DEBATE: Moving Heavily Used Database Or Breaking-off Indexes
Feb 20, 2002
Scenario:
We run a multiple database environment, with two of the databases receiving most of the user activity. (both write and read). These databases are roughly 25gb each and receive roughly the same amount of activity. Currently both of the .mdf files sit on the same drive shelf. Their log files are located on a separate drive shelf.
Debate: We have an extra fiber channel shelf available for us to use. We are not having too many problems related to performance, but we are always seeking for different ways to increase application/server performance. The debate centers on what to do with the extra shelf. There are two different suggestions on how best to use the shelf. They are:
1)Separate the .mdf files for two most utilized databases. This would separate the databases and the I/O associated with each across two different shelves
2)Break off the indexes for all 5 databases on to the extra shelf. This would leave all the .mdf files on the same shelf, but it would move the I/O associated with the indexes to a different shelf.
Can anyone provide the pros and cons of either suggestion?
I would like to see arguements for either side.
Dave
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Dec 4, 2000
Hi,
I need to separate the data and indexes onto different drives.Currently they r all on same drive..Now i need to move indexes onto a separate drive.There are no file groups now except the default.
I plan to create a file group on the new drive.I know if i Drop clustered indexes and recreate them on the new file group,it will separate the data pages from index pages.But the data pages need to be on the same drive as it is now.So i need to move index pages or non-clustered indexes only on to the new file group on the new drive.Even this can be done by choosing a different file group for the non clustered index in Enterprise manager.But this very cumbersome if there exists many tables as is the case now like 300 tables..
My Question is,
1.Is there any way to script only indexes so that it includes drop and create commands to be created on new file group???
2.Is there any other way to do this..
Please let me know if any body worked on this before..I really appreciate if some body can give me info on this..
thanks
Vish
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I have been asked to move the indexes on our membership database tables to seperate partitions on the server. This is a new concept to me and thought I could use some advice on how to go about doing it.
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I am trying to find out if it is possible to move indexes to a separate filegroup/disk drive during database restore. I am trying this to see if it improves performance. Also if I cannot move the indexes during restore, how would I move them afterwards to a different filegroup/disk drive? Thanks in advance for all the help.
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I want to move all indexes into new separate drive for this I need to create new .ndf file in particular drive.
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Hi All
Please guide me in the following situation. I am new in programming
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Third table is tblDealing with field Company Name , Dealer Name, Dealer Address
According to the normalization rules I shoud put a column named Company_Id in tblCompany(master table)
and use it in other two tables instead of CompanyName colum to reduce the data retundancy.
But my question is accessing data from master detail tables with join quries will take more processing time(taking the company name against the company ID). On the other hand memory wise its same to store the company ID(like 0012786) and company name (like somecompany Ltd). So should I go for normalization or simply store the Company name in each table.
Thanks
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Hi all,
i have a very general question about databases. What is the advantage and disadvantage of using a heavily indexed database?
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My teacher however is not very happy with this answer and wants me to research more. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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Hi, I'm rather new here, but I would like to add the question here
since this project encompasses a lot of areas of ASP.NET (Visual Studio
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My project is about a site which is heavily based on Search Option. So
basically, users will just have to fill in the forms, click search and
it will search throughout the database. For
example...
The website is about a property listing. The database (based on SQL
Server, can be created right through the Visual Studio 2005) consists
of these attributes: ID, Property Name, Property Location, Property
Cost. The user may search based on Name, Location and Cost. For the
cost, there are two forms to fill: the lowest cost allowed and the
highest cost allowed.All
these are put on the Master Page (Located on the top). When the button
Search is clicked, it will display the records that match the forms
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This is my first post, so if i have not posted things in the best manner please lemme know how to be more informative,clear, so that i can learn.
So i have made a view with the following command
GO
/****** Object: View [dbo].[AppraisalView_C] Script Date: 10/11/2007 12:10:43 ******/
SET ANSI_NULLS ON
GO
SET QUOTED_IDENTIFIER ON
GO
ALTER VIEW [dbo].[AppraisalView_C]
AS
SELECT a.Counter
,a.DateCreated
,a.DateModified
,a.UserCreated
,a.UserModified
,a.AppraisalDate_C
,a.TypeID_C
,a.Customer_C
,a.Employee_C
,b.Notes_C
,b.Value_C
,b.AppraisalLineItemID_C
,b.AppraisalID_C
FROM dbo.Appraisal_C AS a
INNER JOIN dbo.AppraisalLineItem_C AS b ON a.AppraisalID_C = b.AppraisalID_C
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
the program im working on creates the SQL call to read from this view and creates
the following query
SELECT A.[AppraisalDate_C], A.[AppraisalID_C], A.[AppraisalLineItemID_C], A.[Customer_C], A.[Employee_C], A.[Notes_C], A.[TypeID_C], A.[Value_C]
FROM AppraisalView_C A
WHERE [AppraisalView_C].[AppraisalID_C] = 'APP-000006'
but I end up getting the dreaded "Msg 4104, Level 16, State 1, Line 1 The multi-part identifier "AppraisalView_C.AppraisalID_C" could not be bound." error....
