Concurrent Insert And Update Commands
Mar 20, 2006
Hi there,
I've had a look at this thread - http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=104399&SiteID=1 - but it's a bit old so I thought I'd try to clarify a couple of things.
I have a data flow which inserts or updates a table in a SQL 2000 database.
The insert is done via an OLE DB destination and the update is done via an OLE DB Command.
As stated in the previous thread, when these commands run concurrently issues arise with blocking etc.
The only way I've managed to get around it is by setting the access mode of the insert to OpenRowset.
So 2 questions:
1) Does anyone know how this problem occurrs and what the best way to get around it is?
2) Are there issues around NOT using the fast load options - I've read stuff about the double-byte character set etc but I admit I don't quite understand it.
Thanks.
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Oct 7, 2005
I've got a quite simple data task.
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I was wondering if it was possible to run 2 queries at the same time,IE rather than runningexec query1 exec query2 and having to wait for query1 to finish before query2 started, just have them run at the same time (they're not conflicting).I want to do this in TSQL, not by opening another query window in vs2005.
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Feb 23, 2007
Here is my problem :
I issue an insert statement to the db. While I am getting a
return value of 1 (1 row was affected) the values never show up into
the db when I open the DB in access. However, I can see the data
when it does an SQL select inside the program. So for instance, I
do an insert into ORDER values (1, 12, 5.99). (1 = item ID, 12 =
quantity, 5.99 = price). I then do a select * from Order, and I
get those values back. When I open the DB in access, in between
doing the insert and the select, I dont see the values there
either. It is like it is making a temporary copy of the DB in
memory during the execution only. When I close the program and
re-F5, the data is no longer there. Maybe we need some kind of
commit transaction? What am I doing wrong? I am using
VB.Net 2005/MS Access 2003. Here is the relevant code :
Private m_Connection As OleDbConnection
''' <summary>
''' Defines the path to the database.
''' </summary>
''' <remarks></remarks>
#If CONFIG = "Debug" Then
Public Const DB_PATH As String = "DBsDB_Test.mdb"
#ElseIf CONFIG = "Release" Then
Public Const DB_PATH As String = "DBsDB_Production.mdb"
#End If
Sub connect(ByVal p_path As String) Implements IPartyDBase.connect
Dim connect_string As String = "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;" _
& "Data Source=" & p_path
m_Connection = New OleDbConnection(connect_string)
m_Connection.Open()
End Sub
Sub someSub(ByVal stock As StockClass)
Dim tempString
Dim command As OleDbCommand
command = m_Connection.CreateCommand
command.CommandType = CommandType.Text
tempString = "Insert into Stock VALUES (" & stock.ID & ", "
tempString = tempString & stock.Quantity & ", "
tempString = tempString & stock.Price & ")"
Dim tempInt as Integer
command.CommandText = tempString
tempInt = command.ExecuteNonQuery
If Not tempInt = 1 Then
Throw New Exception("Bad addStockToDB into Stock " & tempInt)
End If
End Sub
Sub anotherSub
p_dbase.connect(PartyDBaseAccess.DB_PATH)
p_dbase.someSub()
p_dbase.close()
End Sub
Edit : During execution, looking under bin/debug/DBs, there is a copy
of the database that has all the transactions I did during execution...
but the actual DB isnt being updated/copied over.
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Jul 24, 2007
I've just finished configuring the SELECT command for the SqlDataSource in my ASP.NET 2.0 web app. It works fine and runs against a SQL Server 2005 database, using a stored procedure that I've written.
So, then I went to configure the SqlDataSource for the UPDATE and INSERT commands, and I've written two SP's for those as well. In the designer the second form of the wizard asks for the Select statement. I've already given that for the SELECT statement in the third form, and I also select the INSERT tab to specify the SP I want to use for inserting data and the UPDATE tab to specify the SP I want to use for updating data. However, there appears to be no way that I can specify what the parameters are supposed to be for anything other than the SELECT command, through the designer. Is that correct, or have I missed something?
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May 6, 2006
I have a puzzle in my mind here. I will thank anyone who can solve my puzzle.
I am not familiar with SQL and its theories behind, so please bear with me if I am asking a stupid newbie question.
My puzzle is generally a problem of generating sequence numbers. The following SQL is only a stripped down version - it fetches the max number, add 1 to it and updates the table with the new number.
