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Jun 1, 2007

Hello,
I have a transformation in which the column of data at the flat file source is nine characters long, and typically contains a string of six or seven zeros with a non-zero number in the last two or three characters. If none of the records in that column were an empty string, I think I could get away with this:

DTSDestination("TTLCrd") = CInt(DTSSource("Col004"))

The destination is a SQL Server 2000 table, and the column is of type Integer. What do I do when Col004 is an empty string? I've tried a couple of different IF statements, but they have not worked. Empty strings need to become zero values.

Thank you for your help.

cdun2

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Well met,

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Truncate Table [SecurityEvents_Temp]

Insert Into SecurityEvents_Temp (
[BankNumber],
[UserName],
[DomainName],
[EventLog],
[RecordNumber],
[TimeGenerated],
[TimeWritten],
[EventID],
[EventType],
[EventTypeName],
[EventCategory],
[EventCategoryName],
[SourceName],
[Strings],
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[SID],
[Message],
[Data]
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Query Output:
quote:
Server: Msg 170, Level 15, State 1, Line 28
Line 28: Incorrect syntax near 'Strings'.
Server: Msg 170, Level 15, State 1, Line 30
Line 30: Incorrect syntax near 'Strings'.



Thank You,

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