Backup/Restore Vs Attach/Detach 2000 Database To 2005
Jul 15, 2006
I'm trying to see the differences between Backup/Restore and Attach/Detach. I backup and detach a database from SQL Server 2000 SP3 and then attach and restore it to SQL Server 2005 SP1.
The differences I noticed are:
1. The restored database has a much larger initial size (database size is same) for data and log.
2. The attached database has a last backup date
3. If the backup is restored over a database, the restored database is showing owned by the database owner of the database restored over but syslogins and sysusers do not match.
I don't understand why #1 happens.
Are there any other differences between Backup/Restore and Attach/Detach?
Thanks,
Peter
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Mar 20, 2014
We have 5 databases which will sum up to 8+TB, housed in our EDW server. We are planning to migrate to another storage system for better performance.
I am planning Full backup and Differential backup and detach the DB and restore the DB in the new storage system.
Or should I detach,copy the data and log file and attach the files, will this approach have any advantages ?
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Nov 5, 2007
Hello, everyone:
I want to move a database instance (about 50 user databases) to another server, both are running SQL Server 2000. Which method is better, retore from backup files or detach/attach? Some papers said restore amybe cause incorrect login and password transfer. Is it true?
Thanks
ZYT
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Sep 23, 2004
Hi folks,
Is it possible to detach a database on SQL Server 2000 and attach it to SQL Server 7 ? I know it's fine to do the other way around. Also, any adverse effects I should be aware of ?
Thanks
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May 7, 2008
Hello there,
I've some really big problems with SQL Server 2005 Express. I Recently, I had 2 instances on my machine, one was a SQL Server 2000 Developer and the other a 2005 Express Version. The 2000 version was not necessary anymore, so I unstalled it, since then, the Express version keeps having probems.
Under the Server Properties -> Database settings -> Database Locations I've changed the path to D:sqldatamssql, but now, the programm always takes the "C:Program FilesMicrosoft SQL ServerMSSQL.1MSSQLData" to store and load the databases, no matter what I do.
And there are more problems see here:
Restoring does not work=======================
I wanted to restore a database called "fw40_admin" from a backup file (.bak), but that didn't work at all, it always says this as an error:
"System.Data.SqlClient.SqlError: The operating system returned the error '5(error not found)' while attempting 'RestoreContainer::ValidateTargetForCreation' on 'D:sqldatamssqlfw40_admin.mdf'. (Microsoft.SqlServer.Express.Smo)"
But as soon as I type in the installation path "C:Program FilesMicrosoft SQL ServerMSSQL.1MSSQLData" inside the "Restore As" under "Options", it works.
Why does the backup only work in "C:Program FilesMicrosoft SQL ServerMSSQL.1MSSQLData", BUT the database locations under the server properties is indicated with "D:sqldatamssql"????
Attaching does not work=======================
Attaching an existing database does not work either. Most databases (mdf) are located on the path D:sqldatamssql, but as soon as I press
Attach Databases -> Add
The dialog window appears with the "D:sqldatamssql" path, but it is unable to find any *.mdfs altough THERE ARE .mdfs in this directory. But Express can find databases in the selected installation: "C:Program FilesMicrosoft SQL ServerMSSQL.1MSSQLData".
Why can't Express see the directory on the D: partition???
What is wrong? Here? Can anybody help me?
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Oct 10, 2006
I've just created ASPNETDB database with ASP.NET Security. Now, I want to send this db to orther computer.First, I detached this db, then when I used attach database in that computer, there is an error :Error 602: Could not find row in sysindexes for database ID 8, object ID 1, indext ID 1. RUN DBCC CHECKTABLE on sysindexes. Please help me .Thank.
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Nov 11, 2001
In SQL when I right click on Databases the option to use Attach/Detach is greyed out. I don't understand why. I'm running SQL 7 on Win2000 server and I have Win2k at sp2 and SQL at sp2.
Help please!
Chris
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Jan 2, 2004
An original database (eg A.mdf) is imported/exported to a different server as named B.mdf. The detach of A.mdf was unitentionally not done. It seems that both the database were updated.
