Full Backups, Correct Approach?

Mar 21, 2008



I am running a full backup quarterly using "with init" to overwrite the existing file if it is still on the server. Then I run a differential back weekly using "with init". Finally I run a transaction log backup nightly using "with init".

My question is should I be using "with init" for the transaction log backup or allow it to accumulate until the next differential backup?

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Hi,

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public override DTSExecResult Execute(Connections connections, VariableDispenser variableDispenser,IDTSComponentEvents componentEvents, IDTSLogging log, object transaction)
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Status = "[RandomColName1] Access Denied | [RandomColName3] = "ID10T Error at Kbrd"



Example Row 2:

RandomColName1 = "0||OK"

RandomColName2 = "0||OK"

RandomColName3 = "0||OK"

Status = "0||OK"



The rules:

1. There is no chance of someone updating the same column at the same time.

2. There's a good chance that other columns in the same row will be updated at the same time.

3. Sometimes a column can be updated every 5 secs.

4. About 100 to 5000 Rows



I'm a SQL newb and this would be my first trigger to write (lol) but I feel if it could be done without causing a DEADLOCK then it should be done this way. Unless someone with more experience can shed some light



With up to 300 .net clients over fast and slow links, I don't want to xfer the whole 5000 row / 50 column table back to the app and have it weed it out, especially if the client only needs 100 of the rows. On the same token, I don't want to make an individual call back to the SQL server should the client need 4000 rows.
Thanks for the help!

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