Backup Secondary Server After Log Shipping Applied
Feb 13, 2008
I have setup Log shipping between two SQL 2005 servers, and everything seems to be working well. The files are transferring and restoring correctly.
My question is whether I need to add any backup procedures for the secondary server to prevent the secondary server's log file size from growing continuously. Should I be doing a transaction log backup on the secondary server? Or will that break the Log chain?
If it makes a difference, the secondary server is in Standby mode after applying the logs.
Any advice would be appreciated,
~ Michelle
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Jan 14, 2008
Hello
We have set up Log shipping between Primary and Secondary DB. The secondary DB is right now option: Standby/Read-Only. I can not take Backup of Secondary DB now.
Shall we disable Log shipping and change the DB Option to Multi-user mode and take backup? or any different method, without disabling log shipping?
please advice. Thanks in advance.
Jay
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Oct 2, 2014
I have a scenario where a customer is going to be using Log Shipping to the DR site; however, we need to maintain the normal backup strategy on the current system. (i.e. Nightly Full, Every 6 Hour Differential and Hourly Transaction Log backup)I know how to setup Transaction Log Shipping and Fail-over to DR and backup but now the local backup strategy is going to be an issue. I use the [URL] .... maintenance solution currently.
Is it even possible to do regular backups locally keeping data integrity for your backup strategy with Transaction Log Shipping enabled?
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May 29, 2008
hi all,
For data ware house project, the reporting team needs to know the delta changes to the master database.
one way we were thinking was to use log shipping and run reports / ETL off the secondary server. But the team needs to know which records got changed and i was thinking of adding timestamp columns to the necessary tables (only on the secondary database schema) and that way we can track the changes.
But from my research, it seems like secondary database needs to have similar schema as promary database.
Is log shipping, can my secondary db have a bit different schema? if so how to do it?
If not, how to accomplish the above secanrio, with out adding new columns (if possible) in the master database and with low over head.
thanks
lucy
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Oct 2, 2006
Hi,
We have SQL Server 2005 configured with mirroring to protect from physical errors. We also have a need for an (out of sync is ok) reporting server and we'd like to reduce our downtime in the event of a logical error.
The primary database is already being backed up (full and t-logs) to a shared network drive.
Can I implement the second half of log shipping (i.e. the stuff you do to the secondary) so that I don't have to change the current backup schedules on the primary server?
Specifically in the list of sp's below, can I start halfway down at sp_add_log_shipping_secondary_primary (Transact-SQL) ?? Without having to run the primary sp's?
sp_add_log_shipping_primary_database (Transact-SQL)
sp_add_jobschedule (Transact-SQL)
sp_add_log_shipping_alert_job (Transact-SQL)
sp_add_log_shipping_secondary_primary (Transact-SQL)
sp_add_log_shipping_secondary_database (Transact-SQL)
sp_add_log_shipping_primary_secondary (Transact-SQL)
Or do I have to ditch my current backup maintenance plans on the primary and start again?
Thanks
Ed
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Dec 29, 2007
I made B server which get logs from primary server A as a secondary server in the log shipping solution.
it always shows RESTORING in B server, it seems not to accessible.
my question is <if A failed down , how to revoke the B server as the primary one>
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May 12, 2008
We are using MSSQL 2005 and Log Shipping.
After making our secondary SQL server primary, how can we put the secondary SQL server back into standby mode?
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Nov 6, 2006
We're planning to implement log shipping on our databases, and I have been toiling with it all weekend trying to get it to work on some test databases. The result is the same whether I do it via the wizard or manually via T-SQL.
I am using 3 servers, all SQL Server 2005 Standard SP1. All 3 SQL Servers are configured identically.
When I setup log shipping, it initializes with no problems. When it processes the first tran log file, it restores it with no problem. Every successive log file thereafter is not restored. No errors are generated. The only outright indication of a problem is that the monitor server shows that there has not been a recent restore.
The backup and copy both suceed. The restore claims to suceed. If I review the job history for each step, it says that it skipped the log file and then reports that it did not fina any log files to restore.
Message
2006-11-06 05:00:01.92 Skipped log backup file. Secondary DB: 'MyDemo', File: 'D:MSSQLBackupMyDemoMyDemo_20061106115619.trn'
Message
2006-11-06 05:00:01.95 Could not find a log backup file that could be applied to secondary database 'MyDemo'.
