Creating Database Diagrams With SQL Compact 3.5 And VS2008 RTM
Nov 30, 2007
I'm using VS2008 RTM with a new SQL Compact 3.5 database and I read in VS2008 and SQL Compact 3.5 BOL that Database Diagrams are supported as well as Foreign Key creation from Server Explorer.
However, there doesn't seem to be support for this. Database Diagram commands are not displayed for this new database (but it is for my SQL Express database) as instructed by BOL.
Can anyone tell me if VS2008 fully supports SQL Compact 3.5 with database diagrams and visual tools to create relationships? If so, how can you create a database diagram in VS2008 for SQL Compact 3.5?
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Feb 8, 2008
I have VS2008 (9.0.21022.8 RTM) and I cannot get SQL Compact 3.5 to work with it. Whenever I attempt to open a compact edition database, I get a message that "The operation cannot complete, click OK on the "Package Load Failure" dialog, reinstall SQL Server Compact 3.5 and then from the command line run devenv /resetskippkgs. I've tried that twice and no joy. I can connect and work just fine with SSMS 2005, but I cannot get it to work in VS2008.
Also when in VS2008 and I go to Server Explorer | Data Connections | Add Connection, I do not have Microsoft SQL Server Compact 3.5 in the list.
Any suggestions? Thanks.
-John
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Aug 29, 2007
tried to add a third and fourth table to an exsiting relationship diagram in VS05 server explorer, when i click save i get an error "the operation could not be completed" i am able to create new diagrams but it seems every time i click save, and close the diagram the reopen it and add new tables then click save i get the same error message, i dont even try and create the actual relationship but just add a third table and boom the problem occurs
thanks in advance
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Feb 27, 2008
Hello
I'm new to VWD 2008 Express and MSSQL 2005 Express development (not to programming in genral), and I have this problem with creating a self join using Database Diagram in VWD2008 Express.
In SQL 2005 Express (through VWD) it's not possible to add the table to the diagram twice and its not possible to give the table an alias either.
Is it a limitation in the SQL Express or am I doing something wrong ?
Regards
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May 10, 2008
I've just upgraded my C# app from .NET 2.0 to 3.5 in VS 2008. Now my SQL Server CE database file won't open. When I run the app, it falls over on the connection.Open() method call, saying I have to upgrade the database to 3.5. It says if it was created in 3.0 or 3.1 to run the compact/repair utility. Well, I did that - a full compaction - but it didn't help at all. According to somewhere on MSDN, I should get an option to upgrade if I reconnect to the database in Server Explorer. Not so. It connects quite happily. If I try to connect to some earlier copies of the database, I do get this dialog, so I am assuming that it has already been upgraded. But then why won't the damn thing work?
I tried running the command-line upgrade.exe too, but being a bit clueless when it comes to the command line, I couldn't get it to work. Kept telling me the thing wouldn't run in Win32 mode, even though I was running it from the command prompt (sigh!).
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Jan 25, 2007
Hi All ...
I'm setting up replication for the 1st time following the steps in the Books Online to get it up and running:
ms-help://MS.SSCE.v31.EN/ssmmain3/html/5a82aa7a-41a3-4246-a01a-2b1e4b2fdfe9.htm.
Anyhow, I get down to the section labeled - Create a new SQL Server Compact Edition database and am having a problem. I open SQL Server Management Studio as instructed. I click Connect and then am supposed to select SQL Server Compact Edition - yet can't find that option.
And, yes, I've installed Compact Edition on my development laptop. So, how do I get this option so that I can create the local DB for Compact Edition and continue development?
UPDATE:
Ok, duh moment, I have SQL Server Management Studio Express loaded on my laptop, so did not have the option. I've attempted to uninstall SQL Server Management Studio Express and install the full version from the SQL Server CDs. However, when I go to install the full version it tells me that the management tools are already installed and won't let me install anything. So, how do I get around this so that I can install full version of SQL Server Management Studio and then get the option to connect to the SQL Server Compact Edition?
Any help will be appreciated.
UPDATE 2:
Ok, figured it out. You can't just uninstall SQL Server Management Studio express, you must go in to Add/Remove Programs, SQL Server 2005, Change. Then select to uninstall the Workstation components. Then you can go use the SQL Server install discs to install the full blown SQL Server Management Studio along with the other Workstation components.
