I'm currently working on a system that makes a number of read queries whilst updates are taking place. Assuming that these reads don't need to be 100% accurate (i.e. they may incorrectly reflect partial updates) is there any other problem/danger from using WITH (NOLOCK)?
I'm aware of one specific NOLOCK bug but I wanted to see what the community thought.
I'm moving data between identical tables and have to use a flat file as an intermediary. I thought: "No problem, SSIS can do a quick export to a file, then move the file to another server, then use SSIS to import the data to the new server."
Seems simple, right?
I'm hitting all sorts of surprising data conversion errors. I used the export wizard to create the export package. This works fine. However using the same flat file definition, the import package fails -- even when I have no destination. That is I have just one data flow task that contains only one control: the Flat File source. When I run the package the flat file definition fails with data type conversion and truncation errors. One of the obvious errors is for boolean types. The SQL field is a bit, SSIS defined the column as DT_BOOL, the output of the data are literal text values "TRUE" and "FALSE". So SSIS converts a sql datatype of bit to "TRUE" and "FALSE" on export, but can't make the reverse conversion on import?
Does anyone else find this surprising? I would expect that what SSIS exports, it can import given all the same table and flat file definitions. Is SSIS the wrong tool to do such simple bulk copies? I'd like to avoid using BCP because this process will need to run automatically within SQL Agent so we can leverage all the error tracking and system monitoring.
I need some help to under stand when the right time is for NOLOCK. I work in a small dev group and NOLOCK seams to be a buzz word and others are throwing it in all over for no apparent reason.
I read the thing from http://www.sql-server-performance.com/ and I am sure that our web and SQL servers are about 100x over sized for the application. While are ASP.Net (VB) app may demonstrate some hesitation from time to time I am more inclined to blame poor VB.Net coding techniques before slow SQL. The point being the NOLOCK is being added to SELECTS that are not part of a transaction and were using the SQL data adapter to return datasets or single column values.
Also I am not even sure it’s being used correctly. The OLM has the example:
SELECT au_lname FROM authors WITH (NOLOCK)
However I am seeing it formatted like this:
SELECT au_lname FROM authors (NOLOCK)
I am by no mean an expert, I follow what I read in books or from examples from others. And I have never read in a book go crazy with NOLOCK because it’s the bomb!
Any thoughts? I am trying to learn as much as I can before I raise my hand and say this might be a bad idea.
Thanks
Other than "dirty" reads, what are the cons of using NOLOCK throughout a query?
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I have a job that runs 3 seperate DTS packages.
The first step imports a file and runs successfully.
The second step which is the 2nd DTS package is hanging in the execute mode until I manually stop the job. Apparently,We discovered a bulk insert that is blocking a select statement--both proccesses are within this second DTS package. I tried using the WITH (UNLOCK) on the tables but this DTS package is still failing.
Does anyone have any suggestion? It would be greatly appreciated.
Hi guys,
I am a new user for DB2.
In DB2 V8, i have a table with some no of columns.
table test
col1
col2
col3
col4
Now i want to issue a query like this.
select col1 from test with(NOLOCK) where col1 = <some value>
when i am executing this query on that time i am getting a error message like this...
SQL0158N The number of columns specified for "MT.TEST" is not the
same as the number of columns in the result table. SQLSTATE=42811
Anyone can help me???
i tried to find out.
I did the same thing with SQL server 2000.
I am not facing any problem there.
Thanks & Regards,
Muthu
Paul Randal,
There has been a discussion/debate going on this thread about the benefits and drawbacks of using the NOLOCK hint:
http://www.sqlteam.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=67294
It occurred to me that you might know more about this than any of us, or at least be able to point us to a white paper or knowledge base article that explains the subject in more detail. Any light you can shed on the subject would be a big help.
CODO ERGO SUM
is really helpful use "with (nolock)" sentence in selects??
100% useful?? disadvantages?
best regards
Joseph
Hello,
Does anyone know if you place NOLOCK after a view in a select statement, if the effects trickle down to the tables in the view? Or does one have to add NOLOCK to each table within the view?
Thanks
Hello !!
I'm using the sentence NOLOCK for selects, but I have many sentences, Is there any way to set a parameter in the DBMS, to use NOLOCK parameter by default ???? I mean, I don't like to lock any table for selects.
Is It possible ???? How to do It (step by step) ?
Thanks !!
Hey guys,
I came across a SQL statement, thought up by a developer, in which two views were joined with the NOLOCK hint:
SELECT v1.xxx, v2.yyy
FROM dbo.vw_SomeView v1 WITH (NOLOCK)
INNER JOIN dbo.vw_SomeOtherView WITH (NOLOCK) ON v1.id = v2.id
The views are not created the NOLOCK hint. So my question is: has the NOLOCK hint any effect here?
I've looked in the BOL and searched on the net but can't find anything on this particular topic.
Lex
PS. Personally I don't like to use views in JOINs. I've seen too many cases in which tables are joined twice just because they are part of both views. Further more I don't like the "random" use of NOLOCK because most people don't seem to understand the implications of it. But this is besides the point of my question ;)
I'm running a heavy SELECT query using WITH (NOLOCK). This still causes other processes trying to INSERT in one of the tables to get blocked.