2006-11-06 05:00:01.96 The restore operation was successful. Secondary Database: 'MyDemo', Number of log backup files restored: 0
Any ideas or suggestions?
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Jun 3, 2015
I checked the server and found that LS restore job failing and Backup and copy jobs running fine without any issue. and also observed that Copy folder the trn file existing on secondary server. i try to restore trn file im getting the error. and observed that last log backup file that it restored at the secondary database on May2nd,2015.
2015-06-02 12:25:00.72*** Error: The log in this backup set begins at LSN 761571000000022500001, which is too recent to apply to the database. An earlier log backup that includes LSN 721381000002384200001 can be restored.
From Restore job histort details below.
Message
2015-06-02 12:25:00.72*** Error: The file 'xxxx\_20150530104503.trn' is too recent to apply to the secondary database 'database'.(Microsoft.SqlServer.Management.LogShipping) ***
2015-06-02 12:25:00.72*** Error: The log in this backup set begins at LSN 761571000000022500001, which is too recent to apply to the database. An earlier log backup that includes LSN 721381000002384200001 can be restored.
RESTORE LOG is terminating abnormally.(.Net SqlClient Data Provider) ***
2015-06-02 12:25:00.73Searching for an older log backup file. Secondary Database: 'database'
2015-06-02 12:25:00.73*** Error: Could not find a log backup file that could be applied to secondary database 'database'.(Microsoft.SqlServer.Management.LogShipping) ***
2015-06-02 12:25:00.74Deleting old log backup files. Primary Database: 'database'
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May 5, 2015
We tried to configure log shipping using script generated by GUI and when executed specific script which is meant for secondary server the database is not created and threw below error.
Msg 15010, Level 16, State 1, Procedure sp_add_log_shipping_secondary_database, Line 50
The database 'BUBALLO' does not exist. Supply a valid database name. To see available databases, use sys.databases.Â
Note:Â Only Copy, restore and alerts jobs have been created.
The account I'm trying to configure log shipping is the service account by which SQL and agent services are running and folder in where data and log files are intended and to be created is open to all (everybody has read/write permissioins) believe the issue is not with permissions.
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Apr 24, 2007
I set up Log Shipping with just 2 servers primary and secondary. When I run from the Wizard for the very first time keeps failing at the stage of saving Secondary Server Configuration info. When i instead run the generated script this problem disappears but then restoring of transactions fails - the process can backup transactions from the Primary server , copy them accross to the secondary and fails on the restore. Any ideas why.
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Jun 26, 2007
Good day to the people who's reading this post!
I have some trouble with shipping my transaction logs to the secondary database be it on
another server or within the same server to another database instance.
Im using SQL Server 2005 workGroup editions with Service Pack 2.
Here are the problems that i encountered.
I do hope someone has bumped into such a problem and willing to help me out.
I tried on 2 separate servers (not domain environment) and also between 2 separate instances
(which is supposed to be simple!) on
our development server,but was unsuccessful.
Between 2 separate instances on the development server -
No error after configuring Log shipping though.
The configuring went through and it was a success.
Transaction logs was backup every minute and it got copied over to the other folder.
But SQL Agent not doing its last job which is supposed to restore to the secondary database on
another instance.No errors given out in SQL Agent error log files.Anywhere else im supposed to
look to see if there are errors given out?
Both instances SQL Agent has the same log on username and password with Administartive rights
So what went wrong?
Between the 2 servers-
The transaction logs was backup every 1min on the primary server
but it didn't got copied over to to the secondary database.
- Error message given was:Error in restoring database to the secondary
database.Network path given could not be found. Can't open the AxTest.bak file.
(i am very sure i have type the correct network path,even have shared it out and i think the firewall
is blocking incoming traffic since unlike our development server,
which allows us to access when we use Start>Run and type in the ip address,user name
and password,the primary server will only tell me no network path was found)
I also believe it's because the SQL Agent on the secondary database server wasn't given
permission to access the primary database folder.
I've shared out the drive and folder on the secondary server and
even have allowed SQL Agent to read,write and modify on both servers.
For the primary and secondary SQL Agent,
I configure their log on to be the same user account name and password
which have administrative rights.