Thanks ...
David L. Collison
Any day above ground is a good day!
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Jan 17, 2007
OK I think I am missing something here. I have installed the newly released SQL Compact Edition, Server Tools, and Tools for VS SP1. According to the documentation you can do the following to create a SQL Compact Edition DB:
Creating a SQL Server Compact Edition database on the server
In SQL Server Management Studio, open Object Explorer.
In Object Explorer, click Connect, and then choose SQL Server Compact Edition.
In the Connect to Server dialog box, select <New Database€¦> from the Database file drop-down list.
In the Create New SQL Server Compact Edition Database dialog box, type a file path and file name for the new database file. You can optionally select the default sort order and choose whether you want to encrypt or password-protect the database. If you choose to encrypt or password-protect the database, type a password, and then click OK.
Click Connect to connect to the new SQL Server Compact Edition database. The database is now displayed in Object Explorer.
I see no reference to or any option to create or connect to a SQL Server Compact Edition database in SQL Mgmt Studio. I had SQL 2005 Mobile installed previously and this still shows as an option. What I am missing here? Is SQL Mobile now SQL Compact Editon?
Thanks in advance,
Jack
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Jun 28, 2007
Hello!!
I completed that example that I pasted in the subject part and when I try to synchronize my mobile database, the data from the server appear in my pocket pc; but when i refresh the data on my pocket pc they do not show on the server.
Can anyone give me a hand?
thanks
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Mar 9, 1999
Is there a way to use an Oracle linked server to create a database diagram? Or do I have to bring the whole Oracle db into SQL7 and then create the diagram?
Peter Cwik
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Oct 11, 2001
Is there a way to allow a non-dbo to look at another's database diagram?
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Apr 5, 2004
Do you need to be a member of the dbo role or an sa on a particular sql server to create a database diagram? I just want to confirm this is the case.
Any assistance will be helpful.
Maria
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Nov 29, 2007
In our organization, we are using SQL Server 2005 Management studio as the client interface to access all our enterprise Databases.Most of the databases are built on SQL 2005 DB Server.
However, We have one of the Database built on SQL Server 2000, which also has Database diagrams in it. Though We are able to view all the DB objects through SQL 2005 managment studio interface, but unable to view the diagrams.
I understand that, the binary data of the diagrams are stored in "dtproperties" table on SQL 2000 but in SQL 2005, it is stored in "sysobjects"(not sure) table and both are entirely different.
Following are my questions.
1.Since the DB is still on SQL 2000,How can we view the diagram objects thru the SQL 2005 Enterprise manager.
2.For the migration process of SQL 2000 to SQL 2005, How can i migrate the database diagrams.
Appreciate the responses.
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Jan 11, 2008
Hi All
I am using SQL server 2000 and I would like to create Database diagrams but It doesn't give me any option to crate one. It only shows "Working with SQL Server 2000 diagrams" and "Refresh" with no "create new diagram" and in other servers it but its only in my desktop that doesn't and I have full access
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Apr 26, 2006
Hello all,
I upsized an access backend to sql 2005. In the process, the relationships were lost. When I go to the database in Sql, right click on database diagrams, all I get is refresh and a link to go to learn about database diagrams. How can I recreate the diagrams?
Thanks
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Apr 23, 2007
I am trying to follow this walkthrough<br><br>http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms233763(VS.80).aspx<br>And getting nowhere as it says I need to set up database diagrams which I cannot due to not being in db_owner role, or not being valid db user etc etc.I cannot find out how to set this up for the database I created so far in t his tutorial.I have searched and searched and got nowhere.I then went into SSMSE by chance and found a load of roles but none named db_owner. I then tried to add my database file but SSMSE wont let me drill down into the required folderI weep!!!!Please can anyone help?
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May 10, 2001
Hi,
I hope i'm in the right forum. Is there a way to create a DB diagram schema via ASP/HTML and publish it on-line - keeping it up-to-date?
I want to at least output a diagram schema to HTML format? Any ideas. TIA!
