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Any suggestions or assistance would be much appreciated... up to my eyes in tempdb..... Bill.

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- A task can't be started until all of its dependencies have been completed.
- after a task is completed (meanings its status is marked "done"), I need to return a list of all the new tasks that are ready to be started.

When TaskID 2 is marked "Done", then TaskID 4 is ready to begin; however, TaskID 5 is not ready to begin since it depends on 2 and 3, and 3 hasn't been completed yet.

The requirements of the query are very simple, but the implementation is difficult.


I'll post a prelimenary solution in the next post:

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