END CONVERSATION WITH CLEANUP, Is This Bad? Records Pile Up In Queues Without It.
Sep 13, 2006
I have read from a variety of sources that using the "WITH CLEANUP" option on
a "END CONVERSATION" statement is bad and unnecessary. (Question
#1) Is this true???
My code does not work properly if I don't
use the "WITH CLEANUP" option. My code leaves closed conversation records in the
queues if I leave out the "WITH CLEANUP" option. The "END CONVERSATION"
statement is executing properly and flagging the conversation record as closed
but the records don't get deleted. All the messages are going back and forth
properly too.
My code is based on the HelloWorld ServiceBroker sample
which does not use "WITH CLEANUP". When I run the sample scripts everything
works great and the conversation records are deleted. However, this sample does
not uses an activation stored procedure to receive messages and respond with the
results. When I copy and paste the receive messages sample code into an
activation stored procedure is when the problem comes up. It's the same code!
(Question #2) Why am I getting different results depending
how the code is executed/activated???
This is could be a tough one. I
just hope somebody else has seen it too and figured it out. Thanks for the
help!
Thanks,
Greg Van Mullem
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Sep 22, 2006
Hi, All!
Could you please help me in my problem?
I develop Service Broker applcation, SB has 20 queues, also I have one Activation Procedure which carries out following actions:
CREATE PROCEDURE proc_ms_Activation
AS
BEGIN
WAITFOR (RECEIVE TOP(1) message_type_name, message_body, conversation_handle, message_id FROM Queue1)
-- process message, save statisctisc and etc
END
Problem in that: when I execute command WAITFOR (RECEIVE TOP (1) message_type_name, message_body, conversation_handle, message_id FROM Queue1) I should specify a name concrete Queue, for example "... FROM Queue1 ". I would like to use one procedure for processing all Queue.
How I can design my application that one Activation Procedure processed messages from all Queues?
Thank a lot for help.
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Apr 2, 2008
Hello, please help!!
I have spent days searching the web and forums for an answer to this simple question and cannot find an example.
I have built a service broker application on sql server 2005. The application puts some xml on an incoming queue which is basically a few parameters to be used in a query. This queue will then call a stored proc which does some business logic and puts the resulting results in another queue also in xml.
I have written a test harness in SQL to put messages on the inbound queue and then some sql to retrieve the returned code from the outbound queue.
What I want to do is be able to convert the SQL which does this into .net code to be used by an application. i.e. write in .net some code to put xml on a queue and then write some .net code to retrieve xml from another queue.
I wouldn't have thought this would be a difficult thing to do and would have been done hundreds of times, but unable to find anything to simply send and retrieve XML to service broker queues....
thanks for your help.. its really needed. I found some links, but they are really vague and often doing select statments in service broker or something like this. I don't want to call any sql, just send and recieve XML on the queues.
any example code that does this, would be really helpfull
kind regards,
David Weeden
Database Developer
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Dec 3, 2007
Hi
I'm using service broker and keep getting errors in the log even though everythig is working as expected
SQL Server 2005
Two databases
Two end points - 1 in each database
Two stored procedures:
SP1 is activated when a message enters the sending queue. it insert a new row in a table
SP2 is activated when a response is sent from the receiving queue. it cleans up the sending queue.
I have a table with an update trigger
In that trigger, if the updted row meets a certain condition a dialogue is created and a message is sent to the sending queue.
I know that SP1 and SP2 are behaving properly because i get the expected result.
Sp1 is inserteding the expected data in the table
SP2 is cleaning up the sending queue.
In the Sql Server log however i'm getting errors on both of the stored procs.
error #1
The activated proc <SP 1 Name> running on queue Applications.dbo.ffreceiverQueue output the following: 'The conversation handle is missing. Specify a conversation handle.'
error #2
The activated proc <SP 2 Name> running on queue ADAPT_APP.dbo.ffsenderQueue output the following: 'The conversation handle is missing. Specify a conversation handle.'
I would appreceiate anybody's help into why i'm getting this. have i set up the stored procs in correctly?
i can provide code of the stored procs if that helps.
thanks.
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Apr 19, 2006
Hi:
My service broker was working perfectly fine earlier. As I was testing...I recreated the whole service broker once again.
