure... and this is SAMPLE', 'smtpservername' This is working fine when I excuted the above procedure in the local system.
Same procedure I have created in the developement machine and excute it the it is giving error as
0x80040220 CDO.Message.1 The "SendUsing" configuration value is invalid. NULL 0
I need the suggestions on the above error and how to solve this in our development server.
Thanks,
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Apr 26, 2007
In a situation where messages are coming in faster than they can be processed, at what point will service broker start up another queue_reader? Also, how do you prevent table locking if part of the processing of that message involves inserting or updating data in a table? We are experiencing this problem because of the high number of messages coming through, and I'm not sure what the best solution is - does service broker have some built-in support for preventing contention on a table when multiple readers are running? Or maybe a pattern that can be used to get around it?
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Mar 10, 2006
Hi,
I'm converting a replication script from SQL 2000 to SQL 2005.
I am getting an error with push merge with no way to figure out what is wrong.
I've configured replication on a single XP server in SQL 2005 RTM version.
I have a push merge set up between A and B and between B and C. All 3 databases are 9.0 compatibility.
The snapshot and merge jobs for the A to B run fine with no errors, and merge replicates ok.
The snapshot for B to C fails with this message:
Message
2006-03-09 17:30:35.94 ---------------------------------------------
2006-03-09 17:30:35.94 -BcpBatchSize 100000
2006-03-09 17:30:35.94 -HistoryVerboseLevel 2
2006-03-09 17:30:35.94 -LoginTimeout 15
2006-03-09 17:30:35.94 -QueryTimeout 1800
2006-03-09 17:30:35.94 ---------------------------------------------
2006-03-09 17:30:35.95 Connecting to Publisher 'MyInstance'
2006-03-09 17:30:35.97 Publisher database compatibility level is set to 90.
2006-03-09 17:30:35.97 Retrieving publication and article information from the publisher database 'MyInstance.MyDB'
2006-03-09 17:30:36.22 [0%] The replication agent had encountered an exception.
2006-03-09 17:30:36.22 Source: Replication
2006-03-09 17:30:36.22 Exception Type: Microsoft.SqlServer.Replication.ReplicationAgentSqlException
2006-03-09 17:30:36.22 Exception Message: Data is Null. This method or property cannot be called on Null values.
2006-03-09 17:30:36.22 Message Code: 52006
2006-03-09 17:30:36.22
Love that exception message: "Data is Null" - very helpful to someone who is clairvoyant perhaps.
I checked the snapshot bcp files. The tables being merged all have data.
A sample add article command is:
exec sp_addmergearticle @publication = N'MyMerge', @article = N'Phone', @processing_order = 4, @source_owner = N'dbo', @source_object = N'Phone', @type = N'table', @description = null, @column_tracking = N'true', @pre_creation_cmd = N'drop', @creation_script = null, @schema_option = 0x000000004C42CDDF, @article_resolver = null, @subset_filterclause = null, @vertical_partition = N'false', @destination_owner = N'dbo', @verify_resolver_signature = 0, @allow_interactive_resolver = N'false', @fast_multicol_updateproc = N'true', @check_permissions = 0, @identityrangemanagementoption = N'none' ,@force_invalidate_snapshot = 1,@force_reinit_subscription = 1
If you have any ideas on how to fix this, I'd be most grateful. As it is after 6pm I probably won't read this again until morning. Thanks for any suggestions.
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Jan 11, 2006
Hello,
This is info that I am still not certain about and I just need to make sure, my gut feeling is correct:
A.
When a procedure is triggered upon reception of a message in a queue, what happens when the procedure fails and rolls back?
1. Message is left on the Queue.
2. is the worker procedure triggered again for the same message by the queue?
3. I am hoping the Queue keeps on triggering workers until it is empty.
My scenario is that my queue reader procedure only reads one message at a time, thus I do not loop to receive many messages.
B.
For my scenario messages are independent and ordering does not matter.
Thus I want to ensure my Queue reader procedures execute simultaneously. Is reading the Top message in one reader somehow blocking the queue for any other reader procedures? I.e. if I have BEGIN TRANSACTION when reading messages of the Queue, is that effectively going prevent many reader procedures working simultaneously. Again, I want to ensure that Service broker is effectively spawning procedures that work simultaneously.
