Configured Child Packages - Invoke Without Waiting For Package Completion?
Apr 4, 2007
I want to set multiple child packages running without waiting for them to complete in a parent SSIS package. The catch is that I will be running the same child package in multiple threads with different configuration variables set. I want to drive the config variables for the child packages via a SQL Server table, and start the execution of each child package from within a for-loop container.
Here's what I've tried, and why it didn't work:
1) Execute package task. Didn't work: Waits for the child package to complete before moving to the next step.
2) Kicking off the package via the "sp_start_job" stored proc in the msdn db. Didn't work: Can't specify config variable values.
3) Using the DTExec command line prompt. Didn't work: Same issue as 1). Waits for the package to complete.
Anything I'm missing? Any ideas on how to accomplish this?
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Sep 19, 2007
I have a package that executes 3 other packages in it. From the command line I pass in which config file to use (just contains db/seerver) does this setting get carried over into the child packages as well?
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Feb 1, 2007
I currently have multiple (parent and child) packages using the same config file. The config file has entries for connections to a number of systems. All of them are not used from the child packages. Hence, my child package throws an error when it tries to configure using the same config file because it can't find the extra connections in my connection collection.
Does anyone have any ideas on the best way to go about resolving this? Is multiple config files (one for each connection) the only way?
Sachin
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May 3, 2007
Hi,
I've found this problem that when I change settings in my configuration file it does not automatically apply to all child packages which uses the same configuration file if run from a job in SQL Server Agent. I need to open the package and save it again from BIDS. I use one "load group" package to execute all other packages.
Is there a way from the job configuration to set a setting so the package allways will have the newest configuration?
Regards
Simon
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Mar 21, 2007
Hi I have completed my first SSIS master package which runs a whole lot of child packages depending on value of expressions on workflow. (refer http://www.sqlis.com/306-3.aspx)
Each of my child packages is .dtsx file location and each Excute Package task uses the file connection.
The master parent package is also a dtsx file location which will be run by a SQL Server 2005 Agent
All good--problem is testing from BIDs--each time a Excecute package task is run--turns yellow a new tab appears apears in the design window --showing you that particular .dtsx file control flow detail. DTS never had this behaviour --can I turn this off in the BIDS ie as I have dozens of new tabs at run time which makes it very hard to keep track of the master package. All I want is the master package running from BIDs, and no new tabs appearing at run time???
Thanks kindly
Dave
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Mar 31, 2008
Hey...
I am running a parent SSIS package (running sp2, 9.0.3042) that calls several child packages.
On our development server, we now cannot run this because we get 1 or more of these errors:
"Error 0x80004003 while preparing to load the package. Invalid pointer . "
"Error 0xC0011008 while preparing to load the package. Error loading from XML. No further detailed error information can be specified for this problem because no Events object was passed where detailed error information can be stored. . "
It is not occuring on the same packages. It varies every time it is run.
I can run every one of the child packages individually, using the same login ID that the parent is executed under.
The parent package works fine on my local machine and other servers running the same version of SSIS. Just not on this server.
Does anyone have any ideas???
Thanks
BobP
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Jan 15, 2001
I have a DTS Package to populate data from excel sheet to direct simple table. I like to call this DTS from User interface. thanks in advance
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May 31, 2007
Hi Guys,
Anyone can tell me, How to invoke ssis package as webservice ?
Is it possible ? If yes How ?
Yogesh V. Desai. | SQLDBA|
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Sep 21, 2006
Hi ,
Anyone help me. Now we can do Invoke SSIS Package into ASp.NET.
Vice versa
Is there Possbile to invoke Datastage (oracle Job) into ASp.net? . Is already created in Oracle DataStage Server. it call or access through Dot net. Is it possble? Please any one help me.
Thanks & Regards,
Jeyakumar.M
chennai
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Feb 6, 2008
Hello there,
I'am asking you people if it's possible to invoke procedure, functions in package in Oracle database > 9.X with SSIS package...
Thx for your incoming answers
Regards,
KiK2k1
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May 28, 2007
Hi,
I have a problem with the task "event watcher".
