Flat File With Fixed Length Header And No Delimeter
Aug 21, 2006
Hi,
I'm trying to extract data from a Flat File which is as fixed length as they come. The file has a header, which simply contains the number of records in the file, followed by the records, with no header delimeter (No CR/LF, nothing).
For example a file would look like the following:
00000003Name1Address1Name2Address2Name3Address3
So this has 3 records (indicated by the first 8 characters), each consisting of a Name and Address.
I can't see a way to extract the data using a flat file connection, unless we add a delimeter for the header (not possible at this stage). Am I wrong?
Any suggestions on possible solution would be much appreciated - I'm thinking Ill have to write a script to parse the file manually.
Thanks in advance,
Scott
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Dec 8, 2006
When I use SQL 2000 DTS Export to create a fixed length flat file, the data rows are delimited by carriage return-line. Which means that when I open the flat file in a text editor like UltraEdit or WordPad, the data rows are broken out nicely (row ends at the max row length position and new row starts at position 0).
But when I use SSIS to create the file, the whole file is displayed as one line in WordPad. The data rows don't end at the max row lenght position in ultraEdit neither. From Flat File Connection Manager's Preview page, I can see the data rows are displayed properly.
Now I wonder if the flat file destination is a true fixed length file.
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Jun 21, 2007
Hi-I have a sql database (2005) that I need to extract a report from that looks somehintg like SELECT * From Empl_Hours WHERE some_flag <> 'true' .The thing works fine, but the problem is this: I need to insert a record in the 1st row that looks like "Static_text"+row_count() +"more_static_text"where row_count is the actual # of rows that were retrieved. Thanks in advance for any help.DAn
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Jan 2, 2008
Hey All,
Similar to a previous post (http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=244646&SiteID=1), I am trying to import data into a SQL Table.
I am trying to program a small application that will import product data obtained through suppliers via CD-ROM. One supplier in particular uses Fixed width colums, and data looks like this:
Example of Data
0124015Apple Crate 32.12
0124016Bananna Box 12.56
0124017Mango Carton 15.98
0124018Seedless Watermelon 42.98
My Table would then have:
ProductID as int
Name as text
Cost as money
How would I go about extracting the data with an XML Format file? I am stumbling over how to tell it where to start picking up data for a specific column.
Is there any way that I could trim the Name column (i.e.: "Mango Carton " --> "Mango Carton")?
I don't know if it makes any difference, but I've been calling SQL from my code by doing this:
Code in C# Form
SqlConnection SqlConnection = new SqlConnection(global::SQLClients.Properties.Settings.Default.ClientPhonebookConnectionString);
SqlCommand cmd = new SqlCommand();
cmd.CommandType = CommandType.Text;
cmd.CommandText = "INSERT INTO PhonebookTable(Name, PhoneNumber) VALUES('" + txtName.Text.ToString() + "', '" + txtPhoneNumber.Text.ToString() + "')";
cmd.Connection = SqlConnection;
SqlConnection.Open();
cmd.ExecuteNonQuery();
SqlConnection.Close();
RefreshData();
I am running Visual Studio C# Express 2005 and SQL Server Express 2005.
Thanks for your time,
Hayden.
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Feb 5, 2008
I need to write data into a fixed column length file and was wondering the best (most efficient) way to tackle this. For example, the first few pieces of the report I'm working on now would be:
PacketID - Starting position 1, Field length 9
TransactionID - Starting position 10, Field length 9
Group number - Starting position 19, field length 10
PID/SSN - Starting position 29, field length 10
For the PID/SSN, if I have a PID it'll be 10 digits and fill the field length, if I don't I use SSN which is only 9 digits and enter a space as the 10th digit. Obviously if I don't have certain pieces of information I'll just need spaces of the specified length to satisfy the file format. I'm using SQL 2005. Thanks in advance for any help provided.
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Sep 23, 2014
I have approximately 13 columns. Each Column has a start position and end position.. I created this in a table and defined the position, it's still not working for me.
