Help: How Do I Change Database Within An Opened Cursor Block??
Dec 4, 2007
Hi All:
Can anyone point out what's wrong with the following script? I wanted to print all the LOGFILE names in all databases which are not in SIMPLE recovery model. Thanks in advance.
Jim
USE masterDECLARE @db_name nvarchar(100), @log_name nvarchar(100);DECLARE DB_Cursor CURSOR FORselect name from msdb.sys.databases where recovery_model_desc <> 'SIMPLE';OPEN DB_Cursor FETCH NEXT FROM DB_Cursor INTO @db_name WHILE @@FETCH_STATUS = 0 BEGIN USE @db_name -- Can I do this? GO select @log_name = name from sys.database_files where type_desc ='LOG'; print @log_name; ENDCLOSE DB_CursorDEALLOCATE DB_CursorI got the following error:Msg 102, Level 15, State 1, Line 13Incorrect syntax near '@db_name'.Msg 137, Level 15, State 1, Line 1Must declare the scalar variable "@log_name".Msg 137, Level 15, State 2, Line 2Must declare the scalar variable "@log_name".
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Sep 12, 2006
Using SQL native client from VFP 9.0 to SQL Server 2005 64 bit SP1 (happened before SP1 too)..
We have a stored procedure that returns 6 result sets. This SP uses 2 cursors. It is rather lengthy - I'll post the code if needed.
This SP works fine when called from VFP 99 percent of the time. Normally takes 2 to 3 secunds to execute.
Once in a while we will get a return from SQL ..
"OLE IDispatch exception code 0 from Microsoft SQL Native Client: A server cursor cannot be opened on the given statement or statements. Use a default result set or client cursor..."
The OLE error code is 1429. An OLE Exception code 3604 is also returned.
When this happens the SP will return the same error when executed for the same parameters over and over when called from VFP. When called directly from SQL management console it will normally work for the same parameters, although once in a while it will just hang (and not timeout apparently). In that case it will also hang from SQLCMD command line utility as well.
Wait a few hours and the SP will run fine for the same parameters in VFP. This happens even in the middle of the night when there is no possibility that data is being changed.
Here's the really fun part...
Open the SP source for modification (ALTER PROCEDURE) in management console and execute it (no changes at all, just let it recompile). Immediately it will work fine when called with the same parameters called from VFP or anywhere else (even if it was one of the rare instances where it hung in management console). This works EVERY TIME.
Sooo... I edited and executed the SP with the WITH RECOMPILE option assuming that that should do the trick (same as alter procedure/executing from management console right?). NOPE. Same problems. In order to work around the problem when the error occurs, I HAVE TO alter procedure and execute the code from management console.
Help??
Bill Kuhn - MCSE
The Kuhn Group, Inc.
http://www.kuhngroup.com
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Oct 25, 2007
hi there,
to retrieve more then one record with a cursor we can use block cursor, so we have to set the cursor attribute SQL_ATTR_ROWSET_SIZE to some number...i am not getting any code example on this.
do anyone know this???
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Aug 21, 2015
I like to backup the stored procedures' code used in my databases. So I created this Script:
/*
IF OBJECT_ID('[Monitor].[dbo].[Procedurecode]') IS NOT NULL DROP TABLE [Monitor].[dbo].[Procedurecode];
*/
DECLARE
@db nvarchar(50),
@strSQL nvarchar (100)
IF CURSOR_STATUS('global','cur1')>=-1 BEGIN DEALLOCATE cur1 END
[code]....
Problem is (and I seem not to be the only one with tis) described here:
"If the executed string contains a USE statement that changes the database context, the change to the database context only lasts until sp_executesql or the EXECUTE statement has finished running." There is nothing magical in SQL server that knows you intend a series of dynamic sql commands to be part of a single job running in a single context. You have to build the entire string for the job you want to execute."
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So I only get the SPs of the current database.
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Jan 26, 2005
Forgive me if this is a stupid question.
How do you use a Server Side block cursor?
Lets say I have a db of 250,000 items and I want to retrieve the data 100 rows at a time.
How would I do this (using a block cursor, not in general)
thanks,
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Jul 30, 2015
I have a report that no matter what I do the report always comes out this way. I have been trying to get the report to look blocked not stepped.
I have tried grouping on just row/column or both.