I've made a query like the one in msdn (SELECT * FROM __InstanceCreationEvent WITHIN 10 WHERE Targetinstance ISA "CIM_DirectoryContainsFile" and TargetInstance.GroupComponent= "Win32_Directory.Name="e:\\temp""). I have 20 similar tasks for watching in different folders, but when there are too much tasks in parallel, it doesn't work anymore. I change the numbers of executables to 128 (in the general properties of the package (to test)) but it doesn't seems to work.
I don't understand why it works when there are only 1 or 2 (6 seems to be the maximum) tasks and not if there are more than 6.
Could you help me with this issue?
Configuration : Windows Server 2003, SQL Server 2005, SSIS, Sql Server Agent
Thanks a lot.
Julien.
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Jan 29, 2007
Hi all,
I created a simple file system task to copy a file from one location to another on my local system.
I used variables to specify the source and destination paths and now in my configuration file if I configure the values to something else also the package is taking the initial default values and not the values specified in the configuration file.
Can anyone throw some light on this.
Thanks in advance.
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Dec 11, 2006
Is there a way (during the Control Flow) to force a package to complete successfully when a specific condition is met?
Here is what I'm trying to do:
A package will be scheduled to execute once a day
The first thing it does is downloads Excel files from an FTP site.
If there are no files to download, I don't want the package to fail, I simply want the package to stop (preventing the subsequent Data Flow tasks from executing), returning a successful completion.
The reason, I need a successful completion is because I plan to have MOM monitor the Windows event logs, notifying us of any errors that this package logs.
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Nov 19, 2007
Is there a way to trigger a SSIS package automatically when it ends successfully. Actually i am moving data from one database to other.......i am passing start date and end date as my paramter...So is there some way once my SSIS package ends succesfully then it can start again on its own reading a new set of date range from a file or something....
I appreciate any reposne in advance
Thanks...
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Feb 2, 2008
Hi,
I'm working on an application that involves various components two of which are an SSIS package and a C# windows service.
The SSIS package imports data from a number of structured flat files into database tables and then runs a number of stored procedures that rearrange/normalize the data and perform certain calculations the results of which are also stored in the database. The package will run at regular intervals as new data structured flat files become available.
The C# windows service is a caching server and the data it needs to cache is the results of the stored procedures run by the SSIS package. I'm therefore looking for a way to notify the C# app when the SSIS package has completed.
I've looked at Sql Servers Query Notification but, if i've understood correctly, that seems to depend on the client code issuing a SQL statement and attaching a sqldependency object that will check for changes to the resultset of the particular query which is not really what i'm after.
I've considered SSIS events but again i think for a C# app to monitor SSIS events the package needs to have been executed from within the C# app. If there's a way for the SSIS package, running completely independently of the C# process, to fire an event that the C# windows service can subscribe to then that would be ideal.
I don't know whether other options like Sql Server Notification Services or even something quite crude like writing a flag to a flat file that the C# service can read would be more ideal?
Thanks
M.
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Feb 8, 2008
I searched for an answer for this, and found a few good threads, but none of them seem to be doing quite the same thing I'm trying to do.
I have two packages, parent and child. Parent does basic file manipulation -- encrypting/decrypting, moving from server to server, backing up to archive, pulling/pushing to external server via FTP, etc. It is completely dumb to what child does. Child is the guts of the data work -- the ETL package.
The goal is to have this one parent package be used by several ETL child packages. But not only can parent use different children (depending on which config is used when executing parent), but child can also handle different tasks, depending on a configuration it uses.
Let me break it down further.
Three packages:
ParentPackage - Used by all jobs
ChildPackage1 - Used for processing orders
ChildPackage2 - Used for processing inventory
Four configurations (thus four jobs):
Job1Configuration - Used for processing orders for ClientA
Job2Configuration - Used for processing orders for ClientB
Job3Configuration - Used for processing inventory for ClientA
Job4Configuration - Used for processing inventory for ClientB
Job1Configuration is set up to tell ParentPackage to use ChildPackage1, and to provide ChildPackage1 w/ various data for ClientA -- and so forth.
