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Hi,

Is there a preferred backup order for backing up data and log files?
Which is preferable to backup first?

Thank you,
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-- =============================================
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FILE = 'MultiFile',
FILE = 'MultiFile2'
TO Backup01
WITH
INIT

BACKUP DATABASE MultiFile
FILE = 'MultiFile3',
FILE = 'MultiFile4'
TO Backup02
WITH
INIT

BACKUP DATABASE MultiFile
FILE = 'MultiFile5'
TO Backup03
WITH
INIT


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RESTORE DATABASE MultiFile2
FILE = 'MultiFile',
FILE = 'MultiFile2',
FILE = 'MultiFile3',
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FILE = 'MultiFile5'
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MOVE 'MultiFile2' TO 'E:MSSQLDataaMultifile3.mdf',
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The volume on device 'Backup02' is not part of a multiple family media set. BACKUP WITH FORMAT can be used to form a new media set.
Server: Msg 3013, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
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2. The database must be up and operational 7x24x365 (except for one 4 hour window each month)
3. This is not the long-term solution; but I need something to tide us over until we can purchase additional storage capacity.


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