FiceCode char(6), -- starting position 1, field length 6
StateStudID char(10), -- starting position 7, field length 10
CampusStudID char(10), -- starting position 17, field length 10
LastName char(25), -- starting position 27, field length 25
[Code] .....
I need a text output file that will define each start position.I also used: right(replicate('0',25) + cast(last_name as char(25)), 25) in my sql statement.when I add the first_name, I can't get it to start in position 52.
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Feb 15, 2006
I have a fixed-length flat file that contains about 30 columns. I have got it pretty well figured out using the flat file connection tool, but I am having trouble with the end of the line.
I know when I look at the file it is a CrLf that separates the rows, and SSIS only seems to understand this to a certain extent. It knows to go to the next line, but it also adds two rectangles to the lines, like this:
Col1 Col2 Col3 Col4 Col5
aaaaaa bbbbb ccccc ddddd eeeee
[][]aaaaa bbbbb ccccc ddddd eee
ee[][]aaaaa bbbbb ccccc ddddd e
eeee[][]aaaaa bbbbb ccccc ddddd
While this does create a cool pattern, it is a pain in the butt. The only solution I have found is adding two more spaces to the last column in the table, but the ?s just get appended there.
If anybody has any clue how to get rid of them, that would be great.
Thanks in advance
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Apr 16, 2001
Hi, Does anybody know how to import a fixed field length ASCII text file which is 370 bytes into a SQL Table by DTS?
Thnaks,
Mano
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Apr 21, 2003
Will be getting new file for download from vendor to process in future. When I use DTS or Import wizard in sql server I get "could not find the selected row delimiter within the first 8kb of data, is the selected delimited valid? This is for a fixed length file. If I answer yes and continue everything is fine, until I get to the end of the record which it can't find. It basically lumps the records together. What is interesting, that if I import the same file in Access 2000, I don't get this problem. ANyone seen this before? Could not find anything on MSDN
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Jul 20, 2004
Hi,
I am trying to upload a fixed field text file to a sqlserver table using the DTS wizard. The txt file has 111 columns and the total length of a single row is 5897. The problem is when I use the wizard to specify the starting and ending of each column, its not allowing me to specify the columns beyond the position 4095.
Is there a limitation on this? if so is there a work around ? to solve this.
Any help on this is truly appreciated.
Thanks much. :)
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Jan 10, 2007
I'm trying to do an insert using Bulk Insert with a fixed length file.I'm using a format file.I'm getting the following error message:Cannot perform bulk insert. Invalid collation name for source column 16in format file '\wbhq.comdfsdviDataIntGOPFilesGOPFormatFile. txt'.Any suggestions are appreciated.Thanks!JenniferFormat File Contents:8.0161SQLCHAR02""0Space""2SQLCHAR04""1YearID""3SQLCHAR02""0Space""4SQLCHAR02""2PeriodID""5SQLCHAR02""3CompanyID""6SQLCHAR01""0Dash""7SQLCHAR04""0Space""8SQLCHAR01""0Dash""9SQLCHAR04""4UnitID""10SQLCHAR01""0Dash""11SQLCHAR04""5AccountCode""12SQLCHAR05""0Space""13SQLCHAR01""6AccountType""14SQLCHAR029""0Space""15SQLCHAR016""7GLAmount""16SQLCHAR0105"
"0Space""Bulk Insert Statement:BULK INSERT FlatFile_GOPFROM '\wbhq.comdfsdviDataIntGOPFilesGLPAM.GOP'WITH(FORMATFILE ='\wbhq.comdfsdviDataIntGOPFilesGOPFormatFile. txt')Table Definition:CREATE TABLE [dbo].[FlatFile_GOP] ([YearID] [smallint] NOT NULL ,[PeriodID] [smallint] NOT NULL ,[CompanyID] [smallint] NOT NULL ,[UnitID] [smallint] NOT NULL ,[AccountCode] [int] NOT NULL ,[AccountType] [char] (1) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NOT NULL,[GLBalance] [money] NOT NULL) ON [PRIMARY]GOFile Contents:2007 210- -0002-3000 G196395.102007 210- -0002-3700 B1484.002007 210- -0002-3700 G1571.132007 210- -0002-3800 B157457.002007 210- -0002-3800 G161577.73
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Mar 3, 2006
I have a requirement to import a file of rows containing fixed length data. The problem is that each row can be one of 5 different formats (i.e. different columns) -- where the "type" of row is indicated by the first two characters of the row. Each row gets inserted into its own table.