DECLARE @max int
SELECT @max = MAX(next_number) + 1 from sequence_numbers
UPDATE sequence_numbers SET next_number = @max WHERE next_number = @max
Now if user1 gets 100 and user2 also gets 100 and they both try to update the table, what would happen? I fear that the result would be 101.
One of my coworker thinks that adding 'WHERE next_number = @max' can solve the conflict - user2 will fail. His reasoning is like this:
After user1 updates the table, next_number would be 101 and user2's update will fail because his WHERE criteria is still 100.
But I think user2 still sees the old data (100) and still succeeds and thus both users update the table with number 101.
Thanks.
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Jan 16, 2008
Is there a way to have two sql update commands so I can use both during an update depending on which row it is?
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Mar 28, 2007
Visual Studio 2005
i have insert and update statements. they don't produce any errors but no
changes happen in my tables. are there any possible reason for this. i used
sqlcommand and even stored procedures but still the same.
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Jan 22, 2007
Hello, what i want is simple.
This is a simple forum, it has several topics (that the users can create), when a user create a topic, its stored in forum_topics. The user can then view the topic and post a response that is store in forum_answer, the user can also add this to his favorite list, forum_favorites is simple, contains a TopicID that refers to the topic, a username of the user that has the topic on his favorite list and a auto increment id to be able to delete specified topic favorites.
Now my question is: when a user posts a answer to Topic X, i want a predefined message to be sent to post_inbox for all the users that has Topic X in their favorite list.
How can i get MS SQL 2005 to get all the users from Topic X and then loop thru them and insert a new post into post_inbox?
Patrick
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Oct 6, 2015
I'm running a update on a table and it appears to work. But when I check the data about 10 mins later it has been reversed back to the original form!
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Wondering what's the preferred method for this. I've got a scenario that a user is updating some content on a page and I need to update my word catalogs for my search feature. I have some code currently to filter out words that are too small, make sure there are no duplicates and to count how many occurrences there are of each. What I'm wondering is, does it make more sense to do a loop in my code to run all the insert commands to place the new words in the database, should I try sticking them together in one string and parse them when they get up there or is there a better method someone can suggest?
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I'm building a simple webform, except Visual Studio and my service provider have combined to drive me nutty.
First, I MUST use an ODBC connection to my remote SQL Server do to some unknown configuartion problem. I've been playing with Visual Studio for only a month, so normally when something goes wrong I can go look in the mirror and find the culprit. This is different. I've got a totally functional web form with a SQL Connection, but when I try to change it to an ODBC Connection, I get the following error.
An OdbcParameter with ParameterName '@CertHolder' is not contained by this OdbcParameterCollection
My coding is fine because I stole it straight from the walkthrough and it works. But the specifications that Visual Studio provide are quite suspect. Please note the failure to include some key "@" signs.
#Region " Web Form Designer Generated Code "
'This call is required by the Web Form Designer.
<System.Diagnostics.DebuggerStepThrough()> Private Sub InitializeComponent()
Me.SqlConnection1 = New System.Data.SqlClient.SqlConnection
Me.cmdUpdate = New System.Data.SqlClient.SqlCommand
Me.cmdGetAll = New System.Data.SqlClient.SqlCommand
Me.cmdSelect = New System.Data.SqlClient.SqlCommand
Me.OdbcConnection1 = New System.Data.Odbc.OdbcConnection