Thank you very much for the time,
Lubomir
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Sep 20, 2006
Hey. I need to substitute a value from a table if the input var is null. This is fine if the value coming from table is not null. But, it the table value is also null, it doesn't work. The problem I'm getting is in the isnull line which is in Dark green color because @inFileVersion is set to null explicitly and when the isnull function evaluates, value returned from DR.FileVersion is also null which is correct. I want the null=null to return true which is why i set ansi_nulls off. But it doesn't return anything. And the select statement should return something but in my case it returns null. If I comment the isnull statements in the where clause, everything works fine. Please tell me what am I doing wrong. Is it possible to do this without setting the ansi_nulls to off??? Thank you
set ansi_nulls off
go
declare
@inFileName VARCHAR (100),
@inFileSize INT,
@Id int,
@inlanguageid INT,
@inFileVersion VARCHAR (100),
@ExeState int
set @inFileName = 'A0006337.EXE'
set @inFileSize = 28796
set @Id= 1
set @inlanguageid =null
set @inFileVersion =NULL
set @ExeState =0
select Dr.StateID from table1 dR
where
DR.[FileName] = @inFileName
AND DR.FileSize =@inFileSize
AND DR.FileVersion = isnull(@inFileVersion,DR.FileVersion)
AND DR.languageid = isnull(@inlanguageid,null)
AND DR.[ID]= @ID
)
go
set ansi_nulls on
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May 1, 2007
I was testing around with a sample service broker app using activation, and came across an interesting question. The little app sends a series of four messages to a queue, either on the same conversation or on seperate ones. Each message invokes one stored procedure in my activation procedure. All the procedure does is enter a record into a test table and then wait for an allotted amount of time. In my example, the first message called a proc that waited 20 sec, the 2nd one that waited 10 seconds, the third 5 seconds, and the 4th 1 second. I am using internal activation on the queue. It seemed that in both scenarios (sending on 4 separate conversations and on one conversation) the procedures executed "almost" sequentially. "Almost" meaning that the first procedure was done before the last one started executing. It makes sense to me that this would happen where I sent them on the same conversation, but not really when I sent them on 4 seperate ones. Is it because when I call a procedure from my activation procedure it locks the queue so that another message cannot be processed (I'm processing a message at a time)? How could I make it so that the 4th procedure (the one that only waits 1 second) returns before the 1st procedure (the one that waits 20 seconds)?
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May 9, 2006
I have two databases on the same instance.
One is Basket_ODS and the other is Intelligence_ODS. I am using service broker activation on a queue to move data from the Basket_ODS table to the Intelligence_ODS database. Previously I was able to move from table to table in Basket_ODS, however now that I am moving it to another database on the same instance it is no longer working.
If I set my active connection in SQL Management Studio to this user(BrokerUser) and execute the "move" procedure it works. When activated by Service Broker however, it does not. Here is the error message:
2006-05-09 14:47:52.940 spid86s The activated proc [ODS].[ProcessOrderQueue] running on queue Basket_ODS.ODS.Order Process Queue output the following: 'The server principal "BrokerUser" is not able to access the database "Intelligence_ODS" under the current security context.'
I'm sure I missed something becasue it works fine in the same database. BrokerUser has datareader and datawriter in both databases.
Thanks for any help on this matter.
Gary
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Oct 11, 2006
We are trying to use xp_cmdshell commands in service broker. If I kick off the process without activation, the process succeeds. If I enable activation, the tasks with xp_cmdshell fail.
The xp_cmdshell task is either a echo command so that users know that we are processing a database, or a file copy.
I used the TechNet article by Roger Wolter to create the queues and stored procedures.
We will be working across domains that have one-way trusts.
Wayne
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Sep 11, 2006
Hi There
Everything works 100% until i activate my sp.
I specify to execute as 'dbo' in the alter queue statement. I also define the activated sp to execute as 'dbo'.
But i keep getting permission errors from my activated sp. i have tried to excute as 'sa' , i have even tried to write a job that excutes to stored procedure but it also get weird errors. Bottom line if i exceute the sp in management studio logged in as sa it works , but thorugh activation or a job nothing works, as 'dbo' or 'sa'.
???
Thanx
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Mar 7, 2007
I need to change the Activation Key for a copy of SQL Server 2000 that I already have installed and up and running. I have the new key but can't figure out how to change from the old, no longer valid, key.
How can I change keys w/o dumping the DB, uninstalling, and reinstalling all of my instances?