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Jun 21, 2007
I'am doing functionality test on DTS packages and saving my DTS packages to meta data services instead of saving them as local packages. We would like to see what information would be provided by saving them this way, but when we try to open the meta data browser (the 3rd icon under DTS) we get the following error:
An error occurred while trying to access the database information. The msdb database could not be opened.
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Feb 7, 2012
I'm working on a SQL Server 2005 mirroring database test.The idea is to stop main DB server and activate the standby being mirrored (pretendng that principal DB Server is down)
Mirror works fine.
But for the test I do the following:
- Stop the principal SQLSERVER
- Connect to the standby server and execute the followng:
sqlcmd -S <IP> -d master -U opmirror -P xxxxx -Q "ALTER DATABASE DB_NAME SET PARTNER FORCE_SERVICE_ALLOW_DATA_LOSS;"
And it returns this error:
"Database 'DB_NAME' cannot be opened. It is in the middle of a restore"
Why can't the standby database be opened?
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Apr 1, 2007
i have curputed mdf and ldf file for ms sql 2005
i have tried to put the db in standby mode and when i try to run dbcc checkdb or any other command i get this message
Database 'dbname' cannot be opened because its version (611) is later than the current server version (539).
but without standby mode i get this error
TITLE: Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio
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Failed to retrieve data for this request. (Microsoft.SqlServer.SmoEnum)
For help, click: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink?ProdName=Microsoft+SQL+Server&LinkId=20476
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ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:
Could not find row in sysindexes for database ID 40, object ID 1, index ID 1. Run DBCC CHECKTABLE on sysindexes. (Microsoft SQL Server, Error: 602)
For help, click: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink?ProdName=Microsoft+SQL+Server&EvtSrc=MSSQLServer&EvtID=602&LinkId=20476
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BUTTONS:
OK
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Jun 12, 2006
Hello,Could you explain me please the following error:"Database 'DemoDotNET' cannot be opened due to inaccessible files orinsufficient memory or disk space. (Microsoft SQL Server, Error: 945)"I have checked: free disk space is large enough, I have much enoughmemory, other files in the directory are accessible.Here is tail of ERRORLOG:2006-06-12 21:19:55.68 Logon Error: 18456, Severity: 14, State:16.2006-06-12 21:19:55.68 Logon Login failed for user 'PCRobert'.[CLIENT: <local machine>]2006-06-12 21:20:43.39 Server Server resumed execution afterbeing idle 1 seconds: user activity awakened the server. This is aninformational message only. No user action is required.Please help to solve this.Thank you./RAM/
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Jun 6, 2006
Anyone help?
I opened SQL Server management studio and tried to connect with the local database and received the error message:
Database 'msdb' cannot be opened. It has been marked suspect.....
I have pasted the only error from the event log I could find below, but it doesn't mean much to me.
In the event I can't find what the problem is, and not being a database administrator, can anyone tell me what I can do to get back in working order without messing up all the databases in my SQL Server 2005. I'm afraid I only have a MASTER backup from several months ago, and am afraid if I use this, I will loose the latest data. I'm a novice, and do not understand the relationship of the master/msdb/model databases to my core custom databases. Can I do some sort of master rebuild without affecting the other databases I have?
I have tried sp_resetstatus but this didn't fix the problem, but it did enable me to actually connect to the SQL server instance so I could access all the other databases.
Many thanks
Gerard
Event log error detail:
The log scan number (152:284:1) passed to log scan in database 'msdb' is not valid. This error may indicate data corruption or that the log file (.ldf) does not match the data file (.mdf). If this error occurred during replication, re-create the publication. Otherwise, restore from backup if the problem results in a failure during startup.
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Dec 3, 2014
I have the following stored procedure to test scope of variables
alter proc updatePrereq
@pcntr int,
@pmax int
as
begin
[Code] ....
In the above script @i is declare in the if block only when the @pcntr value is 1. Assume the above stored procedure is called 5 times from this script
declare @z int
set @z = 1
declare @max int
set @max = 5
while @z <= @max
begin
exec dbo.updatePrereq @z, @max
set @z = @z + 1
end
go
As i said earlier `@i` variable exists only when `@pcntr` is `1`. Therefore when i call the stored procedure for the second time and so forth the control cannot enter the if block therefore @i variable wouldn't even exist. But the script prints the value in `@i` in each iteration, How comes this is possible should it throw an error saying `@i` variable does not exist when `@pcntr` values is greater than `1`?