I cant change the Query that is called, but i can change the view, what is wrong?
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Hi everyone,
If I have a table with some indexes on the foriegn keys and these indexes are heavily fragmented (80%+), is it normal for queries to return incorrect results?
For example if I had a table called Customer( CustID, Name) and Orders (OrderID, CustID, Product, Date).
Lets say I have a non clustered index on CustID in Orders table, and the clustered indexes are Customer.CustID and Orders.OrderID
If the non clusterd index on Orders.CustID becomes heavily fragmented and I am querying the Orders table with TSQL "SELECT * FROM Orders where CustID = @CustID" I sometimes get missing data or incorrect results. In one case all orders for a particular year were missing, but if I queried using OderID they were returned. Rebuilding the index fixed the problem.
I know the index should be rebuilt or reorganized depending on the fragmentation but if one happened to become this fragmented should it start returning incorrect data?
- Using SQL Server Express 2005
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Apr 22, 2004
I have extensively revied both of the design methodologies and I cannot come up with a single clear reason to use one over the other!
Type - Attributes is where you have a table holding the type categories, type, a table holding the type attributes expected and then a table holding the type attribute value:
tbAutombbileCategories
CategoryID | Category
-------------------------------
1 | Car
2 | Truck
3 | Motorcycle
tbAutomobileAttributes
AttributeID | fkCategoryID | Attribute
-------------------------------------------
1 | 1 (car) | Doors
2 | 2 (truck) | Cab
3 | 2 (truck) | Capacity
tbAutomobile
VIN | Category | Make | Model
-------------------------------------
1 | 1 | Honda | Accord
2 | 2 | Ford | F150
tbAutomobileAttributeValues
fkVIN | fkAttributeID | Value
---------------------------------
1 | 1 | 2
2 | 1 | 0
2 | 2 | 1000
Now the above sure is flexible in the sence that a type of automobile can be added without affecting the database schema, but was if some attributes do not take a numeric value? How do you handle computations on attributes specific attributes? Why would I use this structure as opposed to the super type - sub type as shown below?
tbCategories
CategoryID | Category
--------------------------
1 | Cars
2 | Trucks
tbAutomobile (Super Type)
VIN | fkCategoryID | Make | Model
-------------------------------------
1 | 1 |Honda | Accord
tbCars
fkVIN | Doors |
-----------------
1 | 2
tbTrucks
fkVIN | Cab | Capacity
---------------------------
2 | 0 | 1000
Now, adding new sub types probably isn't very flexible but, now you can specify data types for each attribute instead of using sql_variant, which by the documentation cannot be used in aggregate functions and may render poor result when used with ADO.
Regardless of the method used, alot of back end coding is required for computations, what table to send the attributes, etc...
Can anyone please help me clarify. What method is best and why. So far I am leaning for option 2. More work but seems to be more flexible in the sence of customization of each datatype.
E.G., what if you wanted to specify attributes about the cap that can be supplied to trucks?
tbTrucks
fkVIN | Cab | Capacity | fkCapID
--------------------------------------
2 | Y | 1000 | 1
tbCaps
CapID | Vendor | Price | et....
Any thoughts at all? I thought this would have been a pretty damn hot topic!
Mike B
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Hello Group
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Thank You
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Is there a way I can remove all the indexes that are not in my list without too much trouble? I.e. without having to manually go through them all individually. The list is currently in a csv file.
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First, I'd like some help stablishing if it's a good idea or not what I'm thinking, and second is what would be the easyist way to achive the result.
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I want to re-create all my indexes and have them counter2id, companyid, counter2id. ( counter1id is a counter for each company, and counter2id is a global counter like identity ) GOOD OR BAD IDEA?
Since I have hundreds of indexes what is the correct procedure? I was thinking on scripting the database, then dropping all indexes, then recreate clustered indexes, then recreate other indexes. Do I have to take care of anything else foreing relationships, etc.
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