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Placing Indexes on Filegroups:

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Limitations and Restrictions

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Hi,

I'm working on a database for a financial client and part of what i need to do is calculate a value from two separate rows in the same table and insert the result in the same table as a new row. I have a way of doing so but i consider it to be extremely inelegant and i'm hoping there's a better way of doing it. A description of the existing database schema (which i have control over) will help in explaining the problem:

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id security_id metric_id value
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2 3 102 <calculated value>
3 3 103 <calculated value>
4 3 104 <calculated value>

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----------- -- -- -- -- -- --
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4 ...
.
.
.

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The SQL that achieves this is more or less as follows:

*********
START SQL
*********

declare @calendar_averages table (security_id int, [101] decimal(38,19), [102] decimal(38,19), [103] decimal(38,19), [104] decimal(38,19),etc...)


-- Dummy year variable to make it easier to use MONTH() function
-- to convert 3 letter month to number. i.e. JAN -> 1, DEC -> 12 etc...
DECLARE @DUMMY_YEAR VARCHAR(4)
SET @DUMMY_YEAR = 1900;

with temp(security_id, metric_id, value)
as
(
select ml.security_id, ml.metric_id, ml.value
from metrics_ladder ml
where ml.metric_id in (80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,etc...)
-- only consider securities with fiscal year end not equal to december
and ml.security_id in (select security_id from company_details where fiscal_year_end <> 'dec')
)
insert into @calendar_averages
select temppivot.security_id
-- Net Income
,(CONVERT(DECIMAL, MONTH(cd.fiscal_year_end + @DUMMY_YEAR))/12*[80])
+((12 - CONVERT(DECIMAL, MONTH(cd.fiscal_year_end + @DUMMY_YEAR)))/12*[81]) as [101]
,(CONVERT(DECIMAL, MONTH(cd.fiscal_year_end + @DUMMY_YEAR))/12*[81])
+((12 - CONVERT(DECIMAL, MONTH(cd.fiscal_year_end + @DUMMY_YEAR)))/12*[82]) as [102]
,(CONVERT(DECIMAL, MONTH(cd.fiscal_year_end + @DUMMY_YEAR))/12*[82])
+((12 - CONVERT(DECIMAL, MONTH(cd.fiscal_year_end + @DUMMY_YEAR)))/12*[83]) as [103]
,NULL as [104]
-- Share Holders Equity
,(CONVERT(DECIMAL, MONTH(cd.fiscal_year_end + @DUMMY_YEAR))/12*[84])
+((12 - CONVERT(DECIMAL, MONTH(cd.fiscal_year_end + @DUMMY_YEAR)))/12*[85]) as [105]
,(CONVERT(DECIMAL, MONTH(cd.fiscal_year_end + @DUMMY_YEAR))/12*[85])
+((12 - CONVERT(DECIMAL, MONTH(cd.fiscal_year_end + @DUMMY_YEAR)))/12*[86]) as [106]
,(CONVERT(DECIMAL, MONTH(cd.fiscal_year_end + @DUMMY_YEAR))/12*[86])
+((12 - CONVERT(DECIMAL, MONTH(cd.fiscal_year_end + @DUMMY_YEAR)))/12*[87]) as [107]
,NULL as [108]
-- Capex
-- Sales
-- Accounts payable
etc...
..
..
from temp
pivot
(
sum(value)
for metric_id in ([80],[81],[82],[83],[84],[85],[86],[87],[88],etc...)
) as temppivot
inner join company_details cd on temppivot.security_id = cd.security_id

*********
END SQL
*********

The result then needs to be unpivoted and stored in metrics_ladder.

And FINALLY, the question! Is there a more elegant way of achieving this??? I have complete control over the database schema so if creating mapping tables or anything along those lines would help it is possible. Also, is SQL not really suited for such operations and would it therefore be better done in C#/VB.NET.

Many thanks (if you've read this far!)

M.

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