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The schedules of Job D and Job B overlap as you can see in my example above.
This happens only once per month though. I have over 20 jobs with sometimes very frequent execution times, like every 5 minutes or every 20 minutes and jobs that run hourly, daily, weekdays only, weekends only, monthly once etc.

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I also want to be able to generate a report that shows me what should have been done and what was actually done by the jobs (note on the site, 6 of the jobs create new jobs on the fly for other database servers and this is sometimes not happening properly, without getting any error message. The volume of jobs makes the manual search like a search for a needle in a haystack.)

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7/5/2007 1:35pm
7/5/2007 1:40pm
7/5/2007 1:45pm

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7/5/2007 1:50pm
7/5/2007 1:55pm
7/5/2007 2:00pm
7/6/2007 1:30pm
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7/6/2007 1:40pm
7/6/2007 1:45pm
7/6/2007 1:50pm
7/6/2007 1:55pm
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And don't forget that you can have more than one schedule record for any single job, including no-schedule record (which would not interest me).

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We have a stored procedure that builds a sql statement and executes it using the Execute command. When I execute the stored procedure through query analyzer it takes close to 5 seconds to execute. When I print out the exact same statement and execute it directly in query analyzer as "raw sql", it takes 0.5 seconds - meaning it takes 10 times longer for the code to execute in the stored proc. I altered the stored proc to execute the printed sql instead of building but it still takes the full 5 seconds and there were no changes in the execution plan. This makes me confident that the issue is not caused by the dynamic sql. I've used with recompile to make sure that the stored procedure caches the most recent execution plan. When I compare the execution plans, the stored proc uses a nested loop whereas the raw sql statement uses a hash join. Seeing that, I added the hash hint to the stored proc and doing so brought down the execution time down from 5 secs to 2 secs but still the raw sql statement uses a clustered index whereas the stored proc uses a non-clustered index and that makes the statement 4 times slower. This proves how efficient clustered indexes are over non-clustered ones, but it doesn't help me since, as far as I know, I can't force SQL Server to use the clustered index.


Does anyone know why sql server is generating such an inefficient execution plan for the stored proc compared to the execution plan that it generates when executing the raw sql statement? The only thing I can think of is that some stats are not updated and that somehow throws off the stored proc. But then again, shouldn't it affect the raw sql statement?


Thank you,


Michael Tzoanos

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