Design: Using 1 Table As A Source For 3 Others
Jan 20, 2008
I have a general design question that has me a little stumped.
I have tried doing a number of searches on this subject, but have so far come up with nothing close. Maybe I am just using the wrong keywords, so if this has been covered before I apologize in advance.
The idea is that I have one table that can hold many records in a group, that will then be referenced in numerous other tables in the database. This way I can have a single table to hold this information instead of one for each other table that will reference it.
As an example. I have three tables.
Clients
Vendors
Company
Each of these tables need to have a pointer to a group of phone numbers. Each client, vendor, or my company could have multiple phone numbers, phone, fax, cell etc. I need to be able to maintain foreign key relationships as I don't want to end up with orphans in the phone table.
I can't use a foreign key field in the phone table with links to all three other tables.
I also don't want to create three link tables which would hold the keys to the clients table, and the keys to the phone table.
One thing I did think about is a structure similar to this:
Company:
Phone_Key int (Foreign Keyed to Phone_Key in Phone)
Other company info fields.
Vendors:
Phone_Key int (Foreign Keyed to Phone_Key in Phone)
Other Vendor info fields.
Clients:
Phone_Key int (Foreign Keyed to Phone_Key in Phone)
Other client info fields
Phone:
Phone_Key int PK identity
Parent_Key int FK to Phone_Key
Other info for the phone info
So I create the first phone number entry in the Phone table and assign it's key to the client's table Phone_Key field. (Or any of the other two table's records)
Next I create any additional phone entries in the Phone table assigning Parent_Key the primary number's Phone_Key.
Is this an acceptable approach, or is there a better less convoluted method for designing the table structure?
Second if this is good, how can I configure SQL server to have a default value for Parent_Key which matches the row's Phone_Key value if I don't provide a parent_key value during the insert? I would prefer to not use triggers at this point.
I know that I would have to deal with logic to handle deleting the primary phone_key from the group, but that is doable easily enough.
Thank you,
Chris
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I am trying to Import data into SQL server 2008 using management studio. The source data is an Access dbase. I am trying to do this with queries as the tables do not match but I do need to copy specific columns for the source to the destination. Any brief example selecting a column from the source table, and just entering a dummy value for other columns(other column of data for destination table does not exist in source table).
For the example
Source access dbase, just two columns but no primary key, T2dbase, Employee
New table.
First Name, Description
Tom , manager
Destination dbase SQLServer (T1dbase,Employee table), note 4 columns
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Nestle milk |
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01 32 London 01-01-2013
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01 11 32 - -
01 22 - London -
01 33 - - 01-01-2013
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03 11 36 - -
03 22 - NY -
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CREATE TABLE [dbo].[table1] (
[aaa] [bigint] IDENTITY (10000, 1) NOT NULL ,
[bbb] [int] NOT NULL ,
[ccc] [int] NOT NULL ,
[ddd] [bigint] NOT NULL ,
[eee] [int] NOT NULL ,
[ffff] [varchar] (50) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NOT NULL ,
[gggg] [varchar] (500) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
[hhh] [varchar] (500) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
[iii] [varchar] (50) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
[jjj] [varchar] (50) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
[kkk] [varchar] (500) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
[lll] [varchar] (500) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
[mmm] [varchar] (500) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
[nnnn] [varchar] (500) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
[ooo] [varchar] (500) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
[ppp] [varchar] (500) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
[qqqq] [varchar] (500) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
[rrrr] [varchar] (500) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
[ssss] [varchar] (500) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
[tttt] [varchar] (500) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
[uuuuu] [varchar] (2000) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
[vvvvv] [varchar] (500) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
[wwwww] [varchar] (150) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
[xxxxx] [varchar] (500) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
[yyyyy] [varchar] (500) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
[zzzzz] [int] NULL ,
[abc] [varchar] (500) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
[def] [datetime] NULL ,
[ghi] [datetime] NOT NULL ,
[jkl] [varchar] (1000) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
[mno] [bigint] NULL
) ON [PRIMARY]
I have created a table with above column width. The rowsize is more than 8kb.And the table holds millions of rows of data. So is it a correct way of designing the table?