Now I am able to get the message at the server end from intiator. When trying to send message from my server to the intiator it gives this error in sql profiler.
broker:message undeliverable: This message could not be delivered because the Conversation ID cannot be associated with an active conversation. The message origin is: 'Transport'.
broker:message undeliverable This message could not be delivered because the 'receive sequenced message' action cannot be performed in the 'ERROR' state.
How do I proceed now ?
Thanks,
Pramod
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Jan 18, 2008
We have implemented our service broker architecture using conversation handle reuse per MS/Remus's recommendations. We have all of the sudden started receiving the conversation handle not found errors in the sql log every hour or so (which makes perfect sense considering the dialog timer is set for 1 hour). My question is...is this expected behavior when you have employed conversation recycling? Should you expect to see these messages pop up every hour, but the logic in the queuing proc says to retry after deleting from your conversation handle table so the messages is enqueued as expected?
Second question...i think i know why we were not receiving these errors before and wanted to confirm this theory as well. In the queuing proc I was not initializing the variable @Counter to 0 so when it came down to the retry logic it could not add 1 to null so was never entering that part of the code...I am guessing with this set up it would actually output the error to the application calling the queueing proc and NOT into the SQL error logs...is this a correct assumption?
I have attached an example of one of the queuing procs below:
Code Block
DECLARE @conversationHandle UNIQUEIDENTIFIER,
@err int,
@counter int,
@DialogTimeOut int,
@Message nvarchar(max),
@SendType int,
@ConversationID uniqueidentifier
select @Counter = 0 -- THIS PART VERY IMPORTANT LOL :)
select @DialogTimeOut = Value
from dbo.tConfiguration with (nolock)
where keyvalue = 'ConversationEndpoints' and subvalue = 'DeleteAfterSec'
WHILE (1=1)
BEGIN
-- Lookup the current SPIDs handle
SELECT @conversationHandle = [handle] FROM tConversationSPID with (nolock)
WHERE spid = @@SPID and messagetype = 'TestQueueMsg';
IF @conversationHandle IS NULL
BEGIN
BEGIN DIALOG CONVERSATION @conversationHandle
FROM SERVICE [InitiatorQueue_SER]
TO SERVICE 'ReceiveTestQueue_SER'
ON CONTRACT [TestQueueMsg_CON]
WITH ENCRYPTION = OFF;
BEGIN CONVERSATION TIMER ( @conversationHandle )
TIMEOUT = @DialogTimeOut
-- insert the conversation in the association table
INSERT INTO tConversationSPID
([spid], MessageType,[handle])
VALUES
(@@SPID, 'TestQueueMsg', @conversationHandle);
SEND ON CONVERSATION @conversationHandle
MESSAGE TYPE [TestQueueMsg] (@Message)
END
ELSE IF @conversationHandle IS NOT NULL
BEGIN
SEND ON CONVERSATION @conversationHandle
MESSAGE TYPE [TestQueueMsg] (@Message)
END
SELECT @err = @@ERROR;
-- if succeeded, exit the loop now
IF (@err = 0)
BREAK;
SELECT @counter = @counter + 1;
IF @counter > 10
BEGIN
-- Refer to http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms164086.aspx for severity levels
EXEC spLogMessageQueue 20002, 8, 'Failed to SEND on a conversation for more than 10 times. Error %i.'
BREAK;
END
-- We tried on the said conversation, but failed
-- remove the record from the association table, then
-- let the loop try again
DELETE FROM tConversationSPID
WHERE [spid] = @@SPID;
SELECT @conversationHandle = NULL;
END;
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I'm just getting around to understanding notification services in sql 2005 and I have been working through some examples. I'm curious as to why there are always two queues and two corresponding services being set up even when both queues/services exist in the same database. Here is my ultimate goal. I want to have triggers put messages on the queue for various stored procedures to handle asynchronously - i.e. table xyz is updated, and I need a stored proc to take the updated values and possibly generate or update rows in another table. When I tried to set up one queue and one service, nothing ever seems to get put on the queue:
Create Message Type TestMessageType Validation = Well_Formed_XML;
Create Contract TestContract (TestMessageType Sent By Any);
Create Queue TestQueue;
Create Service TestService ON Queue TestQueue(TestContract);
Begin Tran;
Declare @DialogHandle UNIQUEIDENTIFIER;
Begin Dialog Conversation @DialogHandle
From Service TestService
To Service 'TestService'
On Contract TestContract
Send On Conversation @DialogHandle
Message Type TestMessageType (N'<message>Hello World</message>');
End Conversation @DialogHandle;
Commit Tran;
Select * From dbo.TestQueue;
(nothing is ever returned)
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Mar 10, 2006
Hello,
I'm trying to do a very simple example of sending a message from Initiator queue to Target queue. The result is no messages are delivered.
