Data Normalization - Best Approach?

Feb 23, 2006

Hi!

I wonder what would be the best (at to be honest - how to do it at all) to perform data normalization with SSIS. The scenario is as follows:
I got plain table with several columns in it.Some of columns can be copied straight into destination tableSome columns (String) should be lookup in another table to get IDOn success just replace string with IDOn fail - create new record in lookup table and return newly created ID
Thanks for any ideas and maybe short samples

Anrijs Vitolins

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A Debate About Data Normalization

May 28, 2008

Hi All
Please guide me in the following situation. I am new in programming
I have a master table tblCompany with fields:  Company Name, Address, Phone number
Second table is tblUsers with     Company Name, User Name , Password
Third table is tblDealing with field Company Name , Dealer Name, Dealer Address
According to the normalization rules I shoud put a column named Company_Id in tblCompany(master table)
and use it in other two tables instead of CompanyName colum to reduce the data retundancy.
But my question is accessing data from master detail tables with join quries will take more processing time(taking the company name against the company ID). On the other hand memory wise its same to store the company ID(like 0012786) and company name (like somecompany Ltd). So should I go for normalization or simply store the Company name in each table.
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or


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I am still confuse in normalization. (1st, 2nd, 3rd, and more.)

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Thxs.

Regards,
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1 0001 00/05/11 14.00 Start
1 0001 00/05/11 15.00
1 0001 00/05/11 16.00 End
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I came up with..

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Which lead to...

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TRUCK(TruckID,License,TruckHome)

Referencial Integriety Statements

FireID in FIRE_Report must exist in FireID in FIRE

FiremanID in FIRE_Report must exist in Fireman

TruckID in FIRE_REPORT must exist in TruckID in TRUCK


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venkat_26178@yahoo.com

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tbEstimatedProjects
Reference (PK) | Name | City | Postal |...
-----------------------------------------------------------
1 | Some Project | Niagra Falls | N8E7J5 | ....

tbAwardedProjects
Project (PK) | Reference
-------------------------
1001 | 1

tbProjectTeam
Project (PK)| Login (PK) | Activity (PK)
-----------------------------------------
1001 | jsmith | Detailer

tbEmployees
Login (PK) | First | Last |......
----------------------------------
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tbDepartmentListing
Login | DeptCode
---------------------
jsmith | ENG

tbDepartments
Code | Department
------------------------
ENG | Engineering

tblDepartmentActivities
Code (PK) | Activity (PK)
----------------------
ENG | Engineering
ENG | Detailer




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Feb 13, 2008

I have 3 code tables :

create table cd_fiq_a
( fiq_id int not null primary key, fiq_name varchar(50) not null)

create table cd_sal_b
( sal_id int not null primary key, sal_name varchar(50) not null)


create table cd_rak_c
( rak_id int not null primary key, rak_name varchar(50) not null)



insert into cd_fiq_a values (1, 'Fiq1')

insert into cd_fiq_a values (2, 'Fiq2')



insert into cd_sal_b values (1, 'Sal1')

insert into cd_sal_b values (2, 'Sal2')

insert into cd_sal_b values (3, 'Sal3')

insert into cd_sal_b values (4, 'Sal4')

insert into cd_sal_b values (5, 'Sal5')



insert into cd_rak_c values (1, 'Rak1')

insert into cd_rak_c values (2, 'Rak2')

insert into cd_rak_c values (3, 'Rak3')

insert into cd_rak_c values (4, 'Rak4')


Now there is a relationship between cd_fiq_a, cd_sal_b and cd_rak_c. For a given Faq there can be one or more records of Sal. For a given Fiq and a given Sal there can be one or more records of Rak.
I am thinking that i can do it one table or two tables:

One Table Solution
----------------------------

create table relation_d
( relation_id int not null primary key,
fiq_id int not null foreign key REFERENCES cd_fiq_a (fiq_id),
sal_id int not null foreign key REFERENCES cd_sal_b (sal_id),
rak_id int not null foreign key REFERENCES cd_rak_c (rak_id),
sort_order int not null )

Two Table Solution
---------------------------

create table relation_header_d
( relation_header_id int not null primary key,
fiq_id int not null foreign key REFERENCES cd_fiq_a (fiq_id),
sal_id int not null foreign key REFERENCES cd_sal_b (sal_id) )


create table relation_detail_e
( relation_detail_id int not null primary key,
relation_header_id int not null foreign key REFERENCES relation_header_d (relation_header_id),
rak_id int not null foreign key REFERENCES cd_rak_c (rak_id),
sort_order int not null )


Which solution is more normalized and will result in better execution of Sql? Or is there any other solution which is more better?

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Hello all,

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- My database consists of 9 tables with the maximim number of columns being 11 which is the contacts table.

- the largest data type is nvarchar 125.

- number of rows in the largest table will eventually grow to hundreds of thousands.

- users access the database online







This is large to me but I expect that to some of you this not.

My application would be easier to setup if the contacts table were to include address info.



So my question is, for a database of this size could I create a contacts table similar to the customer table in the Microsoft Northwind sample data base with the address included, or should I model something more like the contact table in the Microsoft Adventureworks db with the address and State/province split to separate tables.



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Oct 18, 2006

Hai everybody recently i came across this article and i have tried to answer all the follwoing questions. But i am not sure its correct or not..so you peoples can comment on the follwoing questions.



2)
Employee (ssn, Name, Salary, Address, ListOfSkills)



Yes,
No. Ans: No. as list of skills would be repeated.




3)
Department (Did, Dname, ssn)

Yes,
No. Ans: No. ssn and did should be moved to a seperate table.




4)
Vehicle (LicensePlate, Brand,
Model, PurchasePrice, Year, OwnerSSN, OwnerName



Yes,
No Ans: No.




5)
Employee (ssn, Name, Salary, did) (obs.:
employee can only belong to one department)



Yes,
No. Ans: Yes.


6)
Customer (Cust_Id, Name, Salesperson, Region) where Salesperson
determines Region.



Yes,
No. Ans: No.Salesperson and region should be moved to a seperate table.



7)
Component (ItemNo, ComponentNo, ItemName, Quantity) where ItemNo
-> ItemName




Yes,
No. Ans: No.As itemname is a subset of itemno and not a subset of both itemno and componentno.


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Hi,

I'm designing a database to represent items in a restaurant menu. An item has the following information associated with it.

Item-

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Ingredients-

Name, and Price

Catagory-

Name

Options-

Name and Price.

This is how I have it set up so far.

-------------------------------------

Table Item

-ItemID as Primary Key

-Name

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-------------------------------------

Table Ingredients

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-Name

-ItemID as relationship to Table Item

-------------------------------------

Table Catagory

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:eek: =>First ,2nd ,3rd normalization


=>Data Integrity

=>Mappings-
1 1:1 mappings
2 1:2 mappings
3 Many :MAny mappings


=>Establish relationship
1.Simple

2.Complex

3. Multiple



Defination of these all or details with subjects also

pls reply me soon
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--------------------------------------------------
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--------------------
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--------------------
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----------------
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