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Oct 17, 2005
Hi all,
I am trying to make DATABASE DIAGRAMs....I have restored a database called Tel from a backup file...n in that i have all the tables and procedures..now whenever i m clicking on its DATABASE DIAGRAMS it gives me the error as:
TITLE: Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio
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Database diagram support objects cannot be installed because this database does not have a valid owner. To continue, first use the Files page of the Database Properties dialog box or the ALTER AUTHORIZATION statement to set the database owner to a valid login, then add the database diagram support objects.
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so,what should i do??any suggestion will be helpful for me...thnks in advance...
regards..
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Apr 18, 2008
Hi,
I remember I asked the similar question before.But I have not solve this.
I am working with SQL Server 2005. I just make a copy of the production database.
I use "tasks -> Generate Script" to copy the table structure and use "tasks -> import Data" to copy Data. But I can not copy the database diagrams,I need to keep the primary keys - foreign keys relations.
Please let me know how to copy database diagrams.I try many ways but I can not figure it out.
Thanks for your help
Mark
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Apr 17, 2007
When I try to Create a Database Diagram it sends me an Error message like this:
Server Name: TICSQLEXPRESS
Error Number: 207
Severity: 16
State: 1
Procedure: sp_upgraddiagrams
Line Number: 55
Invalid column name 'uvalue'.
Invalid column name 'uvalue'.
Could not find stored procedure 'dbo.sp_upgraddiagrams'.
Object is invalid. Extended properties are not permitted on 'dbo.sysdiagrams', or the object does not exist.
Object is invalid. Extended properties are not permitted on 'dbo.sp_upgraddiagrams', or the object does not exist. (.Net SqlClient Data Provider)
How can I find that Stored Procedure 'dbo.sp_upgraddiagrams'?
Why doesn't it work OK?
Thank you!
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Jul 20, 2005
Hidoes anyone know of a way of giving developers read only access to adatabase diagram in Enterprise Manager (SQL Server 2000). The database wassupplied by a third party and we don't want them tinkering with it, butthey do need to be able to create additional tables etc. to extend thefunctionality of the package.TIAChloe Crowder
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Apr 19, 2008
Hi All,
I€™ve just installed SQL 2008 Express CTP. Everything seems to be fine except that the folder €śDatabase Diagrams€? is absent in the tree of SQL Server Management Studio. It is the same for newly created databases and databases upgraded from 2005 Express.
Any ideas how to get the diagrams back?
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Aug 1, 2015
Why am I getting the following message when I try to access the diagrams for a database?
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Apr 14, 2006
Hello, I'm using C# express with SQL express.
I can create a database, create tables and I can even delete the database but I cannot create database digrams. I get an error that says I don't have a valid dbo user or permissions to impersonate. It asks me if I would like to impersonate but it just fails. Any Ideas? Thanks
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Jun 26, 2006
When I use the sql 2005 "Database Diagrams" tool for the first time I always get the message: "The Database does not have one or more of the support objects required to use database diagramming. Do you wish to create them?"
1. Does anyone know what the " support objects" referred to are?
2. Why SQL doesn't automatically create these support objects for me? (e.g. do they require a lot of hard disk space so they shouldn't routinely be created?)
3. Is there any way to make Sql automatically create them?
If you can address any of these points I'd appreciate it.
TIA,
barkingdog
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Feb 20, 2007
Hi,
When I try to access the database diagrams in AdventureWorks, I get the following message:
TITLE: Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio Express
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Database diagram support objects cannot be installed because this database does not have a valid owner. To continue, first use the Files page of the Database Properties dialog box or the ALTER AUTHORIZATION statement to set the database owner to a valid login, then add the database diagram support objects.
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BUTTONS:
OK
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Why is this?
All advice / help apprecuated.
Thanks
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Jun 11, 2007
Error Message: Database diagram support objects cannot be installed because this database does not have a valid owner.
How do I create a valid owner for the database?