Here's the code:
DECLARE @conversationHandle UNIQUEIDENTIFIER
BEGIN DIALOG CONVERSATION @conversationHandle
FROM SERVICE GmiInitiatorService
TO SERVICE 'GmiTargetService'
ON CONTRACT GmiContract
WITH ENCRYPTION = OFF;
SEND ON CONVERSATION @conversationHandle MESSAGE TYPE GmiMessage ('test');
END CONVERSATION @conversationHandle
All three queues are empty (Initiator, Transmission, Target). When I comment out the last line ("end conversation"), the messages get stuck in the Initiator queue.
Please help!!
Thank you.
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Hi
We can create a queue on a filegroup for performance reasons however what about the sys.transmission_queue which could have messages backing up when the target is down.
What are your thoughts.
Cheers
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Hi There
In terms of scaling out Service Broker to hundreds of instances, would it be better from a performance perspective so have one queue with all the messages coming in(obviously with a high number for max_queue readers), or create a number of queues and spread the messages across them ? Or is there no significant difference.
The one reason i am leaning towords multiple queues is so that is poison messages are found or a something lese goes wrong with a queue not all messages are affected, however creating multipple queues makes it more complex and required more administration ?
Any general best practice when it comes to this ?
Thank You
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Hi
We have problems with duplicate messages in Service Broker queues. We have tried the "fire and forget" method.
Senario
Initiator doing SEND and END Conversation , target doing RECEIVE and End Conversation ,
Sql servar agent job runing every minute doing End conversation with cleanup in sys.conversations_endpionts queue.
We are runing 5000 - 10000 messages per minute.
When the clean up job is running we get som duplicte messages in the target queue.
Enviroment
Two separate machines runing Sql Server 2005 Standard Editon SP2
Initiator Machine
CREATE MESSAGE TYPE [TransactionStatisticsSend] AUTHORIZATION [dbo] VALIDATION = WELL_FORMED_XML
CREATE CONTRACT [TransactionStatistics] AUTHORIZATION [dbo] ([TransactionStatisticsSend] SENT BY ANY)
CREATE QUEUE [dbo].[TransactionStatisticsQueueActive] WITH STATUS = ON , RETENTION = OFF
ON [PRIMARY]
CREATE SERVICE [TransactionStatisticsServiceActive] AUTHORIZATION [dbo] ON QUEUE [dbo].[TransactionStatisticsQueueActive] ([TransactionStatistics])
CREATE ROUTE [Route::TransactionStatisticsServiceStat,0705DBB2-8CBA-43BC-A8FF-774A27F8ABC0] AUTHORIZATION [dbo] WITH SERVICE_NAME = N'TransactionStatisticsServiceStat' , ADDRESS = N'tcp://EBSDBCONFIG1A:4022'
CREATE REMOTE SERVICE BINDING [RSB::TransactionStatisticsServiceStat] AUTHORIZATION [dbo] TO SERVICE N'TransactionStatisticsServiceStat' WITH USER = [Proxy::BtsDebitServiceStat] , ANONYMOUS = OFF
CREATE ENDPOINT [EBSDBCURR1A_BROKER]
AUTHORIZATION [BTSTULLENtsappl]
STATE=STARTED
AS TCP (LISTENER_PORT = 4022, LISTENER_IP = ALL)
FOR SERVICE_BROKER (MESSAGE_FORWARDING = DISABLED
, MESSAGE_FORWARD_SIZE = 10
, AUTHENTICATION = CERTIFICATE [EBSDBCURR1A]
