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Hi There,
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Select For Cursor Returns 0 Same Select Highlighted Returns 2,000+

Jul 23, 2005

Grrr!I'm trying to run a script:print 'Declaring cursor'declare cInv cursor forward_only static forselectdistinctinv.company,inv.contact,inv.address1,inv.city,inv.state,inv.postalcode,inv.cmcompanyidfromdedupe.dbo.ln_invoice as invleft joindedupe.dbo.customerid as cidondbo.fnCleanString(inv.company) = cid.searchcowhere((inv.customerid is nulland cid.searchco is null)and (inv.date >= '01/01/2003' or (inv.date < '01/01/2003' andinv.outstanding > 0.01))and not inv.company is null)print 'Cursor declared'declare@contact varchar(75),@company varchar(50),@address1 varchar(75),@city varchar(30),@state varchar(20),@zip varchar(10),@cmcompanyid varchar(32),@iCount int,@FetchString varchar(512)open cInvprint 'cursor opened'fetch cInv into@company,@contact,@address1,@city,@state,@zip,@cmc ompanyidprint 'Cursor fetched @@Cursor_rows = ' + cast(@@cursor_rows asvarchar(5))All the prints are there to help me figure out what's going on!When I get to the Print 'Cursor fetched @@cursor_rows....the value is 0 and the script skips down to the close and deallocate.BUT, if I just highlight the Select...When section, I get over 2,000rows. What am I missing?Thanks.

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