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The query did not run, or the database table could not be opened.Check the database server or contact your database administrator. Make sure the external database is available and hasn't been moved or reorganized, then try the operation again.I have access to the database where the view is saved and the database that the TSQL calls.
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Greetings, I have just arrived back into the country (NZ) and back into ASP.NET.
I am having trouble with the following:An attempt to attach an auto-named database for file (file location).../Database.mdf failed. A database with the same name exists, or specified file cannot be opened, or it is located on UNC share.
It has only begun since i decided i wanted to use IIS, I realise VWD comes with its own localhost, but since it is only temporary, i wanted a permanent shortcut on my desktop to link to my intranet page.
Anyone have any ideas why i am getting the above error? have searched many places on the internet and not getting any closer.
Cheers ~ J
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Hello everyone,
I have been playing with a Standard Version of VS 2005 and SSE 2005 and I just cannot get these two to interact together well. I am sure it is a noob problem but I have seen this error addressed on this forum and I am just not getting it. Here is exactly what I am doing.
I want to create a database within SSE using the Management Studio. Then, I want to connect to it with VS2005. Both SSE and VS2005 are local. I just cant seem to get this to work.
I always seem to get this error "An attempt to attach an auto-named database for file C:Program FilesMicrosoft SQL ServerMSSQL.1MSSQLDataSecond.mdf failed. A database with the same name exists, or specified file cannot be opened, or it is located on UNC share."
One thing... I create the website with Location: HTTP. I don't even know anymore why I do this.. I think because I like to be able to pull up a browser and get to my app. Other than that I am doing nothing special. However, I get the above error when I hit F5 to run the app inside VS2005.
Is there someplace where a complete noob can find a thorough and simple covering of this? Again, I have read through some of the previous posts on this and I don't understand too many of them and it seems as if there are at least 13 causes of which I don't know which one I have. Help!
Thanks.
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Hello anyone / everyone,
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Hope this helps somebody, to took me long enough to track it down.
If anyone has a resolution to the ActiveX question I'd love to know the answer.
Thank you,
Uncle Davy
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Feb 3, 2005
Hi all,
The db that I took over is full of !@##$@, unnormalized tables, cursors, you name it and it has it :(.
There is this cursor that opens a temp table, fetches the key and then deletes from the production table using that key for every row in the temp table.
I want to change it to something like
delete from A
where exists (select 1
from B
where B.ID1 = A.ID1 and
B.ID2 = A.ID2)
Now, I'm thinking that this query would secuentially scan A and compare the key to what B has and that is a waste of time. Is there a way to do it the other way around ? Scan the rows on table B and then delete them from table A ?
I haven't really played with sql in some time, maybe the answer is trivial but I can't see it right now.
Thanks in advance
Luis Torres
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Jun 18, 2006
Hi There
I am trying to loop through databases to gather information.
However if i loop though datbases in a cursor, by using a select from sysdatabases, once i am in the cursor and SET @Sql = 'use ' + DBName and EXEC(SQL), the database context never changes from the one the cursor is executing in.
Is there a way to loop through database contexts and execute sql ?
Thanx
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Mar 3, 2008
Hi all,
I'm using VS2005 + SQL Compact 3.1 and Enterprise Library 3.1 May 2007
I can successfully create a db using pull method, when I try to push back data I got the following SQLCE error:
"Another user has opened the database with different instance-level initialization properties. [ 32 ]"
Before calling the push method I did
SqlCeDatabase eCE = Helper.GetDB() as SqlCeDatabase;
eCE.CloseSharedConnection();
SqlCeConnectionPool.CloseSharedConnections();
SqlCeRemoteDataAccess rda = new SqlCeRemoteDataAccess();
rda.InternetUrl = webSynchronizationUrl;
rda.InternetLogin = webuser;
rda.InternetPassword = webpass;
rda.LocalConnectionString = eCE.ConnectionStringWithoutCredentials;
but after the assignment the LocalConnectionString is different from ConnectionStringWithoutCredentials, there are much more ssce parameters.
What I don't understand is:
why I'm getting this error even after closing the connection ?
Since the error report [32] the ssce conflicting parameters shoud be AUTO_SHRINK_THRESHOLD, FLUSH_INTERVAL and MAX_DATABASE_SIZE
I tried to cut & paste the same values from LocalConnectionString into app.config connection string, at first It seemed to work, but now I got the same error.
Any help will be greatly appreciated
Thanks
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Hello,
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Regards,
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Is there are any option/query to read block of rows at one time and then query again for next page ?