To my understanding, there is no passthrough of the config data from parent to child. A child package doesn't "inherit" or otherwise receive the information from the parent package, unless explicit variables are set up. This won't work for us, because ParentPackage is dumb of any data that the child packages may need. In other words, we don't want to set up ParentPacakge with every possible variable that every child package may need.
Also, I'm not aware of a way of setting up a job to provide a child package directly w/ a package configuration.
Is there any way to do what I'm trying to accomplish?
If I didn't explain something clearly, let me know and I will try to clarify.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Jerad
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Aug 29, 2006
Hello,
I was hoping someone might be able to clarify how configuartions work with child packages. My process has 3 levels of packages. The main packages called two child packages each of which calls more child packages.
I'm using Configurations to pass variables from parent packages to child packages. But each level of packages contains Data Flow Source/Destination connections. I was planning on having only 1 XML Configuration file in the main package that would allow the data connections for the main package to be configured for the target enviornment. When the job is scheduled I will be able to point a configuration file for use with the main packages. But will that configuration file be applied to all child packages that will run? All of the Connections Managers have the same name so I'd like to make the change in one file.
If not, am I forced to define a parent/child variable to pass the Connection String from the parent to each of the child packages? Use an expression to set the Connection String dynamically? This seems like a lot of extra work, so I'd really like to see if there is a way to do it with an XML configuration file. Even if I have to definte the same config file for each of my 20+ packages.
Thanks
-Dan
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May 17, 2007
I have a fairly simple SSIS project that has nested parent-child packages.
I am trying to find the best way to manage the connections strings so as to make the package portable across machines and environments. Currently there is one "master" package which calls 6 child packages. 1 of these child package calls 3 child packages of its own.
For the database connections, I've settled on creating a standardized .dtsConfig file for each server/login. This is a relatively small number (intially 8) that I don't expect to grow much.
I've taken a different approach for the file-system connections used by Execute Package components that call the child packages. For each package that has child packages, I store all the connection strings (paths) to the child packages in a single .dtsConfig file. This works well for the top-level "master" package where I can pass in the .dtsConfig file (that has the paths to the child packages) as a run-time option in the Execute Package Utility.
However, this approach seems to fall apart for the 2nd generation package that in turn call 3rd generation packages because I don't know how to get the .dtsConfig file (with the 3rd generation .dtsx package paths) path to this downstream dtsx package.
Though I'm sure there are others, the only two solutionsI can think of now are
(a)don't nest packages beyond 1 parent/child relationship -- not really an option or
(b)Store the path of .dtsConfig files for each .dtsx package as an environment variable on each machine. This option is unappealing because it would require adding an environment variable for every .dtsx package that has child packages. I don't think it would take long for this to grow into a large number, that would make managing environment variables cumbersome.
So far my experience with SSIS has been that there was a simple solution for each scenario I had. So this hoop jumping I'm going through seems to indicate I am just missing something.
Is there a better way I am just not getting?
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Apr 20, 2007
hello again!, this time I'm trying to run a Master Package from the SQL Server Agent but I can't set relative paths to the connections for all the child packages that the master package contains.
It only finishes execution when I set absolute paths for all connections in the connection manager within the SSIS Project.
Is there any property in the SQL Server Agent or mayby a workaround to solve this?
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Jun 29, 2006
It would appear that if a Child package is called more than once from a Parent using the 'Execute Package' task, then after the first execute the Parent Package Variables are not applied to child package. I.E we build dimensions in a master database and these are then loaded to a number of topic specific datamarts. We simply pass Parent variables to the child that hold source & target connection strings, the first time the package is called the correct database is accessed, subsequent Executes ignore the variables and use the original values. Manipulating the (our) event queue to run the package once results in the correct behaviour
Are packages cached when they are called from a Parent? if so is there a flag that I have missed to force a reload each time a child is executed?
This has just become a big problen for us so any guidance would greatly appreciated.
Paul
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Nov 30, 2006
HI, I have some parent parent packages that calls child packages. When I added a bunch of packages, I faced the buffer out of memory error. I then decided to set the child packages property ExecuteOutOfProcess to TRUE. I noticed that the execution time is longer now. Is this a good practice to set the ExecuteOutOfProcess to true? If so, is it normal that the execution time is longer?