So what went wrong?
Isit really true that both servers have to be in domain environment before you can configure log
shipping,mirroring and replication?
Hope someone help me out of this predicament.Thank you in advance!
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Sep 5, 2015
I want to configure the logshipping to secondary database.
Already the primary database transaction log backup running every 15 minutes through (maintanance plan)
I want to skip the transaction log backup job in logshipping configuartion(disable the job)
want to use the existing transaction log backup and copy and restore in secondary using logshipping configuration
is it possible in sql 2008 r2 standard edition.
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Apr 23, 2008
I am new to this environment and was asked to ensure that the transaction log shipping for SQL 2005 on W2K3 boxes is working properly. I noticed the db's on the secondary server are show "Restoring..." I am not sure if these were set up in No Recover Mode or Standby Mode. I have no access to the secondary db's. I get an error message when trying to access them (error 927). Monitoring was not set up initially and as you may or may not know can't be turned on after the fact...unless you delete the job and start over.
My question is is "Restoring..." normal and what does it indicate?
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Apr 19, 2006
Dear All
Please I need an urgent help
After i finished all Transaction Log Shipping Configuration.
I tried to use the database in the secondary database but i couldn't access it
i saw it in SQL Managment Studio as (Restoring......)
i tired to make a database snapshot from it , i had a message
Msg 1822, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
The database must be online to have a database snapshot.
Please urgently
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Dec 13, 2006
Hi,
I am trying to implement a log shipping scenario in sql 2005 where the secondary server is in standby mode with the ability to roll change during failover.
With the help of BOL (ms-help://MS.SQLCC.v9/MS.SQLSVR.v9.en/udb9/html/2d7cc40a-47e8-4419-9b2b-7c69f700e806.htm) I can implement my scenario in Recovery mode, but not in standby mode. I use the following sql to put my primary in standby
BACKUP LOG [database]
TO DISK = @filename
WITH STANDBY = 'C:Program FilesMicrosoft SQL ServerMSSQL.1MSSQLBackupROLLBACK_UNDO_database.BAK'
GO
which works, but then my restore job fails on the last step. How can I put my primary db in standby mode in such a way that the log shipping restore will work?
Thanks
Andy
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Nov 12, 2014
Recently I have faced one DBA interview, below is the question they asked me.
" Does AlwaysON secondary replica support Full backup, if it is not why"?
I know AlwaysON secondary replicas support only copy_only and tlog backups, why they wont support full backup?
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Mar 17, 2014
I've configured log shipping to use for DR purposes. I'm concerned that the physical location of the secondary is mis-reported by SQL Server Management Studio.
Viewing the secondary location (with Studio DB_name Properties Files) shows the path of the primary DB (I expected it to show the path of the secondary).
This SQL command shows the correct/actual paths of both primary and secondary DB's when run on their host servers.
SELECT name, physical_name AS CurrentLocation, state_desc FROM sys.master_files
Is this just cosmetic?
Here is an Example of how the Studio shows the incorrect path for the secondary.
Example:
(Primary) servername=prodSrv, DBname=aquaDB, Actual_Path=G:aquaDB, SQL-studio-Properties-Path=G:AquaDB, sys.master_files Path=G:AquaDB,
Log shipped to
(Secondary / Read Only) servername=DRSrv, DBname=aquaDB, Actual Path=F:aquaDR, SQL-studio-Properties-Path=G:AquaDB(WRONG), sys.master_files Path=F:aquaDR
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Jun 18, 2015
I received an alert from one of my two secondary servers (all servers are running 2012 SP1):
File 'E:SQLMS SQL ServerMSSQL11.MSSQLSERVERMSSQLDATAMyDatabaseName_DateTime.tuf' is not a valid undo file for database 'MyDatabaseName (database ID 8). Verify the file path, and specify the correct file.
The detail in the job step shows this additional information:
*** Error: Could not apply log backup file 'MyDatabaseName_DateTime.trn' to secondary database 'MyDatabaseName'.(Microsoft.SqlServer.Management.LogShipping) ***
*** Error: Table error: Page (0:0). Test (m_headerVersion == HEADER_7_0) failed. Values are 0 and 1.
Table error: Page (0:0). Test ((m_type >= DATA_PAGE && m_type <= UNDOFILE_HEADER_PAGE) || (m_type == UNKNOWN_PAGE && level == BASIC_HEADER)) failed. Values are 0 and 0.