Or how can I redesign this table.
Thanks.
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Tel1
Tel2
Tel3
Tel4
Tel5
Or Should I have
Customer
Telephone
& then have 5 rows for each customer
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LastName
Gender
DOB
Bio
Works:
Title
Client
Type_of_Building
Style
Address
Year_Designed
Year_Completed
Comments
Architect_ID
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Year_End
Firm_ID
Architect_ID
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Sep 17, 2007
I create following tables.
employee table
------------------------
EMP_ID varchar
NAME varchar
DEPARTMENT_CODEint
POSITION_CODEint
COUNTRY_CODEint
department table
------------------
DEPARTMENT_CODEint
DEPARTMENT_NAMEvarchar
position table
---------------
POSITION_CODEint
POSITION_NAMEvarchar
country table
-------------
COUNTRY_CODEint
COUNTRY_NAMEvarchar
In employee table I have to store two country names.
ie. employee currently working in this country
but his home country name (origin country) is another
name. In country table all countries information available.
ie. country_code and country_name.
How I can design the employee table that it get country_name from COUNTRY TABLE ?
but we can not use same country_code in two fields.
OR
otherwise I will have to create employee table like this
employee table
------------------------
EMP_ID varchar
NAME varchar
DEPARTMENT_CODEint
POSITION_CODEint
COUNTRY_CODEint
COUNTRY_NAMEvarchar
ie. during data entries direct insert the country_name in employee
table ?
I want to create separate table for separate data.
department,postion,country.
How I can use unique country_code in employee table's two
fields ?
regards
Martin
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Hi,
I'm struggling coming up with an optimal table design for the following scenario.
I have a table in which each row is recording information about a document - author, publisher, publication, title, abstract and so forth. I also have an image table which contains information about the images which can be associated with the documents.
Each document can have on of three image types associated with it - an author photo, a publisher logo and a publication logo. There aren't actually that many different authors, publishers and publications in the database so it would be common for many documents to have the same author or the same publisher although authors sometimes write for different publications. In the current setup it's possible for a document to have more than one image of each type associated with it, which is undesirable - this needs to eliminated and we need to ensure that each document can only have one image of each type associated with it.
It'd also be a huge boon if I could get all the information about a document and it's attached images with a single database call. In the current setup, trying to do this returns multiple rows so I've ended up making two calls, one for the document and one for it's attached images.
I can see two possible ways of setting this up, neither of which appeal.
The first is to add three columns to my document table to record the image URLs which is simple but inflexible should I want to add more image types later on.
The second is to set up three new tables for author, publisher and publication and associate each of these with the document table through a key and then to the image table through another key. There's also an image type table which is going to come in to play. I'm unwilling to do this because it's going to just explode the number of tables I've got, especially if we add more image types, and play havoc with my XML schemas.
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Cheers,
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Hi,
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Currently I need to design database table and got stuck.
I have a project and its sub projects. A parent project and its sub projects share the same requirement.The description of the requirement will be changed every day.
For example
Project A - Do Some thing 1 on Project A [09/28/2007]
Project A-A1 - Do Some thing 1 on Project A [09/28/2007] , Do Some thing 2 on Project A [09/29/2007]
Every time the comments updated, both project A and project A-A1 should share the same update i.e select project A and its subproject will be displayed
Project A Do Some thing 1 on Project A [09/28/2007] , Do Some thing 2 on Project A [09/29/2007]
Project A-A1 Do Some thing 1 on Project A [09/28/2007] , Do Some thing 2 on Project A [09/29//2007]
When you tried to insert new sub project, the requirement will be shared with the parent project ie.
Project A - Do Some thing 1 on Project A [09/28/2007]
Project A-A1 - Do Some thing 1 on Project A [09/28/2007] , Do Some thing 2 on Project A [09/29/2007]
Project A-A2 - Do Some thing 1 on Project A [09/28/2007] , Do Some thing 2 on Project A [09/29/2007] , Do Some thing 2 on Project A-A2 [09/30/2007]
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Hi All,
If I have the following data that I need to put in a lookup table, what would be considered the proper create table schema for it?