A.mdf - 123000KB 25/12/2003
A_log.ldf - 14000KB 25/12/2003
B.mdf - 67000KB 25/12/2003
B_log.ldf - 1024KB 25/12/2003
In this case, which mdf & ldf should be the correct database?
If I I remove A.mdf database by "detach", will B.mdf database work?
SQL server 2000 and SP3 installed.
Assistance is appreciated
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Sep 8, 2005
Alan writes "Is it possible to create scripts which can be started remotely
to attach and detach databases into SQLExpress 2005.
If so how."
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May 21, 2007
Hi, all experts here,
Thank you for your kind attention.
I am having a question on detach/attach database. As when we detach/attach database, we have to copy both of .mdf and .ldf files to the targeted filepaths, in this case, when the database is large, then it takes a pretty while to copy the physical files though. In this case, I dont really see the point to detach/attach the database? Instead, backup/restore may be faster? (also, as detach the database, the files has to be taken offline)
Just confused about the way we trasfer database files with detach/attach. I am looking forward to hearing from you shortly for any advices for that.
With best regards,
Yours sincerely,
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May 9, 2001
This might sound dumb, but BOL says you can use detach/attach to "MOVE" a database but can you detach and copy the files to a new server, leaving the files on the original and running the attach on the new and the old? (effectually a way to copy)? I know how to use data transformations/import,export was curious?
Help appreciated!!
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Jan 30, 2000
I have similar question like Tim asked but from a different angle. I wish I pose my question here too anybody can help answer this.
I tried to use detach and attach method to do backup of the user database (not master, maybe we can do master too) on another server, but it looks the login and permission credential would not go together. I come to see different kind of message I tried to login as non-sa user after I attatch the database on different machine. I would be denied for SQL timeout. It looks like loginand user dose not exist in new server because I did not move master database too. But even if I recreate the login when I tried to associate user with login I will see a message saying user or role already exist in database. If I go back to check the user it did not show up on enterprize manager on that database.
So my question would be
1). how to move login and user together with user database.
2) do we have to move master database where the login infor. reside
3). if so how to move master database from one server to another when other server already have master database exist?
Hope somebody can answer this.
Wislon
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Oct 17, 2006
Hi All
This is a very urgent requirement of my client having 200 stores and one Head office. the HO has just installed SQL-Server 2005, The HO sends small backups of the data related to stock transfer which needs to be restored at stores. It was working find when both the HO and stores were SQL-Server 2000. but the process has come to a dead halt as the HO has SQL-Server 2005. It is not possible to convert the stores immediately. please help me out.
Thanks
Raoshan
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Jul 20, 2005
If I detach a database on a server, then attach the database with asingle file only using the data file...will I lose any transactionsthat were in the original log file? There is a debate going on here atwork where some people think that during the detach, transactions inthe log file are saved to the data file.Thanks!
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Jun 10, 2008
Friends -
Is it possible to restore user databases in SQL Server 2005 with user database backup copy of SQL Server 2000.
Please advise on this.
Cheers:)
VSH
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Feb 15, 2007
Hi All
I have a problem in transferring a 2005 backed up database to SQL Server 2000 SP3.
i got an error message, crux of it is
"too many backup devices specified only 64 allowed"
the i browsed MICROSOFT help, downloaded SQL 2000 SP4 - mentioned as a fix for the above error.
Now get a message,crux of it is
"current version of Database in 611 and destination version is 536"
Is there a solution????
should i download any other patches or
Should i tweak the SQL 2005 backup process???
ASAP Plz
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May 26, 2006
Does anyone know if this works to where the data is viewable/usable?
I have an application that takes datasets out of the SQL database. We decommisioned our old SQL 2000 SP4 machine and brought in a SQL 2005 Server. What we did was backed up the old database and then restored it on the new Server.
Now the application does not see the old datasets but will collect new ones that are viewable. We can import older datasets but we have nearly 27 GB of data, which our DBA can see the old tables in Enterprise Manager but our applciation can't see it.
