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Aug 4, 2005

I've been using databases for twenty years now and have just started using SQL Server 2000. I've used dbase III+, FoxPro and FileMaker Pro mostly and have a pretty good generally knowledge of databases. However, I'm constantly scratching my head over a few SQL Server foundational issues and would appreciate some help.

Probably the biggest question is this:
In FileMaker Pro (and FoxPro if I remember correctly), I would set the relationship once and then never have to think about it much again. Then I could create virtual tables and sub forms which contained data from several tables and view/update them with ease. However, in SQL Server I've noticed that while I can define the relationships in a database diagram, every query has to recreate the joines. If I try to use a view I can only update one table at a time which seesm whacky to me. So what on earth is the point of having relationships if you have to redefine them with each query? I've read that referrential integrity is the reason but that only baffles me further as I don't understand the point. Sure I get cascading deletes but there has to be more to the feature than that.

Also, when I want to insert data in multiple related tables I'm used to utilizing the existing relationship, mentioning the primary key once and then simply filling in the data. It seems in SQL Server that I have to also insert on the foreign key. This doesn't make sense as the database should know which record I'm talking about in the foreign key table(s) as they're related. Again though, I'm not only recreating the relationship in the insert but I'm also having to specify the foreign key. I guess it just makes me wonder why it's not simply checking the relationships which already exist.

So I'm a bit baffled and any help would be most appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

Kelly

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I'm having a mental block here and would like to get things straight. All this while trying to learn and deploy SSB.



I belive my scenario is perfect for this solution. So I'm asking for your help. Simply I have the following process:

1. A record is inserted into a table.

2. Take this transaction and convert to XML file

3. Send XML version to web service where it is processed and the result is returned.

4. take the result and insert as into a different table (from the first).



My requirement to this process is that each step updates a status indicator in the original table. Second, since communication to the web service is not reliable, the message should retry until service is restored. Or failing that, after a timeout, should be in a state that can be restarted. And, lastly, the process sohuld be restartale in the event of failure.



I'm confident that the tasks and requirements are pretty simple and straighforward. But I'm not sure of the implementation.

1. Created initial record table.

2. Created SQL statement that converts single row to XML document

3. Created CLR Stored procedure that takes an XML and submits to Web Service and collects response.



So I think the question are;

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2. Do I create an intermediate table that feeds a queuefor the return message.

3. Where do I place the logic to update the Status flag? At the beginning of the next step? or the end of the executing step?

4. How do I ensure that a transaction is not lost from the time sent to the web service to the receipt of the response?





I'm using 'Pro SQL Server 2005' by Thomas Rizzo as a reference. Are there any better references? Most google responses seem to point to articles reiterating the base concepts. Would the 'Pro Sql 2005 Service Broker' book provide answers to my questions?

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TCP 81.105.102.47:1135 217.194.210.169:1433 ESTABLISHED

TCP 127.0.0.1:1031 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING

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TCP 127.0.0.1:51114 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING

TCP 127.0.0.1:51201 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING

TCP 127.0.0.1:51202 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING

TCP 127.0.0.1:51203 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING

TCP 127.0.0.1:51204 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING

TCP 127.0.0.1:51206 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING

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UDP 0.0.0.0:500 *:*

UDP 0.0.0.0:1025 *:*

UDP 0.0.0.0:1030 *:*

UDP 0.0.0.0:3456 *:*

UDP 0.0.0.0:4500 *:*

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UDP 81.105.102.47:1900 *:*

UDP 81.105.102.47:5353 *:*

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UDP 127.0.0.1:1086 *:*

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I can ping the server

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No I do not force encryption

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