, ENCRYPTION = REQUIRED ALGORITHM RC4)
ALTER PROCEDURE [dbo].[Bts_SP_TransactionStatPrepare]
(@TransferID varchar(30))
AS
declare
@RowCount Int,
@ErrorSave Int,
@Msg xml,
@dialog_handle UNIQUEIDENTIFIER
Begin
BEGIN TRY
set @msg = (Select
Regtime,
SendPartShortName,
RecPartShortName,
MsgType,
From btslogactive.dbo.StatTransferlog Tl
where TransferID = @TransferID
FOR XML RAW)
BEGIN DIALOG CONVERSATION @dialog_handle
FROM SERVICE [TransactionStatisticsServiceActive]
TO SERVICE 'TransactionStatisticsServiceStat'
ON CONTRACT [TransactionStatistics]
WITH ENCRYPTION = OFF ;
SEND ON CONVERSATION @dialog_handle
MESSAGE TYPE [TransactionStatisticsSend]
(@msg) ;
END CONVERSATION @dialog_handle
END TRY
BEGIN CATCH
SELECT
ERROR_NUMBER() as ErrorNumber,
ERROR_MESSAGE() as ErrorMessage;
END CATCH
End
Target Machine
CREATE MESSAGE TYPE [TransactionStatisticsSend] AUTHORIZATION [dbo] VALIDATION = WELL_FORMED_XML
CREATE CONTRACT [TransactionStatistics] AUTHORIZATION [dbo] ([TransactionStatisticsSend] SENT BY ANY)
CREATE QUEUE [dbo].[TransactionStatisticsQueueStat] WITH STATUS = ON , RETENTION = OFF
, ACTIVATION ( STATUS = ON , PROCEDURE_NAME = [dbo].[Bts_SP_TransactionStatUpdateBroker] , MAX_QUEUE_READERS = 1 , EXECUTE AS N'dbo' ) ON [PRIMARY]
CREATE SERVICE [TransactionStatisticsServiceStat] AUTHORIZATION [dbo] ON QUEUE [dbo].[TransactionStatisticsQueueStat] ([TransactionStatistics])
CREATE ROUTE [Route::TransactionStatisticsServiceActive,D8A1A78B-CEAD-4C63-B3B3-3C986D2AB3AA] AUTHORIZATION [dbo] WITH SERVICE_NAME = N'TransactionStatisticsServiceActive' , BROKER_INSTANCE = N'D8A1A78B-CEAD-4C63-B3B3-3C986D2AB3AA' , ADDRESS = N'tcp://EBSDBCURR1A:4022'
CREATE ENDPOINT [EBSDBCONFIG1A_BROKER]
AUTHORIZATION [BTSTULLENtsappl]
STATE=STARTED
AS TCP (LISTENER_PORT = 4022, LISTENER_IP = ALL)
FOR SERVICE_BROKER (MESSAGE_FORWARDING = DISABLED
, MESSAGE_FORWARD_SIZE = 10
, AUTHENTICATION = CERTIFICATE [EBSDBCONFIG1A]
, ENCRYPTION = REQUIRED ALGORITHM RC4)
Activation procedure
ALTER PROCEDURE [dbo].[Bts_SP_TransactionStatUpdateBroker]
AS
DECLARE @MessageType sysname
DECLARE @ConversationHandle uniqueidentifier
DECLARE @MessageBody XML
DECLARE
@RegTime datetime,
@SendPartShortName varchar(30),
@RecPartShortName varchar(30),
@RC int
BEGIN TRANSACTION;
WHILE (1=1)
BEGIN
WAITFOR
(
RECEIVE TOP (1)
@MessageType = message_type_name,
@MessageBody = message_body,
@ConversationHandle = conversation_handle,
@SeqNo = message_sequence_number
FROM [TransactionStatisticsQueueStat]
), TIMEOUT 5000;
IF (@@ROWCOUNT = 0)
BEGIN
ROLLBACK TRANSACTION
RETURN
END
IF (@MessageType = 'http://schemas.microsoft.com/SQL/ServiceBroker/EndDialog')
BEGIN
END CONVERSATION @ConversationHandle
BREAK
END
ELSE IF (@MessageType = 'http://schemas.microsoft.com/SQL/ServiceBroker/Error')
BEGIN
END CONVERSATION @ConversationHandle
BREAK
END
ELSE IF (@MessageType = 'TransactionStatisticsSend')
BEGIN
Begin try
SET @RegTime = @MessageBody.value('(/row/@Regtime)[1]', 'datetime')
SET @SendPartShortName = @MessageBody.value('(/row/@SendPartShortName)[1]', 'varchar(30)')
SET @RecPartShortName = @MessageBody.value('(/row/@RecPartShortName)[1]', 'varchar(30)')
SET @MsgType = @MessageBody.value('(/row/@MsgType)[1]', 'varchar(30)')
.