I thought the locking hint would prevent from blocking other processes?
What will happen if I'm running a query with the NOLOCK hint but the SQL Server has run out of resources?
Thanks!
Hi,
I was sreading about NOLOCK that it could prevent deadlocks but could return data which is not committed yet.
1) Should we use NOLOCK with select statements
2) If the transaction isolation level is set appropriately (e.g. Serializable)in the component (for e.g COM+ component) but NOLOCK is specified in the select then would it return uncommitted data. I mean if the transaction is controlled at hihger level then what will be the Pros and Cons of using NOLOCK.
Thanks
What is the purpose of using WITH(NOLOCK)?
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select * from rubberstock_tbl_shoppingcarttemp
It dosent take datas from the table but
select * from rubberstock_tbl_shoppingcarttemp (nolock)
This querey takes the data from the table
what can i do to retrieve records through first query.I dont know what
is happening please explain and also dont know about nolock
Thanks in advance!
When the NOLOCK hint is included in a SELECT statement, no locks are taken when data is read. This gives a Dirty Read in a result set.
The data retrieved in the select statement may not be correct since some other process might have updated the data while it was taken in the select statement.
Now, Can I know what is the use of NOLOCK? In which way we can make efficient use of NOLOCK ???
Hi, I get an error when select * from a table with nolock....please help.
Cannot specify an index or locking hint for a remote data source
Hi,
I have never used NOLOCK, or ROWLOCK, or anything of that sort. It's something I thought was over my head when I first encountered it and as I am gaining a better grip on SQL I have decided I want to try and tackle it. Also, because I think its causing me some problems :)
I recently implemented a new query into my application.
The query below gets the COUNT(*) of certain tables. Some of these tables are tall (5 million plus rows)
The counts returned are not absolutely critical information, and we are not joining or doing any other transactions based on this data. I believe running these counts on these pretty active tables (selects,inserts) are possibly causing slowdowns ?
Would using NOLOCK be an appropriate situation for something like this ? I am looking for a performance increase hopefully, and hoping there isnt much of a downside? I'm also not sure what type of reliability to expect from NOLOCK.
Any help much appreciated !!
Thanks once again
mike123
create PROCEDURE [dbo].[select_UserStats_Admin_TEST]
(
@userID int
)
AS SET NOCOUNT ON
DECLARE @Mail_Sent INT, @Mail_Received INT, @Comments_Sent INT, @Comments_Received INT,
@friendsListCount INT
SELECT @Mail_Sent = count(*) FROM tblMessage WHERE messageFrom = @userID
SELECT @Mail_Received = count(*) FROM tblMessage WHERE messageTo = @userID
SELECT @Comments_Sent = count(*) FROM tblComment WHERE CommentFromID = @userID
SELECT @Comments_Received = count(*) FROM tblComment WHERE CommentTo = @userID
SELECT @friendsListCount = count(*) FROM tblFriends WHERE userID = @userID
SELECT @Mail_Sent as Mail_Sent, @Mail_Received as Mail_Received, @Comments_Sent as Comments_Sent,
@Comments_Received as Comments_Received, @friendsListCount as friendsListCount
Hi,Is there a way to catch every select comming to sql and change it toselect with nolock?or how to make database READ UNCOMMITTED permanent?any ideas?Richard
View 3 Replies View RelatedI am getting lot of deadlocks in my application. As it is very complexti avoid deadlocks at this stage of application we have done few stepsto lessen the impact.We have added retries after deadlock is capturted.We have added select * from TABLE with (nolock) wherever possible.But interestingly second step is not working. I have few simple selectstatements where i am using nolock criteria still I am gettingdeadlock victim error. Any idead why it happening. I thought as soonas I put nolock in the query it will ignore all the locks.My sp isCREATE procedure sp_Check_denomination@supply_till_idint,@product_codechar(4),@iso_currency_codechar(3),@denominationmoneyasdeclare @product_id numeric(5)select @product_id = product_id from product with (nolock) whereproduct_code = @product_codeif exists (select *from transaction_inventory TI with (nolock),product_ccy_denom PCD with (nolock)where TI.supply_till_id = @supply_till_idand TI.product_id = @product_idand TI.iso_currency_code= @iso_currency_codeand TI.denomination = @denominationand TI.product_id = PCD.product_idand TI.iso_currency_code = PCD.iso_currency_codeand TI.denomination = PCD.denominationand PCD.product_id=@product_idand PCD.denomination = @denominationand PCD.iso_currency_code=@iso_currency_codeand PCD.tradeable = 1)beginreturn(1)endelsebeginreturn(0)endGO
View 1 Replies View RelatedBackground:I am currently working on a mission critical web based applicationthat is accessed 24 hours a day by users from just about every timezone. We use MS SQL Server as our database and we have lots ofproblems with time-outs. We used to have lots of problems with locksuntil my management decided that we would use the WITH (NOLOCK) hinton EVERY select statement and WITH (ROWLOCK) on EVERY updatestatement. I have argued since the beginning that the NOLOCK hintshould be the exception and not the rule. Meanwhile we continue tohave problems related to time-outs.Problem:I'm the one that they call when there are time-out errors.I am a programmer first and a DBA when I have to be. I'd really liketo hear from some of you who are the opposite. I realize that thereare many factors that contribute to slow response from a databaseserver (indexes, RAM, disk speed, etc.), but what I really need tohear from an expert is whether or not using NOLOCK on **EVERY** queryin a 30GB database that has 344 tables is a bad idea.Thanks in advance,Stephen McMahonJoin Bytes!