Could I use a simple Conditional Split to route the rows? Or is the split for routing similiar rows? Anyways, problems are never this simple...
In addition, each "grouping" of rows is related. The "first" row is considered the "primary" row (and gets a row id via IDENTITY, whereas the remaining rows in the group are "secondary" rows and have foreign key references back the the primary rows id.
Given (using spaces to separate columns and CrLf to show "grouping"):
01 MSFT blah blah
02 blahblah blahblahblah
03 boring boringblah
01 AAPL blah blah
02 blahblah blahblahblah
03 boring boringblah
01 CSCO blah blah
02 blahblah blahblahblah
02 blahblah blahblahblah
03 boring boringblah
So, the first 3 lines are all related to a MSFT record which needs to be spread across multiple tables. The next three lines are all related to AAPL, And the next FOUR lines (yes, each record can have zero, one, or more secondary rows) are related to CSCO.
(If this is still not clear, all the "01" rows will be written to [Table1] with each row having an IDENTITY value. All the "02" rows will be written to [Table2] the a FK pointing to the correct [Table1] row. All the "03" rows will be written to... and so on.
Any ideas would be appreciated.
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Dec 5, 2007
Hi,
I am trying to import a text file that has fixed length fields.
It also has column headers repeated in the file.
The text file is delimited by <CR><LF>.
Question 1
There are certain rows that end abruptly after a column for ex:
Row 1 <col1 data>.....<col2 data>.....<col3 data><CR><LF>
Row 2 <col1 data>.....<col2 data><CR><LF>
This seems to be throwing off the text file import as row 1 seems to be importing alright but row 2 gets ignored.
This not the behaviour I want. I want row 2 to also be imported and have a default of NULL for the columns that
are not specified.
Does anyone know how to achieve this?
Question 2
This is not that serious, but currently, I do not know of a way to ignore repeating column headers.
It would be nice if there was a way, but I can always resort to T-SQL based data cleaning after the import.
Thanks.
Shailen Sukul
|BSc|Mcsd.Net|Mcsd|Mcad|
Software Architect / Developer
Ashlen Consulting Services
http://www.ashlen.com.au
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Jul 16, 2004
Hi All,
I have a file that has fixed row size of 148 and fixed column size, but the file has no end of line character. I know it is wierd but a client has made the file and refuses to change the format. So I am stuck with reading it the way it is.
In Enterprise Manager, I used the Import/Export wizard and I specified fixed length and it let me specify 148 as the lenght of each line. Then it recognized the file and I was able to read it in.
I saved the DTS package and I can run it over and over again using dtsrun. However I want to do the same thing using Bulk Insert. How do you specify fixed row length for Bulk insert and how do you give it individual column lengths?
Thanks,
Shab
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May 11, 2008
Hi,
I would like to read from a Text File using SSIS Integration Package.
The file has a fixed number of columns, let's say 3 columns.
There is no row header and each columns length is fixed. There is no delimiter as well.
Here is the sample of the file contents:
John Doe USA
Mary Monroe UK
Andy Archibald Singapore
Here is the hints to read the file contents
123456789
0123456789
0123456789
==============================
John Doe USA
Mary Monroe UK
Andy Archibald Singapore
If you notice, from the 1st column until the 9th column, it's reserved for the first name.
The 10-th column until the 19th column, it's reserved for the last name. Finally the 20-th column until the 29th column is reserved for the Origin Country.
Since there's no delimiter inside the flat file contents, i have difficulty in parsing this text using SSIS Package.
Please let me know if you need any necessary information.
Thanks for all your help.
Regards,
Hadi Teo.
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Apr 18, 2008
what is the best way to import fixed length text file to sql server using SSIS?