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May 1, 2006
I have seen the posting on determining how activation has failed and looking through the system logs is very helpful in determining why activation is not occuring, however, short of looking through the SQL Server logs is there another way to get the same information? Access to the SQL Server logs is fairly restricted. Does anyone know another way that this can be done? I have used the execute as technique described in the article on "Troubleshooting Activation Stored Procedures" and found it helpful in some cases.
Gary
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May 5, 2007
Hi,
I'm using service broker queue with internal activation to run a stored procedure.
The DB server is windows 2003 R2, 4 cpu, with SQL server 2005 SP2.
When I'm runing the stored procedure directly from the sql management studio it takes about 75% of the cpu and running for about a minute, but when the stored procedure is activated by the queue internal activation (as a background process) it uses only 25% of the machine cpu (my guess it uses only 1 cpu insted of all 4 cpu) and running for much longer time (sometimes even more than one hour).
How can I change this behavior? I want it to run as fast as possible.
The queue decleration is:
CREATE QUEUE [TaskQueue]
WITH ACTIVATION (
STATUS = ON,
PROCEDURE_NAME = ProcessTasksProc,
MAX_QUEUE_READERS = 1,
EXECUTE AS SELF);
Thanks in advance,
Shai Brumer
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Nov 28, 2006
So is there something I'm supposed to configure to allow activation to fire after a cluster failover. We have had three where I have noticed that activation does not automatically fire back up. i have to alter the queue to get it going. None of the values on sys.service_queues imply that is disabled, but messages just keep stacking up into the queue and are not being dealt with. Once I alter the queue to turn activation on; everything takes off and starts working normaly.
Obviously, this is less than desireable for an environment that requires High availability.
Regards
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Apr 24, 2007
I've been experimenting with Service Broker and was surprised at one aspect of the design: the interface to Activation stored procedures.
I would have expected the queue to be a parameted passed to the procedure rather than having to hard code the queue query into the SP.
In a system with lots of queues it seems plausible that the same activation procedure might want to be used with several queues.
Any comments?
David.
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Aug 15, 2007
Newbie question, but is there a way for me to set up a thread in my c# code so as it sleeps until it gets woken up by an event fired by an activation SP?
As in queue sits idle, thread sleeps.
Queue receives a message, activation SP gets fired, activation SP raises an event which gets caught by event handler in code, which wakes up thread to do processing?
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Apr 5, 2007
Hi All,
Currently I have a PC that has MSDE installed on it and is attached to database (MyData.MDF and a log file MYLog.LDF) located on its hard drive at c:data. When I detach from the database, place a copy of the two files noted above on my network drive @ u:data and try to attach I get the following error€™s:
SQL[1] exec error = -1: Changed database context to 'master'.
€śDevice activation error. The physical file name u:dataMyData.MDF may be incorrect.€?
I have done some testing a have found that I can attach to a copy of my database if I move it anywhere on the c: drive, and or even to a 1Gb USB key attached to the system(e:). So far it seems to only be an issue if I move it to a mapped network drive. If anyone could please provide me with any info it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
James D.
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Oct 23, 2006
Is there any way to increase the activation time, i.e. the time between service broker creating a new instance of the activation SP.
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Jan 12, 2006
Hi
I'm having problems with activation. I have a CLR stored procedure that runs fine when run directly (and consumes messages from the queue). When I try to enable activation nothing happens. I've tried different execute as options and looked in the sql server logs and I don't see anything indicating why.
I've checked sys.service_queues and all options look correct including activation options. The sys.dm_broker_activated_tasks view is empty.
Without any errors I'm having difficulty tracking down the problem. I've seen references to service broker shutting down the procedure if it doesn't consume any messages but I haven't seen where this is indicated.
Any help appreciated.
Duncan Godwin
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Aug 17, 2006
Good day,
I have send a msg successful,but the proc failed. I altered the proc to correct the problem in the proc. The msg are still in the queue. Is there a manual way to excute the proc again to process the msg in the q? or do I wait for service broker to do it after a retry time (self recover)?
thank you in advance.
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Jun 1, 2006
I am looking for an example of a SP that shows the best practices for internal activation? In BOL this topic describes the typical patter for reading messages from a queue. What is the typical pattern for reading messages from a queue using an internally activated SP? Do we still need to loop (considering the message arrival actually fired the sp)?