G, "Group"
R, "Region"
D, "District"
Would you setup your table like this:
Level_ID Varchar(1),
Level_Desc Varchar(20)
Or would you go ahead and create like this
Level_ID Integer,
Level_Code Varchar(1),
Level_Desc Varchar(20)
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Thanks,
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I have a huge database and off lately, I have been experiencing some performance issues on some queries. Some of my tables now have over 10 million records. I noticed the performance issue was caused mainly from one table created as a work around. If I remove the column from the workaround table (but still leave the table in the query), I get the results in 1 second. However if I include a column from the workaround table, the same query takes 14 seconds (same output only an extra column) . I will appreciate any advise on a better design to get around my workaround table.
Below is my scenario
Table - Team
-------------------
Column -
TeamID (Primary Key)
TeamName
Table - Matches
---------------------------
Columns -
MatchID (Primary Key)
MatchName
Team1ID (Foreign to "TeamID" in Table "Team")
Team2ID (Foreign to "TeamID" in Table "Team")
Table - Players
----------------------
Columns -
PlayerID (Primary)
TeamID (Foreign to "TeamID" in Table "Team")
PlayerName
The above tables work very well... The tables I listed below are my cause of issue... I need to write a query to list every match with the names of players who played in it comma delimited (one row per match).
I created a table
Table - MatchPlayer
-----------------------------
Columns -
MatchPlayerID (Primary)
MatchID (Foreign to "MatchD" in Table "Match")
PlayerID (Foreign to "PlayerD" in Table "Player")
But I couldnt write a query that would list me all the players comma delimited in one row per match..
So I put a workaround
Table - MatchPlayer1
-----------------------------
Columns -
MatchPlayerID (Primary)
MatchID (Foreign to "MatchD" in Table "Match")
Team1PlayerNames (Comma Delimited values - varchar(800))
Team2PlayerNames (Comma Delimited values - varchar(800))
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Jan 3, 2007
hi there,im new to sql server 2005 and this forum
need help here pertaining to the database table definitions
all was well when i started using it a month or 2 ago until now that when i tried to redesign my tables,it wouldnt prompt me to choose a primary key for my table
previously what happened was that when i saved the table without selecting an attribute as a primary key,it would prompt me to do so nu could choose to have the primary key auto-generated
but now it seems it stopped prompting me about it
whats wrong with it?anyone else faced this?
pardon my question,im a noob at this sql server thingie
thanx in advance!
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We are in the early stages of developing a small project and I have a question I would like an opinion on.
When deciding how to design a table to store information on users who will be different types.
The project involves setting up webpage that allow " appointment setters" to book demos for our Sales reps. We want to keep track of how many each appointment setter books.
I have a user table with user_id, fname,lname, type. Where type represents the type of users they will be either "appointment setter" or "Sales Rep".
In the Appointment table I would like to store the Appoinment setter ID, sales rep Id, date/time appointment was booked and some other data on the appointment.
My question is how do I set up the relationship from the appointment table back to the user table.
Since each record in the appointment table will have a App Setter ID and a Sales Rep ID.
Should I just pick either the app setter id or the sales rep id as the foreign key back to the userID in the user table. Or is there another method how to handle this.
Any thoughts or articles would be greatly appreciated.
thanks,
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hi,
i have a table with data in the following format (dont ask why it was done this way, its not something i can change)
so my table looks like this:
point :timestamp :value
_________________________
var1 11:00 5
var2 11:00 2.3
var3 11:00 21
var1 12:00 5.2
var2 12:00 2.4
var3 12:00 18
and so on.
i would like to have my data rearranged to look like the following:
timestamp :var1 value :var2 value :var3 value
________________________________________________
11:00 x y z
12:00 a b c
....
i am working with my database in a c sharp application. so if anyone does come up with a solution for this maybe keep that in mind so that i can discuss how to impliment it in the code.
thanks guys.
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