Table error: Page (0:0). Test (m_freeData >= PageHeaderOverhead () && m_freeData <= (UINT)PAGESIZE - m_slotCnt * sizeof (Slot)) failed. Values are 0 and 8192.
Starting a few minutes later, the Agent Job named LSRestore_MyServerName_MyDatabaseName fails every time it runs. The generated log backup, copy, and restore jobs run every 15 minutes.
I fixed the immediate problem by running a copy-only full backup on the primary, deleting the database on the secondary and restoring the new backup on the secondary with NORECOVERY. The restore job now succeeds and all seems fine. The secondaries only exists for DR purposes - no one runs reports against them or uses them at all. I had a similar problem last weekend on a different database that is also replicated between the same servers. I've been here for over a year, and these are the first instances of this problem that I've seen. However, I've now seen it twice in a week on the same server.
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Jan 24, 2015
i have created a new login in primary server and provided dbowner permission to primary db.how do i transfer this login to secondary server and assign the same permission to secondary db ?
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Dec 8, 2006
Hey all-
I am working to establish a backup plan for SQL Server 2000. We are currently doing log shipping between servers.
A full backup once a week
transaction log backup every hour
We run a bulk deletion (delete * from table where date < ninetydays) which deletes 22,000 rows approximately. We are running in Full Recovery mode.
I wonder if there was anyway to improve my backup plan, preferably minimizing logging when the deletion takes place but still backup the data with log shipping.
Let me know if any of you have ideas. Thanks
Nate
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May 29, 2007
I have a 20 GB SS2005 database that I would like to be replicated to a dev server for testing purposes. I might have some issues with the firewall blocking ports. I haven't read up on the specifics of how log shipping works yet, but I assume that is the best approach. A daily transfer would suffice.
A few options I am considering:
1. use the built in stuff, but I'm not sure it will work with our security settings, and if the trans logs are large it might be strained.
2. writing a small custom app to zip up the log file then ftp them down to the dev server. This could run nightly.
3. some third party util, such as FolderShare could transfer the log files
Any comments or suggestions?
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Apr 20, 2015
I have not used log shipping before and find myself in a position where I need to reboot the secondary node and then the primary node and I don't actually need to failover.
Is there anything I need to be aware of. When rebooting the secondary node I assume the transactions will be held in the primary nodes log till the secondary comes back and just carry on once back up?
When rebooting the primary node nothing needs to be done and the log shipping will just start again once it has come back?
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Nov 2, 2015
2 Boxes in HA, identical hardware (VMs) and both utilising identical storage systems (Nimble SANs).Was needing to do a copy only backup of a few databases for an escrow environment we have, so decided to perform this on the secondary box.Small ~10GB ish database first, seemed to be really slow, so opened resource monitor and noticed that disk read / write was getting limited to about 15MB/s so took a little while (the big one is over 1TB)
Tried this again on the primary it was done in seconds disk rate in the order of 250MB/s (same settings re compression etc).. I decided to make a copy of the backup file on the secondary, the copy disk to disk went in the region of 150MB/s , so it appears that SQL Server is the bottleneck?
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Aug 6, 2014
I was working on a job to send me info each morning about database file free space and was noticing some odd things when looking at the log file VLFs for one of my databases in an AlwaysOn availability group.When I run DBCC LOGINFO on the secondary replica for this database, I get what I expect and most VLFs have a status of 0 (indicating the VLFs are reusable or unused). When I run DBCC LOGINFO on the primary replica, all of the VLFs have a status of 2 (active or recoverable).
Since log backups on the secondary replica in AlwaysOn still truncate the log in the primary replica, I would expect that the VLFs in the primary replica would also be mostly in a reusable or unused state. My log file sizes are the same size on each server and my backups are completing successfully. what might be causing the VLFs on the primary replica to have a status of 2 in DBCC LOGINFO when taking log backups from the secondary replica?
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Nov 6, 2015
I need to copy a just-created bak file to another drive after the backup task has completed. I don't see anything in the job toolbox which works with file system operations like this. But still it must be a common need..There are ways to script this or use third part tools but I am looking for something native to the sql server 2012 SSMS toolset, if possible.
