BUG With Join Hints
Apr 20, 2007
I am having problems with doing what seams to be a very easy query. For some reason the SQL Server is trying to do nested loops instead of hash join. I tried to force the use of the hash join using the join hint.
Query 1
select *
from DIM_DATE DD
inner hash join (
select A.student_key,
CONVERT(int, CONVERT(varchar, COALESCE (A.date_withdrawn, getdate()), 112)) AS date_withdrawn_current
FROM FACT_STUDENT AS A
) SSE on DD.date_key= date_withdrawn_current
This query gives an error:
Msg 8622, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
Query processor could not produce a query plan because of the hints defined in this query. Resubmit the query without specifying any hints and without using SET FORCEPLAN
Second query is not really what I want but it illustrate that it works fine when getdate() is not used.
Query 2
select *
from DIM_DATE DD
inner hash join (
select A.student_key,
CONVERT(int, CONVERT(varchar, COALESCE (A.date_withdrawn, A.date_enrolled), 112)) AS date_withdrawn_current
FROM FACT_STUDENT AS A
) SSE on DD.date_key= date_withdrawn_current
Is there some problem with using function getdate() ? It works fine in SQL Server 2000
This problem occurs on the SQL Server 2005 SP2 ( 9.00.3050.00 (X64) )
and (9.00.2050)
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Sep 9, 1998
Hi,
Why SQL server dose work as follows when I dose not provide any join hints?
It looks like HASH join is the best plan, but SQL dose not. What kind of
JOIN method is used by SQL optimizer?
Thanks in advance,
Wonhyuk William Chung
wonhyukc@usa.net
MCSE/ MCT
-----------
use northwind
go
select orderid, CompanyName --productname,
from orders o inner join customers c on o.customerID = c.CustomerID
/*
Table `Orders`. Scan count 91, logical reads 184, physical reads 0,
read-ahead reads 0.
Table `Customers`. Scan count 1, logical reads 1, physical reads 0,
read-ahead reads 0.
.0553
*/
select orderid, CompanyName --productname,
from orders o inner hash join customers c on o.customerID = c.CustomerID
/*
hash
Table `Customers`. Scan count 1, logical reads 1, physical reads 0,
read-ahead reads 0.
Table `Orders`. Scan count 1, logical reads 4, physical reads 0, read-ahead
reads 0.
.115
*/
select orderid, CompanyName --productname,
from orders o inner merge join customers c on o.customerID = c.CustomerID
/*
merge
Table `Customers`. Scan count 1, logical reads 4, physical reads 1,
read-ahead reads 3.
Table `Orders`. Scan count 1, logical reads 4, physical reads 0, read-ahead
reads 0.
.115
*/
select orderid, CompanyName --productname,
from orders o inner loop join customers c on o.customerID = c.CustomerID
/*
loop
Table `Customers`. Scan count 830, logical reads 1681, physical reads 0,
read-ahead reads 0.
Table `Orders`. Scan count 1, logical reads 5, physical reads 0, read-ahead
reads 0.
.116
*/
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If I add an updlock to my update SQL statement, this would allow both users to view the record but would only allow one user's changes through. Is that correct?
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PS.
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This article instructed me on how to process rows from a table used as a data queue for multiple processes.
http://www.mssqltips.com/tip.asp?tip=1257
I tested this against the AdventureWorks DB (SQL 2005) and multiple SQL connections inside of Sql Mgmt. Studio).
Connection1:
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Greetings,
I have two tables:
CustomerOrder
----
ID
CustomerID
StatusID
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ID
Order_ID
StockID
Quantity
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SQL Server 2005 is using table scan for CustomerOrderDetail table When I user the following query:
select
cod.*
from CustomerOrder co
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When I specify hint to use index then sql seeks, but how do I make SQL server to use index automatically? I don't want to use hints in my queries.
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[code]....
However ,the result that i got was correct.But when i did the same query using the left outer join in both the cases
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4-400-8000119
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A piece of software I wrote starting timing out on a query that left outer joins a table to a view. Both the table and view have approximately the same number of rows (about 170000).
The table has 2 very similar columns, one is a varchar(1) and another is varchar(100). Neither are included in any index and beyond the size difference, the columns have the same properties. One of the employees here uses the varchar(1) column (called miscsearch) to tag large sets of rows to perform some action on. In this case, he had set 9000 rows miscsearch value to "g". The query then should join the table and view for all rows where miscsearch is set to g in the table. This query takes at least 20 minutes to run (I stopped it at this point).
If I remove the "where" clause and join all rows in the two tables, the query completes in about 20 seconds. If set the varchar(100) column (called descrip) to "g" for the same rows set via miscsearch, the query completes in about 20 seconds.
If I force the join type to a hash join, the query completes using miscsearch in about 30 seconds.
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What should I be looking for here to understand why this is happening?
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Awesome! I don't alway get the email notification of whoever reply to the posting. I think it only work after I log off of the forum.
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