I was trying to using text file source and ole db destination..but since the text file has no columns and have different length per column and per line( it show only one column becasue it all concatnated), I can not map it to destination column..
How can I import it?
Here is the example of text file ( fixed with row delimeter)that i need to import to different columns...
010000000000000000001164.00023 YV
02004101 1 2008-04-OLL 43456 0000000001 2008-04-08
030000100000000000000000000007.00
047890 7556 YYU 779
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Oct 6, 2004
I have a request from a vendor to export data out of my SQL Server 2K database view to a 'flat fixed file'.
What kind of file is this exactly, not a .csv ? Does EM have the capabilities through the DTS wizard, by choosing the output to a text file and fixed width ?
Thank you
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May 29, 2006
Currently we're working on an SSIS package to extract data from a SQL Server database to several fixed width flat files.
Some of the data needs to be formatted/converted in a certain way
DateTimes need to be formatted in ISO8601Booleans need to be 0/1 instead of False/True...Has anybody any idea what the preferred approach (best practice) would be to do these conversions?Convert everything in the select query? What about readability of your query?
Do it somewhere in the package? If so, how?....
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Feb 1, 2007
Hi,
There's a lot of information on importing data from text files, but not a lot on exporting data to text files... I've checked but found no info on this.
I'm trying to export data from SQL Server to a fixed-width flat file and wondering if I'm doing it the right way.
I use a view as source (using a OLEDB connection manager) and I can see the data without problem.
I defined a Flat File Destination (using a flat file connection manager). When setting up the flat file connection manager, I am asked for a file... Does this mean one should create manually a template file with the desired output format? So I used a production file as template since we're replacing an existing process.
After having set up everything, I run the SSIS only to see all the data on the same row. There are no CRLF...
When I create the file connection manager, there's no way to mention the row delimiter. In the properties I see a "Row Delimiter" field and when I try with "{CR}{LF}" it makes no difference. Interesting to note that, contrary to the HeaderRowDelimiter field, the RowDelimiter field has no drop-down control to give choices.
So I had to return the CRLF as the last field of the source view (SELECT .... ,'CRLF' = CHAR(13) + CHAR(10) FROM ...) to make it work.
Seems odd... Is it the way to go?
Thanks
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Apr 18, 2007
Hi,
I am trying to write to a fixed format flat file using Flat File Destination Data Flow Component. I have all required information gathered from more than one sources. But when I tried to format the columns to a big string that will make up one line in the flat file, I could not figure out how to do that. Couple of issues that I am facing are:
How to padd different columns? For example, One interger column has could be 1 to 10 character long in my case. When I convert to string, dont know how to padd the remaining characters i.e. if the value of integer is '1234', it should be written to file as '1234 ' . Which transformation is best in this case, if available?
How to convert T-SQL datetime to a specific date and time format to write in the flate file? I have to write these date formats depending upon one of the parameters passed.
Also, I dont want to put a delimiter at the end of each column, just the new line characters at the end of each record.
Some of the columns has some unwanted characters (like new line characters) how to find them and remove them from the string.
Can we directly write columns to a specific position in the flat file? e.g. col 1 a position 1 and col2 starts at postion 20 etc.
Your co-operation will be appreciated.
Thanks,
Paraclete
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Mar 13, 2006
How can I take this example Flat file and parse out each section to a new flat file? Each section starts with HD (header row)
http://www.webfound.net/flat_file_example.txt
e.g. an example output file based on above (cutting out the first section) would be:
http://www.webfound.net/flatfile_output.txt
Also, I'll need to grab a certain value in each header row (certain position in the 100 byte header row) to use that as part of the filename that's outputed. I assume it would be better to insert these rows into a temp table then somehow do a search on a specific position in the row...but that's impossible? The other route is to insert each row into a temp table separated out by fields but that is going to be too combursome because we have several formats to determine separation of fields based on the row type so I'd have to create many temp tables and many components in SSIS when all we want to do is again:
1) output each group (broken by each header row) into it's own txt file
2) use a field in the header row as part of the name of the output txt file (e.g. look at the first row, whcih is a header row in flat_file_example. txt. I want to grab the text 'AR10' and use that as part of the filename that I create
Any suggestions on how to approach this whole process in SSIS...the simplest approach that will work ?
