DEADLOCKs While BCPin Using &"TABLOCK&" Hint
Apr 21, 2008
Hi,
*** Skip all and go to last 2nd para for main question ****
We have our custom ETL tool that loads data in SS 2005 Enterprise Vesion using BCP. We use '-h "TABLOCK"' table hint and '-b 10000' batch size options.
Prior to 2005 Enterprise version (2K and 2K5 Standard Versions), we use to maintain around 10 DBs with same schema/sps and views in each of the dbs.
Now, in Enterprise version we are maintaining one DB where all tables are partitioned by one column.
Multiple instances might run from different workstations. Here, I want to clarify you that no instance will load data pertaining to another partition.
But at the same time there will be other components running that will query the tables in a SELECT sql and all tables have NOLOCK table hint.
There can be multiple instances of this component running from different workstations. Again, none of the instance will not access data pertaining to another instance (including the component that is loading data)
I have no clue why we some times get deadlock issues when we run multiple instances of custom ETL tool for loading data and other component that just has select only sql.
More over I get deadlocks many times only in BCP, this is a puzzle to me because i use NOLOCK table hint. This is the only place where table is populated by data and data in table neither updates or deleted.
Can some one tell which of these below concurrent transactions will get conflicts and leads to dead lock?
bcping data into table of partition A
bcping data into table of partition B
deleting few rows of data from table of partition E
updating few rows of data from table of partition F
querying table of partition C
querying table of partition D
Thanks
- D
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Oct 4, 2007
Hi all,
During a load test , we found a procedure that was causing a deadlock. In the profiler deadlock graph both the process that blocked as well as the victim where having the same object id of the procedure.
I used WITH (TABLOCK) hint and now I'm not finding the deadlocks.
Is this a right solution ?
Will this affect the functionality ?
Code piece inside the procedure when it caused deadlocks
INSERT INTO Table1
SELECT @Col1, @Col2, @Col3, @Col4
UPDATE Table1
SET Col5 = @Col5
WHERE @Col1 = @Var
UPDATE Table2
SET Col = @ColVal
Code piece changed now with WITH (TABLOCK)
INSERT INTO Table1
SELECT @Col1, @Col2, @Col3, @Col4
UPDATE Table1 WITH (TABLOCK)
SET Col5 = @Col5
WHERE @Col1 = @Var
UPDATE Table2 WITH (TABLOCK)
SET Col = @ColVal
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks,
DBLearner
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Oct 20, 2015
We currently have a large ETL import each night. There are lots of tables and some are quite large. If there is a problem with the nightly import, it is rerun during the day while users are running reports. The only updates to the tables is the nightly import.Currently the import does a BULK Insert and several INSERT INTOs. We are going to try to improve performance by adding a WITH (TABLOCK). But wonder if the TABLOCK will cause more locking, less locking, or be about the same. We do not have transactions batched. We insert all the records for a table in a single transaction.Â
Have found these references regarding TABLOCK, but I am confused what they mean, and how they differ from doing a BULK INSERT or INSERT INTO without TABLOCK.
TABLOCK - Specifies that a shared lock is taken on the table held until the end-of-statement. [URL] ....
Using INSERT INTO…SELECT to Bulk Load Data with Minimal Logging [URL] ....
Lock Modes [URL] ....
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Jul 2, 2014
I've been reading about the "table lock on bulk load" option and TABLOCK hint.
So my understanding is by default only row locks are taken out and other queries can read/write data while the bulk load is going on. However if you were doing parallel bulk loads with overlapping keys from a clustered index then they may block each other.
But if the option is enabled, you can do the parallel bulk loads without blocking because a table lock is taken out, however, other processes couldn't read/write the data until they're all done.
Is that the gist of it? I think I got confused by some misinformation. Don't all those row locks eventually likely escalate to a table lock anyway though?
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Hi all
If i have a view:
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AS
SELECT * FROM Users WITH(NOLOCK)
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CREATE PROC [dbo] .[usp_GetCompanyUsers]
AS
SELECT * FROM Companies WITH(NOLOCK) JOIN
vw_Users WITH(NOLOCK) --<< ---is this suggested?
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A.ID,
A.IDUSUARIO MSISDN,
NULL AS MSISDN_COD,
convert(char(19),A.FECHA_ALVENTO, 121) AS FECHA_MO_LOCAL,
NULL AS FECHA_MO_LOCAL_D,
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Hi there,
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- using a variable that contains the actual length in
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- tricking by concatenating the resulting string with a dummy like "" didn't
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pressing CTRL+L
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Hi,
I am stuck with that error when running my ASP.NET application on my production server for many weeks now and still don't have a complete solution to that problem.