Thank you,
Ccote
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Apr 11, 2008
I have around 10 packages for dim and fact Table load. Using deployment Utility i create setup and put the packages in to test environment.
Now my requirement is call all the packages in certain order from single package. Using Execute Package Task i could call only one package. how to achive this in deployment?
Thanks
Sam K
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Mar 2, 2007
Hi there,
I have a Business Intelligence project containing 4 packages. One of the packages is a parent package that just runs the other 3 packages sequentially (passing in variables via Package Configurations).
When I set the properties of the Execute Package tasks in the parent package, it seems that I can only select SQL Server or File System locations for the child packages.
What I want to do is for the parent to run the packages in the Visual Studio Project so that I can debug the whole process. I don't want to be bothered deploying the child packages so that I can run them from the parent, at least not while I am debugging the whole process.
How do I get the children to run within Visual Studio as well as the parent? I can't for the life of me find anything on the MSDN about this.
Many thanks in advance.
Richard F
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Nov 6, 2007
I have a parent package and three child packages.
In all packages they make connections to a SQL 2005 db which sits on the same instance as which the packages are being deployed.
In the Child packages these connections have the connection string set as a package property variable in Package configs and in the Parent package this variable exists correctly.
This variable in the Parent is itself defined in a PackageConfig which uses SQL Server as the holder for the configuration.
When I deploy the packages the connections to in the child packages fail, one connection by timing out, another with an acquire connection failure.
I have set the DelayValidation to false on all connections but it made no difference.
I have also increased the timeout to 180s but again still a failure.
When I deploy the parent package on its own it is successful, however when the child packages are deployed on their own these connections again fail to validate due to a timeout and connection failure, yet they are using the same connections defined in the parent.
The child packages are no larger than other single packags that I have deployed successfully with the same connection to the same server.
Is there anything special that I should be aware of regarding deployment of parent and child packages.
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Aug 17, 2006
I have one package that executes 4 child packages (5 total). All 5 packages are set to log information using a connection string with a variable set at runtime for the location. The child packages use a parent variable to get the log connection string from the parent package.
The parent package logs fine, but a strange behavior occurs with the child packages.
The child packages all log data to the location used in the configuration file variable during runtime (like it's supposed to). However, I would get an error right before the first child package finishes execution saying path not found. Just for giggles, I created the folder I use in my development environment on the production environment. The error goes away, but the log file is created in that folder with no data in it. Subsequently, the log file with the data is created in the location set in the configuration file. Now I have two log files!!!!
Anybody know how to fix this?!
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Jun 13, 2007
My packages are now in the filesystem. I have given the parent package a password in the properties window, saved the package and moved it to the run location.
I am using the SQL Job Agent to schedule the execution. My step command line reads:
dtexec /FILE "C:Pathparentpackage.dtsx" /De mypass /MAXCONCURRENT " -1 " /CHECKPOINTING OFF /REPORTING EW
Do the the 20 or so child and grandchild packages require passwords to run this way?
Thanks,
IanO
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Oct 22, 2007
Hi,
I have been developing SSIS packages and recently I found a strange thing happening. When executing chilld packages from the parent packages the child packages dont open automatically in the Package Designer window. Hence I cant monitor the places where the errors/ row movement have happened in child pkgs without manually opening the them first and then executing the parent.
Sam
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Oct 1, 2007
I am running a package with a parent child relationship.
in the parent package I am executing a loop that calls the child package each time it loops.
The child package is executing a SQL command that retuns data and attempts to load the data into a flat file.
The problem is that everytime the SQL changes the Metadata needs to change also.
How can I refresh the child packages Metadata dynamically.
I KNOW THAT I CAN'T REFRESH THE METADATA WHILE THE PACKAGE IS RUNNING.
But I can refresh the Metadata before the package executes.
Does anyone know how to script this?
Thank you
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May 21, 2007
Hi,
I created a package which passes some infornmations( through parameters) to its child package.
