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I am trying to lookup a dialog from conversation_endpoints, however if a dialog was created with the encryption setting to ON and thereis no master Key in the database then the record put in the conversation_endpoints is the same as one without encryption.

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create symmetric key sk_Test
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encryption by certificate test;

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Same error!

So then i decide, let's drop everything, the master key, the certificate and then symmetric key:

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drop certificate test
drop master key

Then recreate the master key:

create master key
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So what am I doing wrong here? In this scenario I would appear to have lost all access to decrypt the data in the database despite restoring from a backup which restored the symmetric key and certificate and i obviously know the password for the master key.

I also tried running the command

ALTER MASTER KEY ADD ENCRYPTION BY SERVICE MASTER KEY

again but this does not resolve the issue.



Thx.

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