Delay Insert

May 24, 2006

I am parsing a file where along the flow I use a conditional split. One path of the split is the primary table (with IDENTITY) values. The rest of the paths have a FOREIGN KEY to the primary table.

It seems that SSIS is trying to insert the rows at the same time (which makes sense) but this is causing a problem with the secondary tables and their FK constraint since the primary table is not yet written.

Is there a way to delay the secondary tables until the primary table is done?

(I guess one way is to run through the file twice... once for the primary table and another for the rest but that seems wasteful to me...)

Thanks.

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Insert Delay

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Hi,



I am using Sql 2005 SP1 and merge replication on a database. One of the tables is used for an audit trail and has a dynamic filter applied so that it doesn't replicated every audit trail record to every subscriber.



Our sp's tend to insert records in to the audit trail table when someone inserts a new product (for example). The problem is that just recently the insert of new products has been taking >2 seconds, this is relatively slow compared to how it used to be 2 months ago.



Using profiler I have found that it is the insert in to the audit trail table that is taking all the time, and this is taking a long time because of something replication is doing. From profiler I have found that the following statement is the culprit. This is something that replication is doing but why it take so long I don't know:



select count(*) from [dbo].[MSmerge_repl_view_000CC979122E4C88AF27FE08CDCC84EB_B5F96F71937D4D9A949DEECFE540D0C4] [AUDIT_TRAIL_DETAIL] with (rowlock)
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[dbo].[MSmerge_repl_view_000CC979122E4C88AF27FE08CDCC84EB_B5F96F71937D4D9A949DEECFE540D0C4] [AUDIT_TRAIL_DETAIL] with (rowlock)
where (AUDIT_TRAIL_HEADER.ID = AUDIT_TRAIL_DETAIL.FKAuditTrailHeaderID))



The AUDIT_TRAIL_DETAIL table currently has 1.1 million row in it.



Can anyone give me any clues as to what I should do help improve the performance once again? Should I stop filtering on this table?



Thanks for your help



Graham

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select

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from

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exists (

select top 1 null

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and Type = 'Death Notification Date'

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)

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)

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