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Dec 12, 2006
More SSIS woes. DTS was so much easier.
I have a flat file. It's fixed-with with CRLF record delimiters (a.k.a. Ragged Right format).
Some fields are null, and represented by the text NULL.
I'm trying to import the file into SQL via an OLE DB connection. The target table is a SQL 2000 data table. Two of the fields in the target database are of type smallint.
When I run PREVIEW on the data source (Flat File), everything looks good & correct. I added the convert columns task to convert my strings to smallint. This is where things go haywire.
After linking everything up, the conversion gives me a "Cannot convert because of a possible loss of data." All of my numbers are < 50, so I know this isn't the case. Another SSIS bogus error
My first instinct is the SSIS doesn't understand that NULL means null. I edited the file and replaced all instances of NULL with 4 emtpy string chars. Still no good. It seems to be having a hard time parsing the file now.
I dropped the convert task and tried editing the data source, and set the two smallint fields to smallint instead of string (SSIS formats). I get the same conversion error.
Changing the NULL values to 0 fixed the problem, but they're not 0. They're null.
Short of creating another script that converts all zeros to NULL using the aforementioned hack, I'm out of ideas.
I'm I missing something or is SSIS just incapable of handling nulls in fixed-width flat file formats?
TIA
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Aug 28, 2007
We're having issues exporting a set of data from SQL to a fixed width flat text file by just doing a right click on the DB, then choosing Tasks > Export Data. You can not specify a row delimiter when you choose a Fixed Width format. The only way around this that we've found is to specificy char(13) and char(10) at the end of the SQL select statement. Without row delimiters you end up with 1 giant record rather than 20,000 regular sized records. Is there any other way around this that we're missing?
Using Ragged Right is not an option either since the record lengths will be inconsistent if the last field doesn't contain a consistent length to the data.
Thanks,
Mike
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Sep 14, 2007
I have a text file that is comma delimited and im pulling it in with a flatfile connection manager. I want to read some of the data, then output another flat file but in a fixed column width. What settings do I made to the connection manager of the output flatfile ?
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Oct 19, 2007
I am new to SSIS and am having trouble with automatically setting up the destination output columns.
I am sure there must be an easy way to do this.
My table (source) has 86 columns in it of varying lenghts.
In my connection magagers, I have created one for the SQL Server (source data) and one for the flat file (destination output).
I have also created an OLE DB source data object and a destination Flat File object and set them up to the respective connection managers.
Finally I have linked the source to the destination.
Now when I look at the source, it shows me all 86 columns.
When I open up destination, there are no columns set up.
Problem: do I have to type in all the columns manually in the connection manager for the Flat File?
I would think there would be some automatic way that it would self-populate the columns over to the flat file destination.
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Dec 7, 2006
I am sorry, I am posting this message again, since I did not get anyreply.I want to export a table into a "fixed width" file using SQL 2005import export wizard.This is the version I have:SQL Server 2005 - 9.00.2047.00For some reason it joins all the rows together. For EX: if the tableis like this:Create table Mytable (col1 varchar(50) null, col2 varchar(60) null,col3 varchar (100) Null)Insert into MyTable values ("abcdef", "12345", "8900")Insert into MyTable values ("xxxxxxx", "11111111", "22222222")Insert into MyTable values ("yyyyyyyyy", "5555555555555555","6666666666")Insert into MyTable values ("abcdef", "12345", "8900")Insert into MyTable values ("xxxxxxx", "11111111", "22222222")Insert into MyTable values ("yyyyyyyyy", "5555555555555555","6666666666")It is not exporting every row in a single line. Actually if I open itin "Ultra Edit", it is all in one line.I used to do this regularly with SQL 2000 import export wizard and itexported every row in one line.I looked at the setting:The header row delimiter has {CR}{LF}Code page has 1252 Ansi-Latin.In the Advanced tab:String:dt_str.I tried changing the header row delimiter to just {CR} or just {LF}.Also I tried changing the string to dt_text and nothing seems to help.Please help.Thank you
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May 19, 2008
Hi All,
I have a simple SSIS package that runs a query on the db and outputs a fixed width flat file. I have all my column widths defined and in the connection manager i can preview the output. Everything looks great. All the fields fall where they should and each record is on it's own line.