Any advice provided would be helpful.
Thanks!
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Oct 6, 2006
Is there any way to identify the context by which a stored proc has been activated. i.e.
I want to use the same sp to end conversations on receipt of the end mesage from the target.
However I don't know how to find out which queue activated the SP.
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Jul 23, 2007
In my SQL Server, I see the below message in the Application Event Viewer
"18265 :
Log backed up: Database: HSD, creation date(time): 2007/01/06(05:05:05), first LSN: 1439:495055:1, last LSN: 1439:496675:1, number of dump devices: 1, device information: (FILE=1, TYPE=DISK: {'D:MSSQLBACKUPHSDHSD_tlog_200707141300.TRN'})."
When I save the application event viewer and open it in another server, I do not see the above message, instead I get the following message:
" Can't find or load message DLL. Message DLL must be in path or in current directory."
Any thoughts to overcome this problem is appreciated.
Thanks
Santhosh
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Oct 31, 2006
I have a set of service broker services setup that rely on external activation to process messages. I'm using the GotDotNet ExternalActivator, and it launches console applications that do the actual retrieval from the queues. The console applications are written to run continuously to avoid the cost of starting up .NET based console apps over and over again.
I am observing very odd timing behavior. With the receive queues empty and the external activator configured to run a minimum and maximum of 5 instances, I observe in SQL Profiler that most of the receive operations finish in about the same amount of time as my WAITFOR command in my receive stored procedure. However, there is usually one receive command that consistently takes upwards of 30 seconds and often causes sql timeout exceptions to be thrown. I know that I could code around this, but I wasn't really expecting this behavior.
Does anyone have any thoughts on why it might be occurring? I would have expected to routinely see my receive operations taking 15 seconds, give or take, especially when the queue is empty. Also, I have observed this behaviour on both SQL 2k5 Express and Dev Editions, so I don't think it's a version thing.
The stored procedure I am using to do the receive is:
Create PROCEDURE [dbo].[P_RTD_MessageBase_Receive]
@receiving_queue_name varchar(255),
@receiving_time_out int
AS
Declare @receiveQuery nvarchar(300)
Set @receiveQuery = 'WAITFOR(RECEIVE * FROM [dbo].['+ @receiving_queue_name +']),
TIMEOUT ' + cast (@receiving_time_out as varchar)
Execute sp_executeSql @receiveQuery
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Feb 13, 2007
BOL only seems to say that you can do it w/o really showing how, and the ExternalActivator sample at gotdotnet.com contains so much functionality I'm not sure what's required just for the external activation. Are there any docs or samples out there that focus on how to do it w/o obscuring the matter with a bunch of other functionality? (I prefer docs to project samples, b/c the samples tend to have hacks like hardcoded paths and connection strings so that they rarely work correctly right out of the box.)
TIA
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May 12, 2006
I will have a variety of different types of work that will come into my Service Broker queue and I'll likely have a stored procedure or two for each of the different types of work (ie. move order header, move items, move payment, etc.) What is required to be done in each of these steps may vary by the subsidiary and type of order coming in. My plan is to use exclusively stored procedures but to execute them dynamically using sp_executesql. I think I should use sp_executesql because that way I can have a config file (in xml) that I can store what stored procedures need to be called for which unit of work/order type/subsidiary. If I do this I should be able to easily configure each type of work to be done in a config file and let Service Broker handle the execution dynamically. As long as I keep the parameters the same for each of the stored procedures (I'm thinking maybe 4 or 5 parameters) and passing them to each of the stored procedures, this approach will allow me to dynamically configure Service Broker to do what it is supposed to do. I can pull what needs to be done out of the message that comes in with an XQuery expression on the config file. I know that I will have to configure my user (activation user) to be able to run sp_executesql and the security may be complex (especially since I'm using certificates). I can not use trusted databases. Are there any other considerations I should think about?
Gary
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Apr 9, 2007
OK, so assume I am recycling dialogs in my client code, and assume I am doing something similar to get a dialog handle in my TSQL. What should the activated stored procedure that is processing my queue look like if I am expecting thousands of messages per second? Assume also that there is a small bit of logic need to process each individual message? I am building for a high-throughput scenario and would like to get as much as possible out of each second-tier service broker server as possible before the aggregated data is moved up the chain to a master. The first tier is Express on a web server and exists primarily only as a forwarding mechanism.
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