Determine That This Is Deterministic

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Hi all... This is the definition on the M/S site:

"Deterministic functions always return the same result any time they are called with a specific set of input values and given the same state of the database. Nondeterministic functions may return different results each time they are called with a specific set of input values even if the database state that they access remains the same."

Good... straight forward, right? Ok.... try entering thses command seperately:


Create Table Readings (ReadingDate DateTime Not Null);



Create Function [dbo].[funct_SameDate](@datReadingDate Datetime)

Returns DateTime

As

Begin

return @datReadingDate;

End


Alter table Readings add

[TempColumn] as (dbo.[funct_SameDate](ReadingDate)) PERSISTED NOT NULL;


Error on last command returns:

Computed column 'TempColumn' in table 'Readings' cannot be persisted because the column is non-deterministic.


Can someone please explain this to me? The same value is always being returned.


This does work:


Create Table Readings (ReadingDate DateTime Not Null);

Alter table Readings add [TempColumn] as (ReadingDate) PERSISTED NOT NULL;


I obviously want to do more things inside the function, but I can't get by the first step.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!

Forch

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Per 2005 BOL:

Determinism
Deterministic functions always return the same result any time they are called with a specific set of input values and given the same state of the database. Nondeterministic functions may return different results each time they are called with a specific set of input values even if the database state that they access remains the same.
The Database Engine automatically analyzes the body of Transact-SQL functions and evaluates whether the function is deterministic. For example, if the function calls other functions that are non-deterministic, or if the function calls extended stored procedures, then the Database Engine marks the function as non-deterministic. For common language runtime (CLR) functions, the Database Engine relies on the author of the function to mark the function as deterministic or not using the SqlFunction custom attribute.


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TIA, cfr

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