I'm thinking it might be a schema issue or the way that 2005 translate the odler 2000 SP4 database. Does anyone know, or have they run a back up on a older 2000 Server and then restored it to a 2005?
Thank you.
David
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Jul 9, 2007
I need to restore a backup of database taken from SQL 2005 in SQLServer 2000.
I tried to restore from backup file; It says "Error 3205: Too many backup devices specified for backup or restore; Only 64 are allowed" .
I tried to attach mdf file, it too failed.
Can anyone help me in the procedure to restore 2005 backup in 2000?
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Feb 9, 2007
hi there
i've made a backup from a MS SQL Server 2005 database and i tried to restore this database to a MS SQL Server 2000. Unfortunately, I got following error
The backed-up database has on-disk structure version 611. The server supports version 539 and cannot restore or upgrad this database.
what can i do ? is it possible to restore the MS SQL Server 2005 DB on a MS SQL Server 2000 ?
Philipp
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Oct 17, 2007
Hi All
I try to attach MobileShop_Data.MDF database by using SQL server 2000 and SQL 2005 Express, but It's impossible . I don't know why .
Someone can help me bypass this problem ? this is my database .
http://www.4shared.com/file/26729050/17b56825/Database.html
Many thanks in advance .
...
regards,
Quachnguyen
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Jul 20, 2005
Help,I have a database that has a data file of 2GB and a log file of 31GB.In enterprise manager, when I choose shrink it says there is 30GB ofunused space. When I shrink the database, it does not shrink,(however it says it has completed).I've done a complete backup, tried shrink again, no dice. I thenbacked up the database (which the backup was 1.9GB), deleted thedatabase and made a new database with 2,048MB for the data and samefor the log file.When I restore, the log file jumps up to 31GB again. When I check thespace when I use the shrink, it again says I have 30GB of unusedspace.How on earth do I get this file to shrink?I've been able to shrink other databases, but not this one.TIARob
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Sep 11, 2007
Hello,
I am attempting to restore the database from within VB.NET application I am making the following 3 calls:
RESTORE FileListOnly FROM DISK = 'C:MyDatabase.dat'
USE Master RESTORE DATABASE MyDatabase FROM DISK = 'C:MyDatabase.dat' WITH NORECOVERY, MOVE 'MyDatabase' TO 'C:Program FilesMicrosoft SQL ServerMSSQLDataMyDatabase.mdf', MOVE 'MyDatabase_log' TO 'C:Program FilesMicrosoft SQL ServerMSSQLDataLDFMyDatabase.ldf', REPLACE
RESTORE DATABASE MyDatabase FROM DISK = 'C:MyDatabase.dat'
using SMO. This logic works fine with small *.dat files, however when using *.dat file of about 4Gb I get an error on the 3d restore database call:
ExecuteNonQuery failed for Database 'master'.
An exception occurred while executing a Transact-SQL statement or batch.
Timeout expired. The timeout period elapsed prior to completion of the operation or the server is not responding.
Operator aborted backup or restore. See the error messages returned to the console for more details.
ExecuteNonQuery failed for Database 'master'.
An exception occurred while executing a Transact-SQL statement or batch.
Timeout expired. The timeout period elapsed prior to completion of the operation or the server is not responding.
Operator aborted backup or restore. See the error messages returned to the console for more details.
The same program/logic also works fine when I use MS SQL 2005 and it runs fine from MS SQL 2005 Query Analyzer for both 2005 and 2000 databases. There seem to be only problem with MS SQL 2000 from within VB.NET. Anybody has any idea? I'd appreciate any response. Thanks
Eugene
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Jun 19, 2007
Hi,
I've got a question regarding attaching/restoring of DBs and wonder if anyone could help me out.
Does SQL Server 2000 provide a functionality to attach/restore DB automatically? ie, some kind of polling service to attach/restore DB that were detached previously?
Thanks
Danny.
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Aug 11, 2004
Hello,
MSSQLSERVER VER : 2000
Using - Attach and Detach Database to move the database from one Server to another server.