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Jan 21, 2006
Our MS SQL (SQL Server 2000) DBA has database privileges locked downpretty tightly. We end users/developers do not have administratorprivileges for most databases. That arrangement has worked out OK forthe most part. However, it's a bit aggravating that we can't evencreate our own database diagrams. When we attempt to do so (inEnterprise Manager), we get a dialog that says "You do not havesufficient privilege to create a new database diagram."Our DBA is so busy that it's difficult to get them to create ones forus. And even when they do, it seems that we can't even view it online-- we rely on the DBA to give us printed copies or screenshots for ourdocumentation. How ridiculous is that? We'd also like to be able tomanipulate the diagrams online so that we can more easily study ourtable structures, indexes, foreign key constraints, etc. In fact,there doesn't even seem to be any other way to easily view currentforeign key constraints.I realize that this might have to do with the diagramming tool havingthe ability to actually manipulate the database in ways we aren'tsupposed to do (e.g., like creating new tables). However, isn't therea "read-only" version of this tool that will give us what I'm lookingfor? Short of that, are there any other free or cheap tools that willprovide this? Thanks!(Please forgive my ignorance if this has been hashed out before.However, I did search news groups and the web before posting, figuringthis had been covered before, but I didn't find anything thatspecifically addressed this issue.)
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Mar 24, 2006
This question has been asked several times on this forum, but none of the answers I've seen have worked for me. I just upgraded from SQL Server 2000.
The error I'm getting is:
does not have a valid owner. To continue, first use the Files page of the Database Properties dialog box or the ALTER AUTHORIZATION statement to set the database owner to a valid login, then add the database diagram support objects.
This is a new database I created in SQL Server management studio. It's set to 90 compatibility level. I've tried the "alter authorization" command, which works, but it has no effect (the error is still returned).
The odd part is that if I go to Server Properties->Permissions, select the Login that owns this database, and click "Effective Permissions", I get the error:
Could not obtain information about Windows NT group/user '<username>', error code 0x6e. (Microsoft SQL Server, Error: 15404)
But I know for certain that this account is valid and that my machine can reach the domain controller: 1) I received no error when I added this Login to the server and 2) I'm logged into SQL Server Management Studio using the same login.
If I switch to the "sa" user, it works. But I'd really rather find out what I can't use Windows authentication.
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Oct 25, 2006
Hi.I'm very new to this so I apologise in advance for asking the blindibly obvious. I have installed SQL Express and SQL Server Management Studio Express and I have downloaded and attached the Northwind sample database. I can see and edit the data in the tables but when I try to open the Database Diagram node I get the following message:Database diagram support objects cannot be installed because this database does not have a valid owner. To continue, first use the Files page of the Database Properties dialog box or the ALTER AUTHORIZATION statement to set the database owner to a valid login, then add the database diagram support objects.I have no idea what a valid logon would be. Can somebody help? Thanks
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Dec 21, 2007
I have database diagrams in my original db which was built with Management Studio. I now have scripts to build the database from scratch, but my diagrams are left behind, back in the original db. Is there any way to copy the original diagrams into the new db? I know in SS2000 the diagrams were in the dtproperties table; any idea where they are in SS2005?
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Jul 20, 2005
When you create database diagrams in Enterprise Manager, the detailsfor constructing those diagrams is saved into the dtproperties table.This table includes an image field which contains most of the relevantinfomation, in a binary format.SQL Enterprise manager offers no way to script out those diagrams, soI have created two Transact SQL components, one User Function and oneUser Procedure, which together provide a means to script out thecontents of the dtproperties table, including all of the binary basedimage data, into a self documenting, easy to read script. This scriptcan be stowed away safely, perhaps within your versioning software,and it can subsequently be recalled and executed to reconstruct allthe original diagrams.The script is intelligent enough not to overwrite existing diagrams,although it does allow the user to purge any existing diagrams, ifthey so choose.Once these two objects have been added to any database, you may thenbackup (script out) the current database diagrams by executing thestored procedure, like this:Exec usp_ScriptDatabaseDiagramsBy default, all database diagrams will be scripted, however, if youwant to script the diagrams individually, you can execute the sameprocedure, passing in the name of a specific diagram. For example:Exec usp_ScriptDatabaseDiagrams 'Users Alerts'The Transact SQL code for the two objects is too long to paste here,but if you are interested, I will email it to you. Just drop me a noteat: Join Bytes! (Remove bothinstances of TAKE_THIS_OUT from my email address first!!)-Clay
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Aug 22, 2015
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Feb 10, 2006
I am having the same problem as above. Are there step-by-step instructions available to correct this problem. I have tried some of the solutions listed above and I still can't access the database diagram.
Help
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