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In a recent attempt to keep the size of my transaction log files down I altered the schedule of my SQL Server log backups from running every 15 minutes from 07:00 to 19:00 to run every 15 minutes.My company also uses a Dell AppAssure application to also take backups. The backups are of the entire drives so I don't this will affect the size of my SQL log files but I did notice that AppAssure has a tick box to truncate the SQL logs so it made me wonder that it could affect the size of my log file. The Appassure backups currently run every 15 minutes from 07:00 to 19:00. I'm wondering if I would be able to maintain my log files at a smaller size if I ran this every 15 minutes from 07:00 to 07:00.

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