I formerly posted that thread and read that other thread without success, so as I have made a few progress in delimiting the problem I am posting this new thread with the hope somebody will finally be able to help me.
To summarize:
1) I have developed an ASP.NET application,
- on a Windows XP Pro SP2 computer
- with VS studio 2005 Dev and included SQL 2005 engine
- this application works fine on the dev computer
2) I have deployed the application on a production server which is:
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- with SQL Express SP1 with Advance services installed
When I launch the prod application I have this error:
Login failed for user xxxxASPNET
I have found that I can bypass this error by doing the following:
1) manually attach my .mdf database with SQL Server Management Studio Express and specifying the field Attached as with myDatabaseName (in place of the default fullPhysicalPath/myDatabaseName.MDF) then detach it
2) change the auto generated connection string in web.config file from
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As I have no mean (or at least don't know how) of modifying the associated Connection String for that database (it does not appear in web.config) I cannot bypass the problem for it and thus the error still appears when the application try to use this database.
Please I really need help on this matter, I can provide any other useful information as needed (logs, sources ...)
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Our system is reasonably complex with a lot of non-trivial stored procedures. As the load on our DB increased we're now getting more and more deadlocks (10 per day or so from about a million stored proc executions).
We try to avoid transactions where we can, and we do attempt to optimse stored procs to steer clear of deadlock conditions, but with the sheer number of stored procedures we can't possibly avoid all deadlock conditions.
One solution I'm considering is to re-run stored procs that failed because of a deadlock. In the .net code we'll run the stored proc, check for a deadlock error and if one happened, wait 100ms and try again.
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Hi,
we have a production inviremont that is running for about 10 months. Since a couple of weeks we are having problems with "Deadlocks".
This cant be due to an increase in data size on the tables that are having the issues because these are cleaned in the same transaction that populates them.
These tables are used to store temporary data that the production system needs to calculate the correct price for any given order. This transaction takes between 0.5 to 1 second to commit.
We are running on a dual processor machine with 1 Gb of RAM with SQL Server 7 - sp 3, Windows NT 4 sp 6, Microsoft Transaction Server.
In all our queries and stored procedures we use the optimizer hints (nolock) for select statements and (rowlock) for updates or deletes.
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Is there any way to totally avoid deadlocks. In some critical applications
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inserts, and the only thing I can think is that updates to the indexes are
causing multiple page locks which result in deadlocks. Is this true?
Will deadlocks be eliminated in 7.0 with row level locking for this situation?
Or will index page splits still cause a possibility of deadlock contention?
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Hi ,
I have a problem with a SP in 6.5. When i try to run a Stored Proc which is a simple select statement dumped into a temp table in a particular database, I lock other users who are tring to log into other databases some in tempdb database. When i try to kill the process the rollback takes almost 45 mins or so..till then no one can log on to the server.
The SP works fine when no one is logged into the Great Plains server. One more thing i observed is that, the SP when run results on a deadlock only when the owner is a user. If the owner is DBO it works fine.
Can anybody throw some light on this.
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Jul 10, 2002
I am getting the following dead lock error message writtent to the Error Log.
How do i interpret this...?
2002-07-10 11:49:52.88 spid3 Node:1
2002-07-10 11:49:52.88 spid3 KEY: 6:1531868524:1 (1e0040209980) CleanCnt:1 Mode: X Flags: 0x0
2002-07-10 11:49:52.88 spid3 Grant List::
2002-07-10 11:49:52.88 spid3 Owner:0x26429de0 Mode: X Flg:0x0 Ref:2 Life:02000000 SPID:62 ECID:0
2002-07-10 11:49:52.88 spid3 SPID: 62 ECID: 0 Statement Type: INSERT Line #: 67
2002-07-10 11:49:52.88 spid3 Input Buf: RPC Event: sp_Save;1
2002-07-10 11:49:52.88 spid3 Requested By:
2002-07-10 11:49:52.88 spid3 ResType:LockOwner Stype:'OR' Mode: Range-S-S SPID:58 ECID:0 Ec:(0x29f534f8) Value:0x2649f0c0 Cost:(0/0)
2002-07-10 11:49:52.88 spid3
2002-07-10 11:49:52.88 spid3 Node:2
2002-07-10 11:49:52.88 spid3 KEY: 6:1695345104:1 (ffffffffffff) CleanCnt:1 Mode: Range-S-U Flags: 0x0
2002-07-10 11:49:52.88 spid3 Grant List::
2002-07-10 11:49:52.88 spid3 Owner:0x26450f20 Mode: Range-S-U Flg:0x0 Ref:1 Life:02000000 SPID:58 ECID:0
2002-07-10 11:49:52.88 spid3 SPID: 58 ECID: 0 Statement Type: INSERT Line #: 250
2002-07-10 11:49:52.88 spid3 Input Buf: RPC Event: sp_IPAQManagerFetchFilterDetail;1
2002-07-10 11:49:52.88 spid3 Requested By:
2002-07-10 11:49:52.88 spid3 ResType:LockOwner Stype:'OR' Mode: Range-Insert-Null SPID:62 ECID:0 Ec:(0x3bb5f4f8) Value:0x2649e040 Cost:(0/2340)
2002-07-10 11:49:52.88 spid3 Victim Resource Owner:
2002-07-10 11:49:52.88 spid3 ResType:LockOwner Stype:'OR' Mode: Range-S-S SPID:58 ECID:0 Ec:(0x29f534f8) Value:0x2649f0c0 Cost:(0/0)
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Oct 27, 2004
Hi,
I've got a deadlock problem. The log below has been generated. The problem is that during one day, I have more than 300 deadlocks like it. Before, the were not so many deadlocks.