An alternate approach would be to run the backup job again, after the main backup, and change the destination to the alternate location. But I was thinking that another backup job would probably invoke more overhead on the server than a simple file copy operation. If I do end up taking this approach I could also use the cleanup task to toss older bak files in the alt dir.
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Dec 5, 2007
Hi all,
We have log shipping set up for some our databases.
So, my question is, Can i take a FULL BACKUP of databases which are involved in log shiping at primary.
--> Please give your comments on this.
Thanks.
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Apr 9, 2008
Hello,
I have an SQL 2005 maintenance plan that backups up the t-logs of my production db every 15 minutes. I want to begin log shipping over to a warm-standby secondary server. The network share, log shipping folder is not the same folder location as my maintenance plan folder. My question is, do I need to disable the maintenance plan for tlog backups in order for log shipping to be sucessful? Or will the dual backups to seperate backup folder locations cause a failure in the secondary server restore process?
I suspect the latter but wanted a second opinion.
Thanks.
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May 29, 2008
Does anyone know if you can delete the initial backup file created (xxx_init.bak) on the secondary server after setting up Log Shipping?
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Jan 17, 2008
Hi everyone,
I'm trying to configure log shipping on a 2005 sql server. I follow the wizard's instructions (see http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms190640.aspx) and everything looks right except for the backup job that somehow is not being created on the primary server. Secondary server contains copy, restore and alert jobs.
No errors reported on job monitor.
Any ideas?
Regards,
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Jul 14, 2007
Hi!
i have a question regarding tail log backup.
I have set up logshipping between primary and secondary servers. Now when i want to fail-over to secondary, I am planning to take the tail log backup on primary
backup log primarydb
to disk=N'..',
with norecovery
and then I will restore this tail log backup to secondary
restore log secondarydb
from disk=N'',
with recovery
Will there be any issue with this approach?
Will I be able to recovery the primarydb if i want to, in future? Taking tail log backup doesnt cause any issues? Or do i need to take the full backup of primary before I take tail log backup..in case if I can not recover the primary db after taking the log backup?
How big the tail log backup can be? Will it be of similar size of other normal transactional log backups.?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
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Dec 19, 2007
We have a critical Production database on which we want to setup Log-Shipping. We have also purchased the Symantec NetBackup utility for taking Backup to Tape Drives.
We Know that there are some inherent problems with using Log-Shipping and a Backup Strategy together, and thus we were finding out various ways in which we can run both in tandem.
One of them was taking the Symantec Log backups with Copy-Only option.
The main problem with this is that the Symantec Backups becomes dependent on the Log-Shipping Backups and also most of their Log-Backups become useless. Also, we are not sure whether the utility allows Copy-Only backups
The second alternative was to disable the Backup job of Log-Shipping on the Primary Server and to use the Log-Backups done by the Symantec utility for performing the Restores on the Secondary.
Thus, if Log-Shipping is scheduled to run say every 4 hrs, and the Symantec Log-backup happens every 1 hour, then at an interval of every 4 hrs, the Restore Job on the secondary will pick up the 4 backups done by the Symantec Backup utility and Restore each one of them in sequential manner.
But, I guess it is not easy to have a manual Restore Policy in place.
I was really banking on this solution until I found that the Restore Job of the Log-Shipping setup is dependent on the Filename of the Transaction log file which the systems generates automatically, and it won€™t be easy to create a customized Restore Job on the secondary server which takes in all the Log Backups generated by the Symantec Backup utility and Restore the Secondary database.
Have any one of you ever face this issue? Would like to know what is the best way to keep both of them running together.
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Feb 1, 2008
Hi
Im planning to setup sqlserver 2005 log shipping between two servers.The size of the database is around 50GB and we are taking transaction log backup and shipping at 30mins interval.
Suppose if the backup job couldnt take the transaction log backup with in the specified interval ie 30mins,then how does the copy and restore job works. Will it give an error saying tht the transaction log could nt be copied and restored ???
How to deal with this kind of situations where the backup is taking more time than the threshold time limit and ur copy,restore fails. Is there a way to handle this kind of situation in logshipping Sqlserver 2005.
and how does it affect the Secondary database. ??
Please help me out !!
Thnkx in advance
Regards
Arvind L
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