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Please let me know..
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Thanks in Advance
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I am trying to add the hours between each time block stored in a database.
In this database a user enters the begin time and the end time. For example the course MATH0001 would start at 8am and end at 10am. Therefore the user would enter 0810 in the start field and 1000 in the end field. The course MATH0001 doesn't run the entire semester it may only run from 8th Jan - 15th March and the course is scheduled in a room called GR4. Now because a course can be scheduled modularly, one room could have several courses scheduled in this manner.
The problem: I need to find out how many hours GR4 is used but it contains the following courses
Code:
Schedule for room called GR4
Course StartDate EndDate BeginTime EndTime HoursPerClass
MATH0001 06-FEB-13 19-FEB-13 0810 1700 9
MATH0002 20-FEB-13 04-Mar-13 0810 1700 9
MATH0003 10-JAN-13 05-Feb-13 0810 1700 9
MATH0004 22-APR-13 17-May-13 0810 1700 9
MATH0005 08-MAR-13 21-APR-13 0810 1700 9
MATH0006 07-JAN-13 09-JAN-13 0910 1300 4
MATH0007 20-JAN-13 17-MAY-13 1710 2000 3
MATH0008 08-JAN-13 18-JAN-13 1710 2000 3
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Now, how to accomplish this but below is the code that i have thus far:
I forgot to mention that this code was to just test my 'final code' results and it outputs the table shown above. Anyway for testing purposes I have limited the search to the room GR4 and the day Tuesdays.
Code:
select DISTINCT ssrmeet_room_code,
ssrmeet_start_date,
ssrmeet_end_date,
ssrmeet_crn,
ssrmeet_begin_time,
ssrmeet_end_time,
(((CAST(M.SSRMEET_END_TIME AS INT))-(CAST(M.SSRMEET_BEGIN_TIME AS INT)))+10)/100 As HoursPerClass,
[code]....
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Mar 11, 2006
Hi,
I have tried to attatch a database ,created by SQL server Express within a C# application , in SQL server 2005 Enterprise edition, but the following error message appears:
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TITLE: Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio
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Attach database failed for Server 'MEDO'. (Microsoft.SqlServer.Smo)
For help, click: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink?ProdName=Microsoft SQL Server&ProdVer=9.00.1187.00&EvtSrc=Microsoft.SqlServer.Management.Smo.ExceptionTemplates.FailedOperationExceptionText&EvtID=Attach database+Server&LinkId=20476
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ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:
An exception occurred while executing a Transact-SQL statement or batch. (Microsoft.SqlServer.ConnectionInfo)
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The database 'E:X.MDF' cannot be opened because it is version 611. This server supports version 607 and earlier. A downgrade path is not supported.
Could not open new database 'E:X.MDF'. CREATE DATABASE is aborted. (Microsoft SQL Server, Error: 948)
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so , how can I solve this problem , I need to reed the data resides in the tables of 'X' database , how can I do it?? please help me.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Aya.
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Now that I've run the restore command on my tape backup and go to restart the SQL server service I receive:
Configuration block version 0 is not a valid version number. SQL Server is exiting. Restore the master database or reinstall.
I'm afraid I don't understand why this is happening. If the builds are the same, then shouldn't restoring the MASTER database have worked normally and I'd be able to restart the service now?
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In MSDN file I read about static cursor
STATIC
Defines a cursor that makes a temporary copy of the data to be used by the cursor. All requests to the cursor are answered from this temporary table in
tempdb; therefore, modifications made to base tables are not reflected in the data returned by fetches made to this cursor, and this cursor does not allow modifications
It say's that modifications is not allowed in the static cursor. I have a questions regarding that
Static Cursor
declare ll cursor global static
for select name, salary from ag
open ll
fetch from ll
while @@FETCH_STATUS=0
fetch from ll
update ag set salary=200 where 1=1
close ll
deallocate ll
In "AG" table, "SALARY" was 100 for all the entries. When I run the Cursor, it showed the salary value as "100" correctly.After the cursor was closed, I run the query select * from AG.But the result had updated to salary 200 as given in the cursor. file says modifications is not allowed in the static cursor.But I am able to update the data using static cursor.