During past year, the number of users has grow (from 100 before to 500 or 700 now)
*** Deadlock Detected ***
- Requested by: SPID 360 ECID 0 Mode "S"
- Held by: SPID 113 ECID 0 Mode "S"
Index: aaaaa_PK
Table: TABLE_1
Database: MYDB
== Lock: KEY: 22:325576198:1 (ff009ae5078d)
- Requested by: SPID 113 ECID 0 Mode "S"
- Held by: SPID 374 ECID 0 Mode "X"
Index: aaaaa_PK
Table: TABLE_1
Database: MYDB
== Lock: KEY: 22:325576198:1 (ff009ae5078d)
- Requested by: SPID 374 ECID 0 Mode "IX"
- Held by: SPID 360 ECID 0 Mode "S"
Table: TABLE_2
Database: MYDB
== Lock: PAG: 22:1:2428
== Deadlock Lock participant information:
Input Buf: S E L E C T the_rest_of_the_query
SPID: 360 ECID: 0 Statement Type: UNKNOWN TOKEN Line #: 1
Input Buf: s p _ e x e c u t e 8
Input Buf: s p _ c u r s o r 8À B 8 8f ç @ Table I
Input Buf: S E L E C T the_rest_of_the_query
SPID: 360 ECID: 0 Statement Type: SELECT Line #: 1
== Session participant information:
== Deadlock Detected at:
==> Process 360 chosen as deadlock victim
I have done :
- rebuild indexes on all tables (fillfactor 90)
- analysed memory activity
Could a lack of memory be at the origin of the problem ? Which counters in perfmon are significant for memory lack ?
Could the index fill factor could be at the origin of the problem ? At time, it is at 90 percent.
Config : Winnt4 Server, MS-SQL 7 SP4 , 2 GB of RAM , 2 x Xeon 700
Thanks for any help.
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Feb 16, 2004
Hi folks,
I have an application built on top of a questionable DB design which requires overcomplicated selects. The application is experiencing deadlocks regularly, in some cases with only one concurrent user.
I set the trace flag 1204 but am not seeing anything in the Error.log and I initiated a trace in profiler which does not seem to show any deadlock.
Despite having recreated the problem which show my browser hanging indefinitely. When I run the following queries:
SELECT spid, waittime, lastwaittype, waitresource
FROM master..sysprocesses
WHERE waittime > 10000
AND spid > 50
SELECT spid, cmd, status, loginame, open_tran, datediff(s, last_batch, getdate ()) AS [WaitTime(s)]
FROM master..sysprocesses p
WHERE open_tran > 0
AND spid > 50
AND datediff (s, last_batch, getdate ()) > 30
ANd EXISTS (SELECT * FROM master..syslockinfo l
WHERE req_spid = p.spid AND rsc_type <> 2)
I get:
55860978LCK_M_XPAG: 13:1:2573
54AWAITING COMMANDsleeping sa 11499
55UPDATE sleeping sa 21499
respectively. Any help would be welcome.
Thanks in advance,
Don
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Sep 16, 2007
hi,
We have a SQL 2005 transaction database server that suddenly started to issue deadlock errors last week on most of the databases on that server and a lot of timeout errors. Before that, that database server performed very well and timeouts were minimal to zero. I am not sure what changed for it to have these performance problems.
The only major change we did was to convert several varchar columns to nvarchar in several tables (as part of internationalization initiatives). We did not modify the procs from varchar to nvarchar though but would be doing that phase by phase.
There is also one proc in which we used the snapshot isolation level of sql server 2005. These are only 2 major changes done within the past 2 weeks. Would these be the cause for these deadlocks and timeouts on our web-based application?
Any ideas?
Thx
Sri
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