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Thanks in advanace for taking the time to read this post.
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Namwar
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DECLARE

@cmdstr as nvarchar(1000),

@Msg AS varchar(1000)



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BEGIN

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PackageStart,CHNBSLSQL2K3,NT AUTHORITYSYSTEM,pkgExtract,{93BE582E-EDDD-4EBD-97A4-8A2E39E839A9},{605B2ED1-D794-4455-BD9E-F32D4CFF1196},9/18/2006 8:43:40 PM,9/18/2006 8:43:40 PM,0,0x,Beginning of package execution.

OnError,,,pkgExtract,,,9/18/2006 8:43:43 PM,9/18/2006 8:43:43 PM,-1071636466,0x,Cannot open the datafile "\Chnbslsql2k3shareRawCPSExtract.dat".

PackageEnd,CHNBSLSQL2K3,NT AUTHORITYSYSTEM,pkgExtract,{93BE582E-EDDD-4EBD-97A4-8A2E39E839A9},{605B2ED1-D794-4455-BD9E-F32D4CFF1196},9/18/2006 8:43:48 PM,9/18/2006 8:43:48 PM,1,0x,End of package execution.

æ¥†æ•¬ä° æ…¯æ•¤?¤ç¥¢ä¬ 浵牡湡€ à¨?





This is a issue which i am struggling and looking on..Please help me out with some gud

solutions.



Thanks

Kumaran





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Anup

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