I need to do some processing in parent package based on execution status of child package.i.e.
if child fails then some operation and if child succeeds then other operation.
To determine the status of execution of child package I am using two differnt constraint ..one constraint is having value "Success" and other having value "Failure".
My problem is that when child packge is executed successfully the constraint with value = "Success" works properly but when child fails the constraint with value "Failure" does not work.
-Prashant
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Dec 3, 2007
I have created a SSIS package with a Foreach Loop including a Data Flow Task, which in turn include a Row Count component which pass the row count value to variable with package scope. The variable is used in an Execute SQL Task following the Data Flow Task.
The package executes successfully when executed on its own, but when executed as a child from a parent package (which only include an Execute Package Task) the variable from the Foreach Loop becomes NULL.
There are a lot of other variables in the package receiving values dynamically without any problem, the row count variable however is the only variable in the package that receives a value as part of a Data Flow (and used in following tasks within the Foreach Loop).
Why does the variable become Null? For your information, I am using a variable with package scope and no variables from the parent package are used or passed from the child package to the parent package.
(For your information, we are running the 64 bit version)
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Dec 6, 2007
Hi there
We have a SSIS run which runs as follows
The master package has a configuration file, specifying the connect strings
The master package passes these connect-strings to the child packages in a variable
Both master package and child packages have connection managers, setup to use localhost. This is done deliberately to be able to test the packages on individual development pc€™s.
We do not want to change anything inside the packages when deploying to test, and from test to production. All differences will be in the config files (which are pretty fixed, they very seldom change). That way we can be sure that we can deploy to production without any changes at all.
The package is run from the file system, through a job-schedule.
We experience the following when running on a not default sql-server instance (called dkms5253uedw)
Case 1:
The master package starts by executing three sql-scripts (drop foreign key€™s, truncate tables, create foreign key€™s). This works fine.
The master package then executes the first child package. We then in the sysdtslog get:
Error - €œcannot connect to database xxx€?
Info - €œpackage is preparing to get connection string from parent €¦€?
The child package then executes OK, does all it€™s work, and finish. Because there has been an error, the master package then stops with an error.
Case 2:
When we run exactly the same, but with the connection strings in the config file pointing to the default instance (dkms5253), the everything works fine.
Case 3:
When we run exactly the same, again against the dkms5253uedw instance, but now with the exact same databases defined in the default instance, it also works perfect.
Case 4:
When we then stop the sql-server on the default instance, the package faults again, this time with
Error - €œtimeout when connect to database xxx€?
Info - €œpackage is preparing to get connection string from parent €¦€?
And the continues as in the first case
From all this we conclude, that the child package tries to connect to the database before it knows the connection string it gets passed in the variable from the master package. It therefore tries to connect to the default instance, and this only works if the default instance is running and has the same databases defined. As far as we can see, the child package does no work against the default instance (no logging etc.).
We have tried delayed validation in the packages and in the connection managers, but with the same results (error).
So we are desperately hoping that someone can help us solve this problem.
Thanx,
/Nils M - Copenhagen
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Dec 21, 2007
Is there any built-in way of kicking off a job on SQL Server 2005 Agent whenever a package/job completes in Oracle?
Are there any (Triggers? Msft queue? Event Notification?) mechanisms to automate running a job on the SQL side?
Any article or knowledge articles would be appreciated also.
If not are there any built-in stardardized polling techniques? Or are there any timers in SSIS?
That way I can delay executing a child package until a certain record has been inserted into a control table in Oracle.
I don't want to write an inefficient for loop that blocks all other processing on the server and iterates once every second.
Thanks
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Dec 26, 2006
We
have one main package from which 7 other child packages are called. We are using
ParentPackage variables to assign values for variables and database connections.
While the values from ParentPackage variable get assigned to some of the
packages properly, to others it doesn€™t assign the value.
For example:
Except for one of the packages the database connection string gets assigned
properly to all other packages.
Similarly, in another package one of the
variables doesn€™t get assigned. In other packages it is assigned properly.
We
have checked all the other property values and they are exactly the same.
We cannot make any head or tail of this erratic behavior.
Please Help.
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