Me.OdbcGetAll = New System.Data.Odbc.OdbcCommand
Me.OdbcSelect = New System.Data.Odbc.OdbcCommand
Me.OdbcUpdate = New System.Data.Odbc.OdbcCommand
'
'SqlConnection1
'
Me.SqlConnection1.ConnectionString = "this works fine"
'
'cmdUpdate
'
Me.cmdUpdate.CommandText = "UPDATE InsuranceData SET Name = @Name, Address = @Address, Address2 = @Address2, " & _
"City = @City, State = @State, Zip = @Zip, CertHolder = WHERE (CertHolder = @Cert" & _
"Holder)"
Me.cmdUpdate.Connection = Me.SqlConnection1
Me.cmdUpdate.Parameters.Add(New System.Data.SqlClient.SqlParameter("@Name", System.Data.SqlDbType.NVarChar, 50, "Name"))
Me.cmdUpdate.Parameters.Add(New System.Data.SqlClient.SqlParameter("@Address", System.Data.SqlDbType.NVarChar, 50, "Address"))
Me.cmdUpdate.Parameters.Add(New System.Data.SqlClient.SqlParameter("@Address2", System.Data.SqlDbType.NVarChar, 50, "Address2"))
Me.cmdUpdate.Parameters.Add(New System.Data.SqlClient.SqlParameter("@City", System.Data.SqlDbType.NVarChar, 50, "City"))
Me.cmdUpdate.Parameters.Add(New System.Data.SqlClient.SqlParameter("@State", System.Data.SqlDbType.NVarChar, 50, "State"))
Me.cmdUpdate.Parameters.Add(New System.Data.SqlClient.SqlParameter("@Zip", System.Data.SqlDbType.NVarChar, 50, "Zip"))
Me.cmdUpdate.Parameters.Add(New System.Data.SqlClient.SqlParameter("@CertHolder", System.Data.SqlDbType.NVarChar, 50, System.Data.ParameterDirection.Input, False, CType(0, Byte), CType(0, Byte), "CertHolder", System.Data.DataRowVersion.Original, Nothing))
'
'cmdGetAll
'
Me.cmdGetAll.CommandText = "SELECT CertHolder, Name, Address, Address2, City, State, Zip FROM InsuranceData"
Me.cmdGetAll.Connection = Me.SqlConnection1
'
'cmdSelect
'
Me.cmdSelect.CommandText = "SELECT CertHolder, Name, Address, Address2, City, State, Zip FROM InsuranceData W" & _
"HERE (CertHolder = @CertHolder)"
Me.cmdSelect.Connection = Me.SqlConnection1
Me.cmdSelect.Parameters.Add(New System.Data.SqlClient.SqlParameter("@CertHolder", System.Data.SqlDbType.NVarChar, 50, "CertHolder"))
'
'OdbcConnection1
'
Me.OdbcConnection1.ConnectionString = "This works fine"
'
'OdbcGetAll
'
Me.OdbcGetAll.CommandText = "SELECT CertHolder, Name, Address, Address2, City, State, Zip FROM InsuranceData"
Me.OdbcGetAll.Connection = Me.OdbcConnection1
'
'OdbcSelect
'
Me.OdbcSelect.CommandText = "SELECT CertHolder, Name, Address, Address2, City, State, Zip FROM InsuranceData W" & _
"HERE CertHolder = @CertHolder"
Me.OdbcSelect.Connection = Me.OdbcConnection1
Me.OdbcSelect.Parameters.Add(New System.Data.Odbc.OdbcParameter("CertHolder", System.Data.Odbc.OdbcType.NVarChar, 50, "CertHolder"))
'
'OdbcUpdate
'
Me.OdbcUpdate.CommandText = "UPDATE InsuranceData SET Name = @Name, Address = @Address, Address2 = @Address2, " & _
"City = @City, State = @State, Zip = @Zip WHERE CertHolder = @CertHolder"
Me.OdbcUpdate.Connection = Me.OdbcConnection1
Me.OdbcUpdate.Parameters.Add(New System.Data.Odbc.OdbcParameter("Name", System.Data.Odbc.OdbcType.NVarChar, 50, "Name"))
Me.OdbcUpdate.Parameters.Add(New System.Data.Odbc.OdbcParameter("Address", System.Data.Odbc.OdbcType.NVarChar, 50, "Address"))
Me.OdbcUpdate.Parameters.Add(New System.Data.Odbc.OdbcParameter("Address2", System.Data.Odbc.OdbcType.NVarChar, 50, "Address2"))
Me.OdbcUpdate.Parameters.Add(New System.Data.Odbc.OdbcParameter("City", System.Data.Odbc.OdbcType.NVarChar, 50, "City"))
Me.OdbcUpdate.Parameters.Add(New System.Data.Odbc.OdbcParameter("State", System.Data.Odbc.OdbcType.NVarChar, 50, "State"))
Me.OdbcUpdate.Parameters.Add(New System.Data.Odbc.OdbcParameter("Zip", System.Data.Odbc.OdbcType.NVarChar, 50, "Zip"))
Me.OdbcUpdate.Parameters.Add(New System.Data.Odbc.OdbcParameter("Original_CertHolder", System.Data.Odbc.OdbcType.NVarChar, 50, System.Data.ParameterDirection.Input, False, CType(0, Byte), CType(0, Byte), "CertHolder", System.Data.DataRowVersion.Original, Nothing))
I NEVER EVER TYPED ORIGINAL_CERTHOLDER IN THE SQL PREPARATION
End Sub
Protected WithEvents btnSave As System.Web.UI.WebControls.Button
Protected WithEvents SqlConnection1 As System.Data.SqlClient.SqlConnection
Protected WithEvents ddlCertHolder As System.Web.UI.WebControls.DropDownList
Protected WithEvents txtName As System.Web.UI.WebControls.TextBox
Protected WithEvents txtAddress As System.Web.UI.WebControls.TextBox