End try
BEGIN CATCH
SELECT
ERROR_NUMBER() as ErrorNumber,
ERROR_MESSAGE() as ErrorMessage;
END CONVERSATION @ConversationHandle
BREAK
END CATCH
-- EXEC @RC = SP_XXXXX
END
END CONVERSATION @ConversationHandle
BREAK
END
END
COMMIT TRANSACTION
RETURN
Sql Server Agent job procedure
ALTER PROCEDURE [dbo].[Bts_SP_Del_Conversation_Endpoints]
AS
begin
DECLARE c_PurgeConversationEndpoints CURSOR FAST_FORWARD
FOR SELECT conversation_handle
FROM sys.conversation_endpoints
with (nolock)
WHERE is_system = 0
AND [State] = 'CD';
OPEN c_PurgeConversationEndpoints;
DECLARE @DialogHandle UNIQUEIDENTIFIER;
FETCH NEXT FROM c_PurgeConversationEndpoints
INTO @DialogHandle;
WHILE @@FETCH_STATUS = 0
BEGIN
END CONVERSATION @DialogHandle WITH CLEANUP;
FETCH NEXT FROM c_PurgeConversationEndpoints
INTO @DialogHandle;
END
CLOSE c_PurgeConversationEndpoints;
DEALLOCATE c_PurgeConversationEndpoints;
end
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Hello All:
I've been experimenting with the new SQL Server Service Broker, and I think I've discovered some interesting behavior. Service Broker relies on "Queues" to store messages that need to be processed. Service Broker operates by sending a message from one Queue (the INITIATOR Quque) to another Queue (the TARGET Queue). A Queue can have an "Activation Stored Procedure" associated with it. This procedure is what actually processes the messages in the Queue.
The first behavior I obeserved related to the setting of a Queue's RETENTION parameter. The RETENTION parameter indicates whether or not the Queue will retain a copy of the messages it receives. By default, the parameter's value is "OFF" (meaning it will not retain messages). In the Activation Stored Procedure of my TARGET Queue, I used "sp_send_dbmail" to send an e-mail message. I wanted to capture the "conversation_handle" (a uniqueidentifier that identifies a particular message) and include it in the body of the e-mail. I was unable to capture it, because the Queue's RETENTION parameter was "OFF". When I tried to capture the conversation_handle from the INITIATOR queue (whose RETENTION parameter was "ON"), I was successful. The moral of the story is you apparently need to have RETENTION = "ON" if you need to capture information from a Queue.
The second behavior I observed relates to the setting of a Queue's MAX_QUEUE_READERS setting. This setting allows you to automatically invoke multiple instances of the Activation Stored Procedure. As messages come into the Queue, the Queue creates an additional instance of the Activation Stored Procedure up to the number you specified in the MAX_QUEUE_READERS setting. This allows parallel processing of messages in the Queue. There is also a programming technique called a "RECEIVE LOOP" which is used for processing messages. In the RECEIVE LOOP, you have a parameter called WAITFOR which tells the Queue whether it should stay on constant alert for new messages or whether it should time out after a specified number of seconds.
If you have the Queue wait indefinitely (by not specifying a TIMEOUT value in the WAITFOR statement) and you have invoked multiple copies of the Activation Stored Procedure, the procedure will remain in memory indefinitely. Therefore, if you make a change to the code of the Activation Stored Procedure, the change will NOT be reflected in the Activation Stored Procedure until you change the STATUS of the Queue. I had changed my procedure so that it would not send an e-mail, but the e-mails kept coming. The e-mails did not stop until I executed an ALTER QUEUE statement. I ran "ALTER QUEUE queue_name WITH STATUS = OFF;" and then I ran "ALTER QUEUE queue_name WITH STATUS = ON;" After that, the changes were reflected in the procedure.