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Jul 20, 2005
Hello,I have a test database with table A containing 10,000 rows and a tableB containing 100,000 rows. Rows in B are "children" of rows in A -each row in A has 10 related rows in B (ie. B has a foreign key to A).Using ODBC I am executing the following loop 10,000 times, expressedbelow in pseudo-code:"select * from A order by a_pk option (fast 1)""fetch from A result set""select * from B where where fk_to_a = 'xxx' order by b_pk option(fast 1)""fetch from B result set" repeated 10 timesIn the above psueod-code 'xxx' is the primary key of the current Arow. NOTE: it is not a mistake that we are repeatedly doing the Aquery and retrieving only the first row.When the queries use fast-forward-only cursors this takes about 2.5minutes. When the queries use dynamic cursors this takes about 1 hour.Does anyone know why the dynamic cursor is killing performance?Because of the SQL Server ODBC driver it is not possible to havenested/multiple fast-forward-only cursors, hence I need to exploreother alternatives.I can only assume that a different query plan is getting constructedfor the dynamic cursor case versus the fast forward only cursor, but Ihave no way of finding out what that query plan is.All help appreciated.Kevin
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Sep 20, 2007
I'm trying to implement a sp_MSforeachsp howvever when I call sp_MSforeach_worker
I get the following error can you please explain this problem to me so I can over come the issue.
Msg 16958, Level 16, State 3, Procedure sp_MSforeach_worker, Line 31
Could not complete cursor operation because the set options have changed since the cursor was declared.
Msg 16958, Level 16, State 3, Procedure sp_MSforeach_worker, Line 32
Could not complete cursor operation because the set options have changed since the cursor was declared.
Msg 16917, Level 16, State 1, Procedure sp_MSforeach_worker, Line 153
Cursor is not open.
here is the stored procedure:
Alter PROCEDURE [dbo].[sp_MSforeachsp]
@command1 nvarchar(2000)
, @replacechar nchar(1) = N'?'
, @command2 nvarchar(2000) = null
, @command3 nvarchar(2000) = null
, @whereand nvarchar(2000) = null
, @precommand nvarchar(2000) = null
, @postcommand nvarchar(2000) = null
AS
/* This procedure belongs in the "master" database so it is acessible to all databases */
/* This proc returns one or more rows for each stored procedure */
/* @precommand and @postcommand may be used to force a single result set via a temp table. */
declare @retval int
if (@precommand is not null) EXECUTE(@precommand)
/* Create the select */
EXECUTE(N'declare hCForEachTable cursor global for
SELECT QUOTENAME(SPECIFIC_SCHEMA)+''.''+QUOTENAME(ROUTINE_NAME)
FROM INFORMATION_SCHEMA.ROUTINES
WHERE ROUTINE_TYPE = ''PROCEDURE''
AND OBJECTPROPERTY(OBJECT_ID(QUOTENAME(SPECIFIC_SCHEMA)+''.''+QUOTENAME(ROUTINE_NAME)), ''IsMSShipped'') = 0 '
+ @whereand)
select @retval = @@error
if (@retval = 0)
EXECUTE @retval = [dbo].sp_MSforeach_worker @command1, @replacechar, @command2, @command3, 0
if (@retval = 0 and @postcommand is not null)
EXECUTE(@postcommand)
RETURN @retval
GO
example useage:
EXEC sp_MSforeachsp @command1="PRINT '?' GRANT EXECUTE ON ? TO [superuser]"
GO
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Nov 9, 2007
Hi everyone,
I have been trying to perform the following task:
Using the sys.databases & sys.sysindexes views to display all the columns with a clustered index for all tables and all databases in a given server. So the end result will have 3 columns:
Database name
Table name
Column name from that table with a clustered index
I have already created the following script which displays all the databases for a given server:
declare @DBname nvarchar(128)
declare testCursorForDB cursor
for
select name from sys.databases with (nolock)
where name not in ('master','tempdb','model','msdb')
order by name
open testCursorForDB
fetch next from testCursorForDB
into @DBname
while @@fetch_status = 0
begin
print @DBname
fetch next from testCursorForDB
into @DBname
end
close testCursorForDB
deallocate testCursorForDB
I also have created the following query which will display all the table and column names which have a clustered index for a given database:
select object_name(i.id) as TableName,
i.name as IndexName
from sys.sysindexes as i with (nolock)
where i.indid = '1'
However, what I need help/advice on is how do I combine these two together into one working script (either using nested cursors or a better way). In other words, how can I specify which database to use (ie. using the "use database_name") so that my query above will be applied to each database found within the cursor.
Any help is greatly appreciated
Thanks!
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Hi all,
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