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Hi,

Is it a recognised limitation of log shipping over a WAN, that if you re-index the primary db then the result is gigabytes of trn log to send over the WAN, effectively breaking the log shipping sync?

Are there any known work-arounds?

Would anyone recommend using db replication instead to maintain a DR sql server?

Any comments greatly appreciated.
Steve

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1 ProductName NULL Microsoft SQL Server
2 ProductVersion 589824 9.00.3042.00
3 Language 1033 English (United States)
4 Platform NULL NT AMD64
5 Comments NULL NT AMD64
6 CompanyName NULL Microsoft Corporation
7 FileDescription NULL SQL Server Windows NT - 64 Bit
8 FileVersion NULL 2005.090.3042.00
9 InternalName NULL SQLSERVR
10 LegalCopyright NULL © Microsoft Corp. All rights reserved.
11 LegalTrademarks NULL Microsoft® is a registered trademark of Microsoft Corporation. Windows(TM) is a trademark of Microsoft Corporation
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13 PrivateBuild NULL NULL
14 SpecialBuild 199360512 NULL
15 WindowsVersion 248381957 5.2 (3790)
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17 ProcessorActiveMask 4 f
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' Write scripts using Microsoft Visual Basic
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' Before returning from this method, set the value of Dts.TaskResult to indicate success or failure.

'

' To open Code and Text Editor Help, press F1.

' To open Object Browser, press Ctrl+Alt+J.

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