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Feb 7, 2002

I am working with a large database that has its tables stored on a secondary filegroup. I'm trying to shrink the size of the files but I can't seem to get the system to free up the unused space. I've tried shrinkdatabase and shrinkfile both with and without the truncateonly option. Has anyone else had this problem? Is there a workaround? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.
Cathy

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