When i run the SSIS program and then go open my text file with a text editor the ouput is all on the same line. I have tried changing my file format from fixed width to ragging right and adding a row delimiter but that doesn't work either. I feel like i'm missing something small here. It could even be an issue w/ my text editor (although i've tried to open the text file in multiple editors). In the flat file connection manager I have my file defined to be 187 characters long, So figure every 187 characters it should output a new line (it should add the carraige return right?).
Has anyone encountered an issue like this?
Any help would be much appreciated.
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Jul 4, 2007
hi everyone!
i am currently creating a package which involves getting data from CSV files. i can successfully get the data from the files, my problem is, i need to get data from the header of the CSV files. i am currently skipping the header rows. the format of the CSV files is as follows:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Date, 20070704
Store Code, storeCode1
data row.....
data row.....
data row.....
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
technically, i also need the date from the header row, but since it is also indicated in the data rows, i have no problem with that. what i need is the Store Code, which is not indicated on the data rows. i need to store the data in a database in the following format:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
StoreCode Date column1 column2 column3 ......
storeCode1 20070704 ...
storeCode2 20070704 ...
storeCode3 20070704 ...
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
any idea how SSIS can handle this? thanks a lot!
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Mar 12, 2008
Hi All,
Any one could help me like how to port the data into the SQL Server Database if i have the below sample data in flat file.
2 300 1 3 5058045 09999XX999999999 01/10/200801/18/200840477
3 300 5058045 66 20080118232724
4 300 5058045 03000000235 20080118232724
4 300 5058045 03000000322 20080118232724
4 300 5058045 03000000335 20080118232724
Basically, Marked Red record stands for Transaction Header, Marked Green records are Transaction Detail 1 and Marked Blue records stands for another Transaction Detail 2.
Now I need to move the data, based on the Record Type ( First Column 2,3,4) If its RecTyp 2 then move into Tran Header table, when RecType 3 then move into Tran Det1 table and finally, when RecType 4 then move into Tran Det2 table.
Anyone could guide how to start this migration.
Note: The given sample is the one set of data in that flat file. Similarly in the same flatfile we have multiple set of data.
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Oct 12, 2007
Hi,
I am reading a flat file in to SSIS. In the script, I want to process differently depending on the length of the row. However, since I am new to .net, I can't figure out the syntax to find the length of the row.
Can anyone tell me the syntax?
Thanks,
Linda
Public Overrides Sub Input0_ProcessInputRow(ByVal Row As Input0Buffer)
'Dim d As Double
If Row.MemberSourceLine.ToString.Length.Equals(267) Then <-- my latest try, but it does not work....
Row.WholesalerCode = Row.MemberSourceLine.ToString.Substring(1, 5)
Row.UPCNumber = Row.MemberSourceLine.ToString.Substring(34, 12)
'Row.SKUNumber = Row.MemberSourceLine.ToString.Substring(6, 14)
End If
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May 14, 2007
I can't use DTS nor DTSwizard as I need to put it in a .sql and run it through a command line via .bat file (it's more for the users).
Each row ends with an EOL character, the fields are all fixed width, but I have a little problem here, some rows are empty but just with a EOL character.
How shall I go about it?
many thanks! :D
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May 29, 2006
Dear fellows,
I know that I think as sql2k programmer-dba yet but I can€™t avoid.
I€™ve got Flat File Connection Manager Editor dragged with a text file as €˜ragged right€™ format and CRLF as header row limiter. When from properties page and Columns option I€™m going to alter just a few colums I am not be able.
It seems that you must erase all of them in order to define one or two. And in the case you€™d have 50????
When I ran sql2k DTS designer did that without problems, alter columns again and again.
As far as I know it€™s a lose of flexibility, or not? Or is there any way for do that without deleting nothing else?
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