I did detached the database from Production and attached my test server, everything OK
Questions about - syslogins & sysdevices data dictionary tables
1. When I select * from sysdevices on production it shows all the database name size,phyname etc. After attaching to my test server I cannot see these things.. I know because it different master database but, how do I fix this.
2. syslogins - is there way to move all the syslogins after attaching to test server.
Please let me know if you guys have done anything on this.
Thanks.
Regards,
K.
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May 23, 2006
How I can detach from DB and validate it?
(I mean check if it is detached or not)
Is there any why to return a value from sp_detach_db in C++?
(may a cross posting, please check under developer posts)
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Jan 4, 2002
I have developed a db on a local machine (98) and would like to move it to another machine running nt 4 where it will function as a production db. I am mapped to see the other server (called "labnt"). The drive on "labnt" is partitioned, with the c drive holding programs, and the e drive designed to hold the data.
I would like to move the db (called SNB01) to the MSSQLData subdirectory on the e-drive. I have tried the following sproc to detach:
EXEC sp_detach_db 'SNB01', 'true'
And the following to reattach:
EXEC sp_attach_db @dbname = 'SNB01',
@filename1 = 'labntewmssqldataSNB01_Data.mdf',
@filename2 = 'labntewmssqldataSNB01_log.ldf'
The above path was given me by our network admin guy.
QA gives the following error:
Server: Msg 5105, Level 16, State 4, Line 1
Device activation error. The physical file name 'labntewmssqldataSNB01_Data.mdf' may be incorrect.
Please help. I am thrashing about. D. Lewis
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Jun 9, 2008
Hello Experts, How Can i Attach and Detach my MDf file to an instance of SQL server 2005 Programatically or by T-SQL :)
ElmasryA1
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Mar 23, 2006
I created a db in ssms; I detached it and moved it into a subdirectory of a vb app. Now sql server says the database does not exist. If I recreate the database in smss, I can run an INSERT INTO using that db as the destination. However, this only works if I keep it in the mssql data directory. How can I move it to the apps subdirectory so that it can be deployed with the app and still work? BTW, I also tried creating the databases in VS2005 with same results.
This is the connection string (tried this and non-express version with same results):
strDbConn = "Provider=SQLNCLI;Data Source=.SQLEXPRESS; AttachDbFilename=" & DbPath & ";User Instance=True;Trusted_Connection=Yes"
This is the sql statement:
sqlCopyTable = "SELECT * INTO "
sqlCopyTable = sqlCopyTable & CleanDbName & ".dbo." & CleanTableName
sqlCopyTable = sqlCopyTable & " FROM " & RawTableName & ";"
ConnectSQLExpress RawDbPath, "Source"
ConnectSQLExpress CleanDbPath, "Destination"
SourceDbConn.Execute sqlCopyTable
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Oct 5, 2007
I am using sql server 2005 and unable to restore backup file(.bak) file when i ry to restore it to other database it shows following error
restore failed for server (microsoft.sqlserver.smo)
additional information:
system.data.sqlclient.sqlerror : the media set has 2 media families but only 1 are provided.All members nust be provided.(microsoft.sqlserver.smo)
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Mar 21, 2002
What problems could be invoked by stopping SQL Server and copying a user databases data and log files and pasting these files over existing files on another machine.
Ex:
MyDB on Server1
MyDB on Server2
Stop SQL Server Server1 and Server2
Copy Server1.MyDB files
Over write Server2.MyDB files
Start SQL Server Server1 and Server2
Make sense. This scenerio seems to work but wonder what side affects could result.
Any comments would be helpful!!
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Jun 9, 2008
Hello Professionals, How can i attach and detach my mdf file to an instanse of sql 2005 programatically or by T-SQL
ElmasryA1
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Apr 15, 2008
Hello all,
We are planning to change the location of the log files from my production server. We have setup the mirroring also for those databases. I know for the databases without mirroring job i could detach the database, copy the log file to the target location and attach the database with the new logfile location. But for the mirroring databases I don't have any idea how to do that. Could some body guide me thorugh the process on how to do this task? thank you very much for all your help!
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