Can I Handle Hierarchies Like Oracle ?

Jan 25, 2004

Hi SQL Server Experts,

Oracle has a 'Connect by prior' extension to SQL that is neat for display hierarchies.

Does SQL Server have anything simialr or would I use T-SQL or ???

I will appreciate any suggestions and advice.

B.Dimple
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[Dimension].[All Hierarchies].[All] ?

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As promised, question #2... ;)

As I mentioned in my previous post, my "real" case is a cube with 79 dimensions, most of which virtual, have been added for convenience.

Think for instance about a time dimension... Wouldn't it be nice to get a matrix with years horizontally, months vertically and displaying say the number of order you had for each cell in the resulting grid.
Ok, maybe you can do this with MDX but not in Excel, unless you create virtual dimensions for the Year and Month levels.

That's all good, but as it is, in my real case, I end up with four date dimensions for which I have to provide:

YQMD (Year, Quarter, Month & Day) hirarchized dimension
YWD (Year, Week, Day)
YQMD (Fiscal calendar)
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Month
Week
Day (as 1, .. 31)
Week Day (for periodicity analysis over a week's time)
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SubCube: {[Measures].[Session Count]}, DESCENDANTS([Business Unit].[All]), DESCENDANTS([Channel Source].[All]), DESCENDANTS([Currency].[All]), DESCENDANTS([FO Product Segment].[All]), DESCENDANTS([FO Quarter].[All]), DESCENDANTS([FO Value Segment].[All]), DESCENDANTS([Is Cancelled].[All]), DESCENDANTS([Is Customer Care].[All]), DESCENDANTS([Is Design Services].[All]), DESCENDANTS([Is Direct].[All]), DESCENDANTS([Is Estimated].[All]), DESCENDANTS([Is Holiday Order].[All]), DESCENDANTS([Is New].[All]), DESCENDANTS([Is Sales Services].[All]), DESCENDANTS([Language].[All]), DESCENDANTS([Payment].[All]), DESCENDANTS([Product Segment].[All]), DESCENDANTS([Value Segment].[All]), DESCENDANTS([FO Channel].[All]), DESCENDANTS([Reg Channel].[All]), DESCENDANTS([FCD].[Date].[All]), DESCENDANTS([FCD].[Day].[All]), DESCENDANTS([FCD].[Mth].[All]), DESCENDANTS([FCD].[Qtr].[All]), DESCENDANTS([FCD].[Wk].[All]), DESCENDANTS([FCD].[WkDay].[All]), DESCENDANTS([FCD].[Year].[All]), DESCENDANTS([FCD].[Fiscal].[All]), DESCENDANTS([FCD].[YMQD].[All]), DESCENDANTS([FCD].[YWD].[All]), DESCENDANTS([FRD].[Date].[All]), DESCENDANTS([FRD].[Day].[All]), DESCENDANTS([FRD].[Mth].[All]), DESCENDANTS([FRD].[Qtr].[All]), DESCENDANTS([FRD].[Wk].[All]), DESCENDANTS([FRD].[WkDay].[All]), DESCENDANTS([FRD].[Year].[All]), DESCENDANTS([FRD].[Fiscal].[All]), DESCENDANTS([FRD].[YQMD].[All]), DESCENDANTS([FRD].[YWD].[All]), DESCENDANTS([FSD].[Date].[All]), DESCENDANTS([FSD].[Day].[All]), DESCENDANTS([FSD].[Mth].[All]), DESCENDANTS([FSD].[Qtr].[All]), DESCENDANTS([FSD].[Wk].[All]), DESCENDANTS([FSD].[WkDay].[All]), DESCENDANTS([FSD].[Year].[All]), DESCENDANTS([FSD].[Fiscal].[All]), DESCENDANTS([FSD].[YQMD].[All]), DESCENDANTS([FSD].[YWD].[All])

Caculation Value: CalculationPassValue(([Business Unit].[All],[Channel Source].[All],[Currency].[All],[FO Product Segment].[All],[FO Quarter].[All],[FO Value Segment].[All],[Is Cancelled].[All],[Is Customer Care].[All],[Is Design Services].[All],[Is Direct].[All],[Is Estimated].[All],[Is Holiday Order].[All],[Is New].[All],[Is Sales Services].[All],[Language].[All],[Payment].[All],[Product Segment].[All],[Value Segment].[All],[FO Channel].[All],[Reg Channel].[All],[FCD].[Date].[All],[FCD].[Day].[All],[FCD].[Mth].[All],[FCD].[Qtr].[All],[FCD].[Wk].[All],[FCD].[WkDay].[All],[FCD].[Year].[All],[FCD].[Fiscal].[All],[FCD].[YMQD].[All],[FCD].[YWD].[All],[FRD].[Date].[All],[FRD].[Day].[All],[FRD].[Mth].[All],[FRD].[Qtr].[All],[FRD].[Wk].[All],[FRD].[WkDay].[All],[FRD].[Year].[All],[FRD].[Fiscal].[All],[FRD].[YQMD].[All],[FRD].[YWD].[All],[FSD].[Date].[All],[FSD].[Day].[All],[FSD].[Mth].[All],[FSD].[Qtr].[All],[FSD].[Wk].[All],[FSD].[WkDay].[All],[FSD].[Year].[All],[FSD].[Fiscal].[All],[FSD].[YQMD].[All],[FSD].[YWD].[All],[Measures].[Session Count]), 0)

If you read all this, you can see already the cryptic dimension names like "FRD", "FSD" and so forth... that's because with the real names ("First Refund Date", "First Ship Date", the query processor errored out... visibly there is a limit in the size of the formulas you can post!

Is there no other way to achieve this result? Basically I mean to say: if the session count is not defined at your level along this dimension, go to the root of the dimension to get the value there, this along a slew of dimensions, many of which are inherently dependent because of the usage of virtual dimensions (therefore if I wish to go to the root of my "First Refund Date" for instance, I wish to do so along all sub-dimensions... Heck, as far as I'm concerned this is conceptually only ONE dimension, just with various views upon it...

Using hierachies I was sort of hoping for the ability to have something like:
[FRD].[All Hierachies].[All]

Am I just asking for too much or do I just not know (quite probable) the magic keyword that can do this?

Where this is becoming quite critical is that I actually have a calculated cell that goes as follows (abridged):

SubCube: similar as before

Calculation: [Measures].[Order Count]*CalculationPassValue((...set of all un-tied dimension roots..., [Measures].[Distributed Marketing Cost])/CalculationPassValue((...set of all un-tied dimension roots..., [Measures].[Order Count])

Now the purpose of this is to distribute external costs at the order level. In short, say that you know you spent $10,000 globally promoting a specific group of websites in commission money (you pay $1 for each order). This formula allows me to get that a specific website, with 20 orders incurred an additional marketing cost of $20. That's actually the object of my next thread's question (spreading a multiplication through the aggregations)

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