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I can imagine two implementation scenarios below.
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/************************************************** *****************/
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ss2.publisher_db = @publisher_db and
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/************************************************** *******************/
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publisher_db = @publisher_db and
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subscriber_db = @subscriber_db
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publisher_db = @publisher_db and
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Because when I use peer to peer replication the @allow_initialize_from_backup publication property is set to true which is good. But it has the down side that transactions are stored the max retention period in the distribution database. I want to use the deafault 72 hours for my retention period so that the subscritions don't get deactivated but in a system with a high transaction rate there wil be a lot of transactions in 72 hours. This means that the cleanup job will have a tough time to figure out which transactions to delete so the cleanup job will run for a long time not a very big problem but the problem is that the cleanup job will keep the log reader agent from delivering trtansactions to the distribution database and the subscribers won't get their data in time.
Could Microsoft please give me a switch so I can choose when I want to save my transaction and when I want to delete them as soon as they have been delivered to all subscribers?
Is this a feature in SQL Server 2008? Could it be released in SP3 for SQL Server 2005. (The SP 2 cleanup job has a bug so I have to use the SP 1 verison of the cleanup job)
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Mar 6, 2006
hello，if I want to cleanup all the data that in a database,how to do?
thanks!
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I have set up a history cleanup task to be performed once per week, however it doesn't seem to delete the old files, what am I doing wrong?
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Mar 19, 2007
Ques; can "both" files the db backup (.bak) file "and" the (.txt)report file in a maint plan object be cleaned up at same time?
The object is working ok but trying to setup and match backup text reports to the db, I have way more .bak files than text files.
Created from/after db maint plan (which is working ok) from/in the object Maintenance Cleanup Task and the object selections are
Delete files of the following type:
_backup files
_maintenance plan text reports
File location:
_delte specific file
File name: __
_search folder and delete files based on an extension
Folder:__
File extension:__
File age:
_Delete files based on the age of the file at task run time...
delete files oder than the following. . . .
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Apr 24, 2007
Hi all,
I created a maintenance plan with a cleanup task to delete bak files older than 4 days, but it keeps deleting everything but the current day files.
This is the generated T-SQL:
EXECUTE master.dbo.xp_delete_file 0,N'F:SQLDBBACKUP',N'BAK',N'2007-04-20T11:59:30',1
Someone can tell what's wrong with it?
I've noticed that wheter if you put the condition on files' age or not it generates exactly the same T-SQL statement, it says that the actual one could be different if you set conditions on the task, but if it is so why they work the saem way?
Thanks!
Cheers,
Giovanni
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Nov 12, 2007
I have problem with 'Ghost cleanup' system process. It is locking up my tables and user transactions are keep getting wait status. So is there any way to disable or change the schedule of ghost cleaner?
Thanks in advance..
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Sep 14, 2007
SQL Server 2005 Standard Edition
Windows Server 2003.
I have created an €˜Backup Database Task€™ to create the database backups and checked the option €œCreate a subdirectory for each database€?.
When I add the €œMaintenance Cleanup Task€? I am not getting the similar option to clean the backup files in the subdirectory.
Any suggestion on how to solve this?
I can always uncheck the €œCreate a subdirectory for each database€? option to create the backup files in one location.
Thank you,
Smith
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Aug 22, 2007
sysmail_mailitems table in msdb stores data for emails sent using database mail. The DB was growing and I found sysmail_mailitems table is taking almost 85% space. What is the procedure to clean up data in this table. I did dirty way of removing FK's for the table, truncating data and re-establishing FK relationships.
Is there some way or settings somewhere to schedule cleanup on this table?
Thanks,
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Sep 15, 2006
Using SQL Server 2005. Replication working fine except the distribution table is continuely growing. Started to configure maintenance job (catagory: REPL-Distribution Cleanup) Any suggested steps that will not break the replication. Is there a SP available that will address my problem.
Thanks,
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