View 2 Replies View RelatedIs the NOLOCK optimizer hint being deprecated? Or does this apply only to use of NOLOCK in UPDATE and DELETE statements or what exactly?
I can see that in this article that there are circumstances in which the hint is deprecated; however, I have developers that are acting like NOLOCK is about to be dropped entirely. As far as I know, that is not the case but I would definitely like some feedback on this.
I have been experiencing deadlock errors with two stored procs that I am using.
SP1 is a read query that gets all unprocessed orders (status = 0)
SP2 is an insert query that inserts new orders (Status = 0) uses a transaction.
I have a multithreaded application and once in a while the read query (SP1) will try to read a new row that has just been inserted but not committed yet hence the deadlock arises.
If i use a hint "With(NoLocks)" this will be a dirty read and still read the uncommitted insert from SP2 - is this correct?
Where as if I use hint "With(ReadPast)" this will now only read committed rows and hence the deadlock should not arise - it will not read any uncommitted rows - Correct?
So I think that it is better to use READPAST than NOLOCK. Any orders that have status = 0 not picked up will get picked up on the next round when SP1 is executed again.
Any thougths or suggestions are always appreciated.
Jawahar
Hi all
If i have a view:
CREATE VIEW vw_Users
AS
SELECT * FROM Users WITH(NOLOCK)
Is it suggested to use nolock in views?
And if i needed to use this view in stored procs is it then suggested to apply the nolock hint?
CREATE PROC [dbo] .[usp_GetCompanyUsers]
AS
SELECT * FROM Companies WITH(NOLOCK) JOIN
vw_Users WITH(NOLOCK) --<< ---is this suggested?
Is it possible to use With (NOLOCK) and With (READPAST) in the sameSELECT query and what whould be the syntax?@param intSELECTmyRowFROMdbo.myTable WITH (NOLOCK)WHEREmyRow = @paramThanks,lq
View 6 Replies View RelatedI have a Store Procedure on a Sql Server 2000 Where I use the Table Hint"NoLock" on all selects.One of my clients (OleDbConnection from C#) doesn't get the same Result Setas the others. The result Set should have 31 rows but this client only gets5!When I remove all the "NoLocks" everything works fine. How can that be?
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[Microsoft][SQL Native Client][SQL Server]Could not continue scan with NOLOCK due to data movement
Thanks,
Hi!
when WITH (NOLOCK) statement is used in a select statement, it allows to retrieved data from a set of data locked by another transaction. Is it possible to enforce this at connection level?
I mean to open a connection using sqlclient and enforce NOLOCK so that all select statements post to database using that connection are not locked by other transactions.
thanks in advance
I have read lots of article about with nolock, and have seen many projects using with nolock option.
Please advice me if i am right.
1.Normal select queries can use with no lock
2. Batch jobs should not use with no lock.
please guide me, am i right.
Thanks
Hi All,
Just out of Curiosity, is there any difference between NoLock and ReadUncommitted? From my knowledge there is no differenece. But I am not sure.
I have an SSIS package that unpivots data - each row from the source becomes 20-24 rows in the destination db. In the dataflow it looks up some type-data IDs before inserting into the destination table. The whole process flies through the data at an incredible rate, however I find that the final commit on data insertion takes a very long time, and two of the lookup tasks remain yellow throughout. It appears that there may be a contention issue because the final table has FKs to those lookup tables.
In T-SQL it is possible to do SELECT..... WITH (NOLOCK), but when I modified the SQL statement of the lookup task by adding this clause, it caused an error "Incorrect syntax near the keywork 'with'."
Is there any way around this problem? THNX!
PhilSky
Back in the days of SQL 7.0 I used a lot of ODBC SELECT querying form VB applications, in which I implemented NOLOCK in order to prevent the primary business applications from being locked out of tables once the queries were run.
Now, quite a few years later, I'm busying myself converting a lot of old Access based forms and queries to TSQL on SQL-Server 2000, and wonder aimlessly why NOLOCK queries (simple select ones) are imensely slower than a standars select clause.
SELECT * FROM employees
This would be much much faster than the code below, but users would get "The current record could not be accessed, as it is being used by another user", evidently because I'm locking the record while producing the output.
SELECT * FROM employees (nolock)
So this could should - as I remember it - do a dirty read on table, not obstructing other users and give me a snapshot of date as they are, although they might be locked for edit.
Could anyone explain to me why the nOLOCK query fials to give me any output? It is as if the nolock request is waiting for the table/records to free? In which case I'll never be able to run a query.
Cheers in advance, Trin