Protected WithEvents ddlCH As System.Web.UI.WebControls.DropDownList
Protected WithEvents cmdUpdate As System.Data.SqlClient.SqlCommand
Protected WithEvents cmdGetAll As System.Data.SqlClient.SqlCommand
Protected WithEvents cmdSelect As System.Data.SqlClient.SqlCommand
Protected WithEvents txtAddress2 As System.Web.UI.WebControls.TextBox
Protected WithEvents txtCity As System.Web.UI.WebControls.TextBox
Protected WithEvents txtState As System.Web.UI.WebControls.TextBox
Protected WithEvents txtZip As System.Web.UI.WebControls.TextBox
Protected WithEvents OdbcConnection1 As System.Data.Odbc.OdbcConnection
Protected WithEvents OdbcGetAll As System.Data.Odbc.OdbcCommand
Protected WithEvents OdbcSelect As System.Data.Odbc.OdbcCommand
Protected WithEvents OdbcUpdate As System.Data.Odbc.OdbcCommand
'NOTE: The following placeholder declaration is required by the Web Form Designer.
'Do not delete or move it.
Private designerPlaceholderDeclaration As System.Object
Private Sub Page_Init(ByVal sender As System.Object, ByVal e As System.EventArgs) Handles MyBase.Init
'CODEGEN: This method call is required by the Web Form Designer
'Do not modify it using the code editor.
InitializeComponent()
End Sub
#End Region
Comments? Suggestions, I am not positive about how to fix this.
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If I have a table with 1 or more Nullable fields and I want to make sure that when an INSERT or UPDATE occurs and one or more of these fields are left to NULL either explicitly or implicitly is there I can set these to non-null values without interfering with the INSERT or UPDATE in as far as the other fields in the table?
EXAMPLE:
CREATE TABLE dbo.MYTABLE(
ID NUMERIC(18,0) IDENTITY(1,1) NOT NULL,
FirstName VARCHAR(50) NULL,
LastName VARCHAR(50) NULL,
[Code] ....
If an INSERT looks like any of the following what can I do to change the NULL being assigned to DateAdded to a real date, preferable the value of GetDate() at the time of the insert? I've heard of INSTEAD of Triggers but I'm not trying tto over rise the entire INSERT or update just the on (maybe 2) fields that are being left as null or explicitly set to null. The same would apply for any UPDATE where DateModified is not specified or explicitly set to NULL. I would want to change it so that DateModified is not null on any UPDATE.
INSERT INTO dbo.MYTABLE( FirstName, LastName, DateAdded)
VALUES('John','Smith',NULL)
INSERT INTO dbo.MYTABLE( FirstName, LastName)
VALUES('John','Smith')
INSERT INTO dbo.MYTABLE( FirstName, LastName, DateAdded)
SELECT FirstName, LastName, NULL
FROM MYOTHERTABLE
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Hello
I've to write an trigger for the following action
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all the entries in the same table where the no_tiers is the same as the one entered (many entriers) should have those both field updated
statut_tiers to 1
and date_cloture to the same date as entered
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I've never done a trigger before
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Hey,
MSDE 2000 allows 25 concurrent connections.
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hi
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I need a solution whereby all users can access the SQL server database without adding more licenses
Is there a way out.
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Regards
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Morning
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Does anybody have this information to hand as I need to write a business case to justify the potential upgrade.
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hey all,
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a particular instance?
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can someone please clarify.
TIA
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Hi all
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What I want to know is, Is there a way to check if that stored procedure is currently running. If so it wont run second time concurrently.
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